They Just Won't Let It Go

saintfan · 03-31-2014, 08:42 PM

The NFL and ESPN are just going to keep trying to shove an average matt ryan into an elite hole.

I'm sorry. As a casual observer, having watched football since the mid/late 70s, having seen some truly great QBs in that time, Matt Ryan is not now, has never been, nor will he ever be elite. I'm so sick of this I could puke. I'd rather them get back on the Brett Favre kick. Seriously.

Bill Polian: Atlanta Falcons QB Matt Ryan a Super Bowl win from elite - ESPN

|Mitch| · 03-31-2014, 08:54 PM

The $100 million man’s status became a hot topic of conversation this offseason after retiring teammate Tony Gonzalez said Ryan wasn’t quite in the elite category of quarterbacks along with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees.

The difference between Ryan and the other truly "elite" quarterbacks is that Ryan relies on his supporting cast and the others make those around them better.

Just look at Drew; he gets it done no matter what... He doesn't need 1st round receivers, O-Line, or backs to be productive. Albeit it helps a lot...

saintfan · 03-31-2014, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

The difference between Ryan and the other truly "elite" quarterbacks is that Ryan relies on his supporting cast and the others make those around them better.

Just look at Drew; he gets it done no matter what... He doesn't need 1st round receivers, O-Line, or backs to be productive. Albeit it helps a lot...

That's the thing. "Elite", to me, means this is a guy who makes others better, just as you say. Ryan is not in the category, or even close. Heck, he's not even as close as Jake Delhomme.

foreverfan · 04-08-2014, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Just look at Drew; he gets it done no matter what... He doesn't need 1st round receivers, O-Line, or backs to be productive. Albeit it helps a lot...

The draft is going to change this.

|Mitch| · 04-08-2014, 09:27 AM

Saints Must Be Worried - Talk About the Falcons - Falcons Life Forums <---

If this happens who's laughing now Loomis and like all of us sir you have been Dimitroffed.

TheOak · 04-08-2014, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Saints Must Be Worried - Talk About the Falcons - Falcons Life Forums <---

Its not worry LOL! Its called kicking them in the teeth when they are down.

Its interesting that they feel we didn't "need" any of those players..

dam1953 · 03-31-2014, 09:28 PM

Riddle me this. How many ELITE QB's suffer through a 4 and 12 season?

Utah_Saint · 03-31-2014, 10:30 PM

Elite is a relative term. Matt Ryan has consistently put up numbers that rank him between the 6th and 12th best QB in the league, so if your definition of elite is top third of the league then yes,

Matt Ryan is an elite noodle arm quarterback who folds in high pressure games.

K Major · 04-06-2014, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Matt Ryan is an elite noodle arm quarterback who folds in high pressure games.

Damn, another Tony Romo?

Jamessr · 04-04-2014, 05:08 PM

I don't think he is elite, however I don't think he is horrible. I look at the coaching staff...
He could do alot better on a different team.

03-31-2014, 08:42 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	They Just Won't Let It Go The NFL and ESPN are just going to keep trying to shove an average matt ryan into an elite hole. I'm sorry. As a casual observer, having watched football since the mid/late 70s, having seen some truly great QBs in that time, Matt Ryan is not now, has never been, nor will he ever be elite. I'm so sick of this I could puke. I'd rather them get back on the Brett Favre kick. Seriously. Bill Polian: Atlanta Falcons QB Matt Ryan a Super Bowl win from elite - ESPN

03-31-2014, 08:54 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go The $100 million man’s status became a hot topic of conversation this offseason after retiring teammate Tony Gonzalez said Ryan wasn’t quite in the elite category of quarterbacks along with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. The difference between Ryan and the other truly "elite" quarterbacks is that Ryan relies on his supporting cast and the others make those around them better. Just look at Drew; he gets it done no matter what... He doesn't need 1st round receivers, O-Line, or backs to be productive. Albeit it helps a lot...

03-31-2014, 09:16 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| The difference between Ryan and the other truly "elite" quarterbacks is that Ryan relies on his supporting cast and the others make those around them better. Just look at Drew; he gets it done no matter what... He doesn't need 1st round receivers, O-Line, or backs to be productive. Albeit it helps a lot... That's the thing. "Elite", to me, means this is a guy who makes others better, just as you say. Ryan is not in the category, or even close. Heck, he's not even as close as Jake Delhomme.

04-08-2014, 09:21 AM	#4
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Just look at Drew; he gets it done no matter what... He doesn't need 1st round receivers, O-Line, or backs to be productive. Albeit it helps a lot... The draft is going to change this.

04-08-2014, 09:27 AM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go Saints Must Be Worried - Talk About the Falcons - Falcons Life Forums <--- If this happens who's laughing now Loomis and like all of us sir you have been Dimitroffed.

04-08-2014, 10:04 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Saints Must Be Worried - Talk About the Falcons - Falcons Life Forums <--- Its not worry LOL! Its called kicking them in the teeth when they are down. Its interesting that they feel we didn't "need" any of those players..

03-31-2014, 09:28 PM	#7
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go Riddle me this. How many ELITE QB's suffer through a 4 and 12 season?

03-31-2014, 10:30 PM	#8
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go Elite is a relative term. Matt Ryan has consistently put up numbers that rank him between the 6th and 12th best QB in the league, so if your definition of elite is top third of the league then yes, Matt Ryan is an elite noodle arm quarterback who folds in high pressure games. frydaddy likes this.

04-06-2014, 01:58 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Matt Ryan is an elite noodle arm quarterback who folds in high pressure games. Damn, another Tony Romo?

04-04-2014, 05:08 PM	#10
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: They Just Won't Let It Go I don't think he is elite, however I don't think he is horrible. I look at the coaching staff... He could do alot better on a different team. stickman likes this.

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