Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees

SloMotion · 06-11-2013, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I don't know what your talking about in the first part.

He's referencing a stat from the "does Stafford make Megatron better?" or "does Megatron make Stafford better?" debate in which Stafford supporters point out that of the approx. 5000yds passing-a-season Stafford has compiled the last two years, approx. only 1800yds per season went to Calvin Johnson. Stafford spread the remaining 3000yds (approx) to the rest of his receiving corps & running backs.

Not too shabby, IMO, no matter how you slice it.

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As for the observation that if the Lions played in the NFC South they probably would have made the playoffs, I agree. They lost every game in arguably the strongest Division in the NFL last season. Had they been able to play the Bucs & the Panthers twice a year instead of Green Bay, Chicago & a surprising Minnesota, things undoubtedly would have turned out different. I go as far as to suggest they may have even split with the Saints (without Payton) and whatever remaining team in the NFC South I may have forgot to mention.

TheOak · 06-11-2013, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

He's referencing a stat from the "does Stafford make Megatron better?" or "does Megatron make Stafford better?" debate in which Stafford supporters point out that of the approx. 5000yds passing-a-season Stafford has compiled the last two years, approx. only 1800yds per season went to Calvin Johnson. Stafford spread the remaining 3000yds (approx) to the rest of his receiving corps & running backs.

Not too shabby, IMO, no matter how you slice it. .

As for the observation that if the Lions played in the NFC South they probably would have made the playoffs, I agree. They lost every game in arguably the strongest Division in the NFL last season. Had they been able to play the Bucs & the Panthers twice a year instead of Green Bay, Chicago & a surprising Minnesota, things undoubtedly would have turned out different. I go as far as to suggest they may have even split with the Saints (without Payton) and whatever remaining team in the NFC South I may have forgot to mention.

Its not a 1-1 swap, Megatrons yards also come with the caveat that he draws the best d-backs and double teams. That changes the passing dynamic completely. If you take away Megatron then defenses play the Lions differently.

However "if" you just do the 1-1 swap then Stafford has 3003 yards (25th in the NFL), a 79.8 passer rating (22nd in the NFL), 20 TDs (19th in NFL), 3rd highest INTs in the NFL, 18th in Comp%.... are we still calling him a top tier QB?

With those numbers is anyone talking about Stafford at all?

If your going to do the "with out Megatron" argument then you have to look at everything else with out Megatron

BTW 5 of those TDs belong to Megatron also which Puts Stafford with 15 TDs and 17 INTs.

SloMotion · 06-11-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

.... are we still calling him a top tier QB?

Where did anyone call him a top tier QB? Relax, nobody said he was better than Drew,

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TheOak · 06-11-2013, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Where did anyone call him a top tier QB? Relax, nobody said he was better than Drew, .

Will be elite, Will be premiere, Will be premiere.

SloMotion · 06-12-2013, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Will be elite, Will be premiere, Will be premiere.

"Will be"is just speculation that if Stafford continues on the same course as the past few seasons, he may be able to gain admittance into that exclusive club of top tier QBs.

"Will be" is not the same as Atlanta-fan coming on here and regaling us with tales of the "other Matt's" exploits while trying to cram him into the top tier, down our throats.

I think you have me confused with another fan base, Oak-man,

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TheOak · 06-12-2013, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

"Will be"is just speculation that if Stafford continues on the same course as the past few seasons, he may be able to gain admittance into that exclusive club of top tier QBs.

"Will be" is not the same as Atlanta-fan coming on here and regaling us with tales of the "other Matt's" exploits while trying to cram him into the top tier, down our throats.

I think you have me confused with another fan base, Oak-man, .

No Sir, I've got nothing but bromance for you, I extend that courtesy to no other.

06-11-2013, 05:47 AM	#1
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees Originally Posted by TheOak I don't know what your talking about in the first part. He's referencing a stat from the "does Stafford make Megatron better?" or "does Megatron make Stafford better?" debate in which Stafford supporters point out that of the approx. 5000yds passing-a-season Stafford has compiled the last two years, approx. only 1800yds per season went to Calvin Johnson. Stafford spread the remaining 3000yds (approx) to the rest of his receiving corps & running backs. Not too shabby, IMO, no matter how you slice it. . As for the observation that if the Lions played in the NFC South they probably would have made the playoffs, I agree. They lost every game in arguably the strongest Division in the NFL last season. Had they been able to play the Bucs & the Panthers twice a year instead of Green Bay, Chicago & a surprising Minnesota, things undoubtedly would have turned out different. I go as far as to suggest they may have even split with the Saints (without Payton) and whatever remaining team in the NFC South I may have forgot to mention.

06-11-2013, 06:45 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees Originally Posted by SloMotion He's referencing a stat from the "does Stafford make Megatron better?" or "does Megatron make Stafford better?" debate in which Stafford supporters point out that of the approx. 5000yds passing-a-season Stafford has compiled the last two years, approx. only 1800yds per season went to Calvin Johnson. Stafford spread the remaining 3000yds (approx) to the rest of his receiving corps & running backs. Not too shabby, IMO, no matter how you slice it. . As for the observation that if the Lions played in the NFC South they probably would have made the playoffs, I agree. They lost every game in arguably the strongest Division in the NFL last season. Had they been able to play the Bucs & the Panthers twice a year instead of Green Bay, Chicago & a surprising Minnesota, things undoubtedly would have turned out different. I go as far as to suggest they may have even split with the Saints (without Payton) and whatever remaining team in the NFC South I may have forgot to mention. Its not a 1-1 swap, Megatrons yards also come with the caveat that he draws the best d-backs and double teams. That changes the passing dynamic completely. If you take away Megatron then defenses play the Lions differently. However "if" you just do the 1-1 swap then Stafford has 3003 yards (25th in the NFL), a 79.8 passer rating (22nd in the NFL), 20 TDs (19th in NFL), 3rd highest INTs in the NFL, 18th in Comp%.... are we still calling him a top tier QB? With those numbers is anyone talking about Stafford at all? If your going to do the "with out Megatron" argument then you have to look at everything else with out Megatron BTW 5 of those TDs belong to Megatron also which Puts Stafford with 15 TDs and 17 INTs.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

06-11-2013, 02:08 PM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees Originally Posted by TheOak .... are we still calling him a top tier QB? Where did anyone call him a top tier QB? Relax, nobody said he was better than Drew, .

06-11-2013, 02:30 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees Originally Posted by SloMotion Where did anyone call him a top tier QB? Relax, nobody said he was better than Drew, . Will be elite, Will be premiere, Will be premiere.

06-12-2013, 06:34 AM	#5
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees Originally Posted by TheOak Will be elite, Will be premiere, Will be premiere. "Will be"is just speculation that if Stafford continues on the same course as the past few seasons, he may be able to gain admittance into that exclusive club of top tier QBs. "Will be" is not the same as Atlanta-fan coming on here and regaling us with tales of the "other Matt's" exploits while trying to cram him into the top tier, down our throats. I think you have me confused with another fan base, Oak-man, .

06-12-2013, 06:59 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Reggie Bush compares Matthew Stafford to Drew Brees Originally Posted by SloMotion "Will be"is just speculation that if Stafford continues on the same course as the past few seasons, he may be able to gain admittance into that exclusive club of top tier QBs. "Will be" is not the same as Atlanta-fan coming on here and regaling us with tales of the "other Matt's" exploits while trying to cram him into the top tier, down our throats. I think you have me confused with another fan base, Oak-man, . No Sir, I've got nothing but bromance for you, I extend that courtesy to no other. SloMotion likes this.

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