McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract

SloMotion · 07-13-2013, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

WOW, 1-23, now that speaks volumes, that is surprising.

Yeah, but the Lions as a whole have a history of struggling to beat teams with better than .500 records, so I don't put that all on Mattford.

He's put them in position to win and they've blown it plenty of times. He's also engineered enough 4Qtr comebacks/game-winning drives in the only two complete seasons he's had to be respectable.

By no means am I handing him the keys-to-the-kingdom as we oft see the misguided fanbase of another NFC South franchise that trots out "the other Matt" every Sunday, but I'm telling you, Stafford is a 'gamer' and that boy is worth every penny of that contract,

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halloween 65 · 07-13-2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Yeah, but the Lions as a whole have a history of struggling to beat teams with better than .500 records, so I don't put that all on Mattford.

He's put them in position to win and they've blown it plenty of times. He's also engineered enough 4Qtr comebacks/game-winning drives in the only two complete seasons he's had to be respectable.

By no means am I handing him the keys-to-the-kingdom as we oft see the misguided fanbase of another NFC South franchise that trots out "the other Matt" every Sunday, but I'm telling you, Stafford is a 'gamer' and that boy is worth every penny of that contract, .

I also like Stafford. I see a lot of game in him, barring injury I think he will be one of the best to play qb. in a long time. It's funny how people hype up the RG3's type players, but I don't think they will have the longevity because of their style of play like Stafford will.

spkb25 · 07-13-2013, 08:25 AM

God it is like listening to a cry baby. I remember when Rush made those comments and Donovan came back and said I thought we were past that. As he got older and a little worse he started bringing up (funny it equated to what Rush said just the opposite direction) how he never got a shot from the media because he's black.

He is either bitter or trying to get his name out there because he is irrelevant. Either way just go away Donovan. Your time is gone.

QBREES9 · 07-13-2013, 09:34 AM

McNabb hasn’t earned a microphone. Please take it from him. LOL

MaggieMayTB · 07-13-2013, 02:03 PM

McNabb needs to review tape and with a heavy emphasis on "Black Like Me".

Then start watching "Kelly and Michael"...

Final assignment, learn from Michael Irving's serious preparation for his induction into the HOF.

He should learn his skin color doesn't dictate how people feel about him...
He should learn Michael S is fun to watch because he is a fun guy...try to seriously count all the negative laced comments of Michael.
(lesson - positive attitude and positive interactions)
He should learn from Michael I - you are never to old to change and work on self improvement.

If this all fails, call Tony D for counseling.

Chad (Ocho) learned it from a judge...

My opinion

rezburna · 07-13-2013, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Did you read my post? He didn't get all that money, he got some taken away through extension.

His contract had bigger cap hits than Brees.

Nah, I didn't. I was more so responding to McNabbs comments. You saying he doesn't deserve the money?

TheOak · 07-13-2013, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Nah, I didn't. I was more so responding to McNabbs comments. You saying he doesn't deserve the money?

The money taken from him?

rezburna · 07-13-2013, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The money taken from him?

Hold on Oak, I'm lost right now. Lol.

I think Stafford deserved the contract and McNabb just sounds like a hater.

Are you saying they're taking money away from Stafford?

onebyone · 07-13-2013, 08:17 PM

To be fair, if anyone would know about not earning their contracts, it would be McNabb.

SloMotion · 07-14-2013, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The money taken from him?

I'm not really a numbers guy and focus more on the fact that they've locked up their franchise QB for five more years, but here goes:

Original contract = 6yr, $72mil ($41.7mil guaranteed).

This contract raised some eyebrows when it was signed back in 2009. With cap hits of $20.8mil for 2013 and $19.8 for 2014, it was really a 4yr contract as the Lions were relying on restructuring the contract or dumping Stafford based on his peformance. There was never any intention of taking those cap hits in 2013/2014.

New contract/extension = 3yr ext. worth $53mil ($41.7mil guaranteed), signing bonus of $27.5mil for a new five yr deal worth $76.5mil.

- Stafford got $41.7mil guaranteed in his first contract, which I will assume he has received, and has hypothetically gave up the remaining $30.3mil in order to restructure.

- He received a $27.5mil signing bonus, another $41.7mil guaranteed and a new five year deal worth $4.5 million more than his original 6yr deal.

I don't see it, Stafford either came out basically even or a cool couple million ahead ... and besides, what's a couple million among friends, eh?

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07-13-2013, 06:44 AM	#21
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract Originally Posted by Mardigras9 WOW, 1-23, now that speaks volumes, that is surprising. Yeah, but the Lions as a whole have a history of struggling to beat teams with better than .500 records, so I don't put that all on Mattford. He's put them in position to win and they've blown it plenty of times. He's also engineered enough 4Qtr comebacks/game-winning drives in the only two complete seasons he's had to be respectable. By no means am I handing him the keys-to-the-kingdom as we oft see the misguided fanbase of another NFC South franchise that trots out "the other Matt" every Sunday, but I'm telling you, Stafford is a 'gamer' and that boy is worth every penny of that contract, . halloween 65 likes this.

07-13-2013, 08:18 AM	#22
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract Originally Posted by SloMotion Yeah, but the Lions as a whole have a history of struggling to beat teams with better than .500 records, so I don't put that all on Mattford. He's put them in position to win and they've blown it plenty of times. He's also engineered enough 4Qtr comebacks/game-winning drives in the only two complete seasons he's had to be respectable. By no means am I handing him the keys-to-the-kingdom as we oft see the misguided fanbase of another NFC South franchise that trots out "the other Matt" every Sunday, but I'm telling you, Stafford is a 'gamer' and that boy is worth every penny of that contract, . I also like Stafford. I see a lot of game in him, barring injury I think he will be one of the best to play qb. in a long time. It's funny how people hype up the RG3's type players, but I don't think they will have the longevity because of their style of play like Stafford will.

07-13-2013, 08:25 AM	#23
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract God it is like listening to a cry baby. I remember when Rush made those comments and Donovan came back and said I thought we were past that. As he got older and a little worse he started bringing up (funny it equated to what Rush said just the opposite direction) how he never got a shot from the media because he's black. He is either bitter or trying to get his name out there because he is irrelevant. Either way just go away Donovan. Your time is gone.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract McNabb hasn’t earned a microphone. Please take it from him. LOL

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MaggieMayTB Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Franklin, Wisconsin (knee deep in melted cheese sauce) Posts: 615 Blog Entries: 1	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract McNabb needs to review tape and with a heavy emphasis on "Black Like Me". Then start watching "Kelly and Michael"... Final assignment, learn from Michael Irving's serious preparation for his induction into the HOF. He should learn his skin color doesn't dictate how people feel about him... He should learn Michael S is fun to watch because he is a fun guy...try to seriously count all the negative laced comments of Michael. (lesson - positive attitude and positive interactions) He should learn from Michael I - you are never to old to change and work on self improvement. If this all fails, call Tony D for counseling. Chad (Ocho) learned it from a judge... My opinion

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract Originally Posted by TheOak Did you read my post? He didn't get all that money, he got some taken away through extension. His contract had bigger cap hits than Brees. Nah, I didn't. I was more so responding to McNabbs comments. You saying he doesn't deserve the money?

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract Originally Posted by rezburna Nah, I didn't. I was more so responding to McNabbs comments. You saying he doesn't deserve the money? The money taken from him?

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract Originally Posted by TheOak The money taken from him? Hold on Oak, I'm lost right now. Lol. I think Stafford deserved the contract and McNabb just sounds like a hater. Are you saying they're taking money away from Stafford?

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onebyone 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 431	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract To be fair, if anyone would know about not earning their contracts, it would be McNabb. SloMotion likes this.
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07-14-2013, 07:13 AM	#30
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: McNabb says Stafford hasn’t earned his contract Originally Posted by TheOak The money taken from him? I'm not really a numbers guy and focus more on the fact that they've locked up their franchise QB for five more years, but here goes: Original contract = 6yr, $72mil ($41.7mil guaranteed). This contract raised some eyebrows when it was signed back in 2009. With cap hits of $20.8mil for 2013 and $19.8 for 2014, it was really a 4yr contract as the Lions were relying on restructuring the contract or dumping Stafford based on his peformance. There was never any intention of taking those cap hits in 2013/2014. New contract/extension = 3yr ext. worth $53mil ($41.7mil guaranteed), signing bonus of $27.5mil for a new five yr deal worth $76.5mil. - Stafford got $41.7mil guaranteed in his first contract, which I will assume he has received, and has hypothetically gave up the remaining $30.3mil in order to restructure. - He received a $27.5mil signing bonus, another $41.7mil guaranteed and a new five year deal worth $4.5 million more than his original 6yr deal. I don't see it, Stafford either came out basically even or a cool couple million ahead ... and besides, what's a couple million among friends, eh? .

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