NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy

WhoDat!656 · 09-17-2012, 04:13 PM

At a time when the NFL is otherwise trying to reduce the number and severity of collisions on the field, Schiano’s approach to kneel-downs — and the NFL’s endorsement of that approach — could lead to some violent collisions on a play that has traditionally been treated by players on both teams as nothing more than a formality before shaking hands and heading to the locker room.

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Kosoma · 09-17-2012, 09:52 PM

im with schiano on this too. i think the kneel down is one of the most unsportsman like plays in all of sports. just because in the past teams lay down and die and accept defeat when teams kneel doesnt mean you should. i like that the bucs tried to catch the giants off guard and somehow get posession of the ball so they could win.
i find it hard to believe that coughlin is crying because a coach wants his team to play to final whistle. only two things to say to coughlin.
1 if you dont want a player hurt, play someone else
2 there is no crying in football

burningmetal · 09-17-2012, 10:25 PM

I agree, Kosoma. It pains me to defend any coach in our division, but I can't help this one. Since when has this been considered bad etiquette? I've always wondered why more teams don't try to disrupt the Center to see if they can cause a fumble.

I thought for sure Coughlin would be called a baby by everyone, but the media - including all of their former players who like to call themselves analysts - were all whining and saying "the game is over, just shake hands and accept it"... WHAT? The game is NOT over until the clock runs out, so why should anyone accept defeat? Is Herman Edwards gonna start saying "You play the game to lose!"? It's bad enough the league office has almost turned the game into touch football, and now players and coaches are going to cry about contact?

Soon the feminists will have their wish and be allowed to play football at every level, if this doesn't stop.

Mardigras9 · 09-18-2012, 09:40 AM

I agree, you never know. Games have been won on something you never expected. Manning could have dropped back and laid down.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-18-2012, 10:26 AM

The headline is misleading. The NFL didn't side with Schiano, the NFL simply stated no rule was broken.

As for the play itself, stupid of the Bucs. If they really wanted to get to the ball, they should've sent players to jump over the line, not dive at the knees-feet of the center and guards.

Danno · 09-18-2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

The headline is misleading. The NFL didn't side with Schiano, the NFL simply stated no rule was broken.

As for the play itself, stupid of the Bucs. If they really wanted to get to the ball, they should've sent players to jump over the line, not dive at the knees-feet of the center and guards.

Yep, and this type of play can come back on you too.

Its funny that Josh Freeman got his panties twisted when Harper tried to tackle him (legally) as he was going out of bounds.

burningmetal · 09-18-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

The headline is misleading. The NFL didn't side with Schiano, the NFL simply stated no rule was broken.

As for the play itself, stupid of the Bucs. If they really wanted to get to the ball, they should've sent players to jump over the line, not dive at the knees-feet of the center and guards.

There's no time to get to the quarterback on a kneel down. That's why you have to try to disrupt the center to try to cause a fumble. It would take absolutely perfect timing, but you have to try anything you can to win the game. It's funny how these guys maul each other the entire game, but on the last play, they think it's bad form to be physical. I hate the Bucs, but this isn't something I can hold against them.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-19-2012, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

There's no time to get to the quarterback on a kneel down. That's why you have to try to disrupt the center to try to cause a fumble. It would take absolutely perfect timing, but you have to try anything you can to win the game. It's funny how these guys maul each other the entire game, but on the last play, they think it's bad form to be physical. I hate the Bucs, but this isn't something I can hold against them.

... yeah, like there's time to "disrupt" the center-QB snap... good one.

burningmetal · 09-19-2012, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

... yeah, like there's time to "disrupt" the center-QB snap... good one.

You have to time your jump perfectly. It's not a high probability, but neither is a hail mary. I can always count on your classless sarcasm in here.

It's not a matter of WILL it work, but rather it COULD work. Giving up is unacceptable.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-19-2012, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You have to time your jump perfectly. It's not a high probability, but neither is a hail mary. I can always count on your classless sarcasm in here.

It's not a matter of WILL it work, but rather it COULD work. Giving up is unacceptable.

Classless sarcasm? Oh, I am so hurt.

Hey, you can avoid my "classless sarcasm" by not replying to my posts or typing dumb things when replying to my posts. Simple.

09-17-2012, 04:13 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy At a time when the NFL is otherwise trying to reduce the number and severity of collisions on the field, Schiano’s approach to kneel-downs — and the NFL’s endorsement of that approach — could lead to some violent collisions on a play that has traditionally been treated by players on both teams as nothing more than a formality before shaking hands and heading to the locker room. NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy \| ProFootballTalk

09-17-2012, 09:52 PM	#2
Kosoma Registered Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Pontotoc MS Posts: 35	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy im with schiano on this too. i think the kneel down is one of the most unsportsman like plays in all of sports. just because in the past teams lay down and die and accept defeat when teams kneel doesnt mean you should. i like that the bucs tried to catch the giants off guard and somehow get posession of the ball so they could win. i find it hard to believe that coughlin is crying because a coach wants his team to play to final whistle. only two things to say to coughlin. 1 if you dont want a player hurt, play someone else 2 there is no crying in football

09-17-2012, 10:25 PM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy I agree, Kosoma. It pains me to defend any coach in our division, but I can't help this one. Since when has this been considered bad etiquette? I've always wondered why more teams don't try to disrupt the Center to see if they can cause a fumble. I thought for sure Coughlin would be called a baby by everyone, but the media - including all of their former players who like to call themselves analysts - were all whining and saying "the game is over, just shake hands and accept it"... WHAT? The game is NOT over until the clock runs out, so why should anyone accept defeat? Is Herman Edwards gonna start saying "You play the game to lose!"? It's bad enough the league office has almost turned the game into touch football, and now players and coaches are going to cry about contact? Soon the feminists will have their wish and be allowed to play football at every level, if this doesn't stop.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

09-18-2012, 09:40 AM	#4
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy I agree, you never know. Games have been won on something you never expected. Manning could have dropped back and laid down.

09-18-2012, 10:26 AM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy The headline is misleading. The NFL didn't side with Schiano, the NFL simply stated no rule was broken. As for the play itself, stupid of the Bucs. If they really wanted to get to the ball, they should've sent players to jump over the line, not dive at the knees-feet of the center and guards.

09-18-2012, 11:10 AM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper The headline is misleading. The NFL didn't side with Schiano, the NFL simply stated no rule was broken. As for the play itself, stupid of the Bucs. If they really wanted to get to the ball, they should've sent players to jump over the line, not dive at the knees-feet of the center and guards. Yep, and this type of play can come back on you too. Its funny that Josh Freeman got his panties twisted when Harper tried to tackle him (legally) as he was going out of bounds.

09-18-2012, 04:28 PM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper The headline is misleading. The NFL didn't side with Schiano, the NFL simply stated no rule was broken. As for the play itself, stupid of the Bucs. If they really wanted to get to the ball, they should've sent players to jump over the line, not dive at the knees-feet of the center and guards. There's no time to get to the quarterback on a kneel down. That's why you have to try to disrupt the center to try to cause a fumble. It would take absolutely perfect timing, but you have to try anything you can to win the game. It's funny how these guys maul each other the entire game, but on the last play, they think it's bad form to be physical. I hate the Bucs, but this isn't something I can hold against them.

09-19-2012, 12:36 AM	#8
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy Originally Posted by burningmetal There's no time to get to the quarterback on a kneel down. That's why you have to try to disrupt the center to try to cause a fumble. It would take absolutely perfect timing, but you have to try anything you can to win the game. It's funny how these guys maul each other the entire game, but on the last play, they think it's bad form to be physical. I hate the Bucs, but this isn't something I can hold against them. ... yeah, like there's time to "disrupt" the center-QB snap... good one.

09-19-2012, 04:23 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ... yeah, like there's time to "disrupt" the center-QB snap... good one. You have to time your jump perfectly. It's not a high probability, but neither is a hail mary. I can always count on your classless sarcasm in here. It's not a matter of WILL it work, but rather it COULD work. Giving up is unacceptable.

09-19-2012, 06:36 PM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: NFL sides with Buccaneers on kneel-down controversy Originally Posted by burningmetal You have to time your jump perfectly. It's not a high probability, but neither is a hail mary. I can always count on your classless sarcasm in here. It's not a matter of WILL it work, but rather it COULD work. Giving up is unacceptable. Classless sarcasm? Oh, I am so hurt. Hey, you can avoid my "classless sarcasm" by not replying to my posts or typing dumb things when replying to my posts. Simple.

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