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Old 09-18-2012, 09:55 PM   #11
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

"If there were a decent amount of time left then I could see trying something like this.

But there were FIVE SECONDS left. If the Bucs managed to cause a fumble and recover it, the time would have expired."


The clock stops on a turnover. 5 seconds is enough time to fall on the football. But you're missing another possibility. Suppose they fumble the exchange and it's rolling free, and the Bucs pick it up and run for a touchdown. You still honestly believe they should just quit? You guys are arguing against probability, but maybe you should talk to the 2002 Kentucky Wildcats who lost to LSU on a 74 yard touchdown pass with 2 seconds on the clock. You never know what might happen, and if the Bucs somehow come up with the ball, they at least get the chance at a miracle.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:24 PM   #12
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
"If there were a decent amount of time left then I could see trying something like this.

But there were FIVE SECONDS left. If the Bucs managed to cause a fumble and recover it, the time would have expired."


The clock stops on a turnover. 5 seconds is enough time to fall on the football. But you're missing another possibility. Suppose they fumble the exchange and it's rolling free, and the Bucs pick it up and run for a touchdown. You still honestly believe they should just quit? You guys are arguing against probability, but maybe you should talk to the 2002 Kentucky Wildcats who lost to LSU on a 74 yard touchdown pass with 2 seconds on the clock. You never know what might happen, and if the Bucs somehow come up with the ball, they at least get the chance at a miracle.
If the Bucs WERE able to cause a fumble with the 5 seconds left, by the time the ball was recovered, AND the officials got it sorted out which team had recovered it, the time would have expired.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:25 PM   #13
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PLAYER SAFETY huh? BS!!!!! NFL
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:36 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
There's no time to get to the quarterback on a kneel down. That's why you have to try to disrupt the center to try to cause a fumble. It would take absolutely perfect timing, but you have to try anything you can to win the game. It's funny how these guys maul each other the entire game, but on the last play, they think it's bad form to be physical. I hate the Bucs, but this isn't something I can hold against them.

... yeah, like there's time to "disrupt" the center-QB snap... good one.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:44 AM   #15
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

Probably the best thing to do is try to time the snap. Have your MLB run full speed, time the snap, jump over the center, and nail the QB right in the chest.

If your timing is off, its only a 5 yard off-sides penalty... line up and do it again, and again, and again. Its legal as long as you don't go helmet to helmet, right?
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Probably the best thing to do is try to time the snap. Have your MLB run full speed, time the snap, jump over the center, and nail the QB right in the chest.

If your timing is off, its only a 5 yard off-sides penalty... line up and do it again, and again, and again. Its legal as long as you don't go helmet to helmet, right?
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

To me this ranks up there with Atlanta running out of the tunnel at the start of the game and running off the field into the Lions' huddle and pregame warmups, jawing at them like a bunch of goons...it's just stupid. There is a reason a fumble on that play NEVER happens in the pros, because the QB and center are not moving full speed like in other snaps, where there may be legitimate problems with the exchange. Nice try but stupid. OK Tampa we get that you are tough guys. It's in the rules, good on you. Did it work out for you? BIG FAT NFL NO. Whether it's a touchdown or a kneel down, I say act like you've been there before. This coach thinks he is still at Rutgers.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:43 PM   #18
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

I really don't much agree with Jerry Jones, but he suggested doing away with kneeling the ball altogether, and I kinda don't hate that idea.

Now there are all kinds of reasons why it'll never happen, but it would create a lot more of those 'miracle' situations if, say in a close game, the team with the lead had the ball as the clock was winding down and HAD to run some sort of play that attempted to advance the ball. Then playing to the end of the game takes on a whole new meaning
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

I always wanted to see somebody try the last play where instead of taking a knee in the victory formation, they hand off to their most sure-handed back, who then turns and runs the other direction, circling around the field like a chicken with his head cut off, losing yardage and running away from the defense in "Football Follies" style play, just to run more time off the clock. Like you'd start out at midfield and end up with him zig zagging around and flopping down at the 5 yard line. It would play hell with the stats in fantasy, tho.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:58 PM   #20
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Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

Originally Posted by Shoe. View Post
I really don't much agree with Jerry Jones, but he suggested doing away with kneeling the ball altogether, and I kinda don't hate that idea.

Now there are all kinds of reasons why it'll never happen, but it would create a lot more of those 'miracle' situations if, say in a close game, the team with the lead had the ball as the clock was winding down and HAD to run some sort of play that attempted to advance the ball. Then playing to the end of the game takes on a whole new meaning
If more teams follow Tampa's lead, I could see them outlawing 'the kneel' ... I don't like agreeing with Jerry Jones either.
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