St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures

arsaint · 12-01-2014, 04:58 PM

"The true story came out from the grand jury testimony," Barkley said, adding that he was made aware of "key forensic evidence, and several black witnesses that supported Officer Darren Wilson’s story..." He continued, "I can’t believe anything I hear on television anymore. And, that’s why I don’t like talking about race issues with the media anymore, because they (the media) love this stuff, and lead people to jump to conclusions. The media shouldn’t do that. They never do that when black people kill each other. "

Why Charles Barkley supports the Ferguson grand jury decision

GeauxForMore · 12-01-2014, 06:25 PM

Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet.

jeanpierre · 12-01-2014, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet.

Amen.

It's amazing who gets martyred and who's ignored...

I watch these babies, BABIES, two years and under shot in drive by shootings while these punks are out proving their manhood...

And the media publishes pictures of thugs when they were fifteen years old and are now eighteen year olds, full grown men; stirring up BS for ratings...

People need to wise up and learn we're all being played by the Beltway Politicians and the Media Mogul Sycophants for their own collective profit and gain, not for the betterment of a good, just society where men respect themselves and one another equally...

SmashMouth · 12-01-2014, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet.

Amen, Brother. What's happening in Chitown evidently is not newsworthy either.

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skymike · 12-01-2014, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet.

Outstanding.

These 5 ***stix promoted a lie that somehow a giant thug is some kind of martyr, and that rioters and looters are entitled, not to mention planted a seed of doubt in every law officer, who must make a decision in seconds, which only makes YOUR job more dangerous. The NFL is complicit in this ignorant indictment of police officers, no matter your race, by not managing this situation.

For those who cry, "free speech," do we have to educate you again, bless your heart? Yes, you may say anything you like and not be imprisoned. The NFL, however is not a government. It is a business. It has the right to tell you what you can and cannot say, if you want a paycheck. So, sure, go and shout in the street that the grand jury has a big grand master plan, and is out to get you just because youre this color or that color, which is ridiculous. But dont expect your employer to pay you no matter what you do.

We all can say anything or do anything at our job. one time.
This is not helping promote harmony, much less advance "civil rights."

Barry from MS · 12-01-2014, 08:08 PM

If these 5 Rams players want to show this on the stage of an NFL game, let'em. I'd just like it highlighted that these players have the right to make a choice in this country without being silenced and imprisoned by this government. And I like it when protesters have a logical solution to fix a problem for the obvious problem for which they are protesting.

These same 5 players are saying they disagree with the fact-based decision of a 12-member grand jury's decision, which is a fundamental principal of our government.

Alright...so what would be a logical solution to fix or replace this system of justice, St. Louis Rams Five?

We'll wait for your solution...

On a final note for these 5, I do find it sad that there is so much silence from these same 5 NFL players concerning the violent murders of young men from within their own neighborhoods & cities by other young men from their own neighborhoods & cities within the last couple of weeks and months.

Mr.Riaton · 12-01-2014, 10:38 PM

These guys were out of line and need to lose their jobs!! I am offended by their actions! Something needs to be done!! I'm so offended!! Hell,it works for the minority groups I figure I'd give it a shot. BTW, for those who don't understand what the big deal is about this or bring up the 'freedom of speach' argument clearly doesn't have a f***ing clue. I get so irritated with the brainwashed,ignorant people in this society. But who knows, maybe I'm out of touch with reality....maybe somebody who disagrees with the Furguson trial can chime in with their views on why there was such an injustice....maybe I'm missing something....

Barry from MS · 12-02-2014, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

...I get so irritated with the brainwashed,ignorant people in this society. But who knows, maybe I'm out of touch with reality....maybe somebody who disagrees with the Furguson trial can chime in with their views on why there was such an injustice....maybe I'm missing something....

You're not out-of-touch with reality, bro. Give you a little background on the "St. Louis 5" who took it upon themselves to side with the fact-less and dividing force of blinded bias.

I present "The Model Citizens Brigade", the St. Louis Rams 5 Style:

Meet the Five Rams Who Struck "Hands Up Don't Shoot" Poses on Sunday: Arrests, Substance Abuse, Suspensions and More... -

By the way, this was the point I was laboring at in my post earlier. You know, protesters out protesting but have no clue as to how to fix nor do they care how to fix the problem they are protesting. Or in these 5 idiots' case, protesting because of blind or ignorant bias and they can "keep it real" yet do nothing to bring about awareness to the real problems within their own neighborhoods in Birmingham, AL, Jackson, MS, etc...

NOLA54 · 12-02-2014, 10:59 AM

I applaud these 5 players.

NOLA54 · 12-02-2014, 11:20 AM

"These same 5 players are saying they disagree with the fact-based decision of a 12-member grand jury's decision, which is a fundamental principal of our government."

By law the prosecutor (who represent the people) is to present just enough evidence to show cause to indict. This prosecutor's minions presented the case as if they were defending Darren Wilson. They allowed him to testify, which is highly unusual. Wilson was not cross examined while other eyewitnesses were. In the paperwork presented to the Grand Jury Wilson was listed as the victim & Michael Brown as the suspect. This is totally opposite of what they are to do. Why wasn't Wilson's gun tested for palm or finger prints based on his testimony of Brown grabbing his gun? Too many questions about the entire process.

Here in Colorado when JonBenet Ramsey was murdered in her home the jury decided to indict her parents but the prosecutor declined to follow up.

12-01-2014, 04:58 PM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,732	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures "The true story came out from the grand jury testimony," Barkley said, adding that he was made aware of "key forensic evidence, and several black witnesses that supported Officer Darren Wilson’s story..." He continued, "I can’t believe anything I hear on television anymore. And, that’s why I don’t like talking about race issues with the media anymore, because they (the media) love this stuff, and lead people to jump to conclusions. The media shouldn’t do that. They never do that when black people kill each other. " Why Charles Barkley supports the Ferguson grand jury decision skymike and OldMaid like this.

12-01-2014, 06:25 PM	#2
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 590	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet. Tobias-Reiper, Rsanders24, jeanpierre and 6 others like this.

12-01-2014, 06:36 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet. Amen. It's amazing who gets martyred and who's ignored... I watch these babies, BABIES, two years and under shot in drive by shootings while these punks are out proving their manhood... And the media publishes pictures of thugs when they were fifteen years old and are now eighteen year olds, full grown men; stirring up BS for ratings... People need to wise up and learn we're all being played by the Beltway Politicians and the Media Mogul Sycophants for their own collective profit and gain, not for the betterment of a good, just society where men respect themselves and one another equally... SloMotion likes this.
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12-01-2014, 07:08 PM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,557 Blog Entries: 29	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet. Amen, Brother. What's happening in Chitown evidently is not newsworthy either. \| Illustrating Chicago Values Crazy name for a website, but the facts speak for themselves. OldMaid likes this.

12-01-2014, 07:12 PM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Listen I'm black and I'm a Sheriff Deputy. This issue with Mike Brown unfortunately turned into a stupid race issue. I can tell you this when George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, I wanted Zimmerman to be charged with manslaughter and put under the jail. Trayvon was judge by the color of his skin and stereotypes. Unfortunately it didn't go the way I wanted, but I got past it. With this Mike Brown crap is all nonsense. This gentle giant the media has portrayed him as commited robbery and when he was confronted he attacked a officer. Mike Brown was not judge by his skin tone, but the content of his character. Unfortunately he lost his life over his decision that day. I'm just tired of seeing the black community up in arms fighting tooth and nails over a criminal, but won't lift a finger to help black on black crime. I been to 6 murders in 3 months all over gangs. Youngest victim was 16. Haven't seen a protest yet. Outstanding. These 5 ***stix promoted a lie that somehow a giant thug is some kind of martyr, and that rioters and looters are entitled, not to mention planted a seed of doubt in every law officer, who must make a decision in seconds, which only makes YOUR job more dangerous. The NFL is complicit in this ignorant indictment of police officers, no matter your race, by not managing this situation. For those who cry, "free speech," do we have to educate you again, bless your heart? Yes, you may say anything you like and not be imprisoned. The NFL, however is not a government. It is a business. It has the right to tell you what you can and cannot say, if you want a paycheck. So, sure, go and shout in the street that the grand jury has a big grand master plan, and is out to get you just because youre this color or that color, which is ridiculous. But dont expect your employer to pay you no matter what you do. We all can say anything or do anything at our job. one time. This is not helping promote harmony, much less advance "civil rights." OldMaid likes this.

12-01-2014, 08:08 PM	#6
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures If these 5 Rams players want to show this on the stage of an NFL game, let'em. I'd just like it highlighted that these players have the right to make a choice in this country without being silenced and imprisoned by this government. And I like it when protesters have a logical solution to fix a problem for the obvious problem for which they are protesting. These same 5 players are saying they disagree with the fact-based decision of a 12-member grand jury's decision, which is a fundamental principal of our government. Alright...so what would be a logical solution to fix or replace this system of justice, St. Louis Rams Five? We'll wait for your solution... On a final note for these 5, I do find it sad that there is so much silence from these same 5 NFL players concerning the violent murders of young men from within their own neighborhoods & cities by other young men from their own neighborhoods & cities within the last couple of weeks and months.
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12-01-2014, 10:38 PM	#7
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures These guys were out of line and need to lose their jobs!! I am offended by their actions! Something needs to be done!! I'm so offended!! Hell,it works for the minority groups I figure I'd give it a shot. BTW, for those who don't understand what the big deal is about this or bring up the 'freedom of speach' argument clearly doesn't have a f***ing clue. I get so irritated with the brainwashed,ignorant people in this society. But who knows, maybe I'm out of touch with reality....maybe somebody who disagrees with the Furguson trial can chime in with their views on why there was such an injustice....maybe I'm missing something.... OldMaid likes this.

12-02-2014, 10:49 AM	#8
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton ...I get so irritated with the brainwashed,ignorant people in this society. But who knows, maybe I'm out of touch with reality....maybe somebody who disagrees with the Furguson trial can chime in with their views on why there was such an injustice....maybe I'm missing something.... You're not out-of-touch with reality, bro. Give you a little background on the "St. Louis 5" who took it upon themselves to side with the fact-less and dividing force of blinded bias. I present "The Model Citizens Brigade", the St. Louis Rams 5 Style: Meet the Five Rams Who Struck "Hands Up Don't Shoot" Poses on Sunday: Arrests, Substance Abuse, Suspensions and More... - By the way, this was the point I was laboring at in my post earlier. You know, protesters out protesting but have no clue as to how to fix nor do they care how to fix the problem they are protesting. Or in these 5 idiots' case, protesting because of blind or ignorant bias and they can "keep it real" yet do nothing to bring about awareness to the real problems within their own neighborhoods in Birmingham, AL, Jackson, MS, etc... SloMotion likes this.
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12-02-2014, 10:59 AM	#9
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures I applaud these 5 players.

12-02-2014, 11:20 AM	#10
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: St. Louis police group calls on NFL to punish Rams for Ferguson Gestures "These same 5 players are saying they disagree with the fact-based decision of a 12-member grand jury's decision, which is a fundamental principal of our government." By law the prosecutor (who represent the people) is to present just enough evidence to show cause to indict. This prosecutor's minions presented the case as if they were defending Darren Wilson. They allowed him to testify, which is highly unusual. Wilson was not cross examined while other eyewitnesses were. In the paperwork presented to the Grand Jury Wilson was listed as the victim & Michael Brown as the suspect. This is totally opposite of what they are to do. Why wasn't Wilson's gun tested for palm or finger prints based on his testimony of Brown grabbing his gun? Too many questions about the entire process. Here in Colorado when JonBenet Ramsey was murdered in her home the jury decided to indict her parents but the prosecutor declined to follow up.

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