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SloMotion 01-11-2015 03:40 PM

Role reversal: Late call costs Cowboys
 
Wow ... whoda'thunk the ground couldn't cause a fumble but it could cause an incomplete pass, :roflmao: ... what goes around comes around, there is justice in the NFL after all, :D.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Edholm, Shutdown Corner, Yahoo Sports

Cowboys denied chance to win when Dez Bryant catch overturned


Football karma is funny stuff.

The Dallas Cowboys were widely viewed as the beneficiaries of a favorable call (or two) in their wild-card win over the Detroit Lions last week, as ridiculous rumors of Cowboys favoritism ruled the sports water-cooler chatter.

Well, hard to argue that now.

Mr. Fourth Down, Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett, make a risky call with his team down 26-21 with 4:42 left. He decided to go for it on fourth-and-2 from the Green Bay 32, and it appeared a brilliant risk when Dez Bryant made a circus catch at the 1-yard line, skying over cornerback Sam Shields.

But Packers head coach Mike McCarthy challenged the spot after earlier missing on a challenge, arguing that Julius Peppers tipped a pass on what was called a Packers pass interference call. That one failed. In fact, every challenge this season made by McCarthy has failed — all five of them, including the earlier one.

After review, the referees ruled that Bryant didn't catch the ball. Despite what the world saw as a brilliant football play and the fact that he took three steps after catching it. It was the old, cruel Calvin Johnson Rule, failing to "complete the process" of the catch, being played out in what had been a classic battle of two great teams prior to that.

The ball moved after hitting the ground when Bryant hit the chewed-up Lambeau Field turf, and that was enough for the Mike Perieras of the world to say: no catch. The replay officials agreed.

So much for a great game. It was marred by a technicality.

A score would have resulted in a one-, two- or three-point Cowboys lead and the ball in Rodgers' hands with a chance to win it. Instead, he played a great game of keepaway after the controversial call. A bit anticlimactic, no?

Heck, even the Lions — who were victimized by two calls against them in the Cowboys game — felt bad for the Cowboys on that one, reminiscing on the Johnson would-be game-winning TD that was called back famously years ago against the Chicago Bears.


Bryant was incensed. The Cowboys were stunned. Their defense was unable to stop the Packers thereafter, with Aaron Rodgers making a few clutch throws and his receivers making some great catches, and Green Bay moved onto the NFC title game.

But once more we exit a playoff game with controversy. Our eyes, it seemed, deceived us. What looked like a catch, thanks to the voluminous NFL rulebook, was ruled not so. Brilliance — gutsy, spine-tingling gambling that worked — was denied.

Seems a bit wrong in such a great game.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...211859169.html


SmashMouth 01-11-2015 04:06 PM

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... and the Romo Choke legend continues.

WhoDat!656 01-11-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 637112)
... and the Romo Choke legend continues.

How is that play a Romo choke? Bryant is the one that didn't hold onto the ball!!

B_Dub_Saint 01-11-2015 04:49 PM

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I hate the Cowboys, but as a fan of the NFL, the officiating has been horrific.

dizzle88 01-11-2015 04:55 PM

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One of the UK comentators said what I agreed with

If he was a yard closer and the ball broke the plain of the goal line but still came out when he hit the ground, it would have been ruled a TD and he still technically has not completed the process of the catch by NFL rules

Obviously I don't care about the cowboys, I just think it was a very good catch by Bryant and in my opinion the rule should be changed

VegasSaint9 01-11-2015 04:57 PM

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Don't like the Cowboys. Didn't like last weeks call either but they got robbed in this one. How come it always seems Green Bay gets crappy calls in their favor?

neugey 01-11-2015 05:05 PM

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They need to change the possession rules for receiver. It's bogus that the ground can't cause a fumble but it can cause an incompletion. And on the defensive side they need to chill out on all the Pass Interference calls and let the guys play.

I told my dad the unspoken rule in the NFL right now is that if you are the home team, especially in the playoffs, you can expect all the close-calls and replays to go your way. I think the zebras are instructed by the league to call in the home team's favor. It's so obvious.

WillSaints81 01-11-2015 05:13 PM

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To be honest, I don't think it would have mattered because GB was marching down the field on the final possession and could have scored if they wanted.

spkb25 01-11-2015 05:28 PM

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i thought it was the right call

K Major 01-11-2015 05:39 PM

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The rule sucks but it was the correct call.
So glad I don't have to watch the Cows another week.

ScottF 01-11-2015 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 637124)
The rule sucks but it was the correct call.
So glad I don't have to watch the Cows another week.

.
I don't really care, but I do think Dallas would have zero chance vs Sea
GB will give them a game

SmashMouth 01-11-2015 07:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 637113)
How is that play a Romo choke? Bryant is the one that didn't hold onto the ball!!

http://blackandgold.com/nfl/70568-ro...es-closed.html

He throws with his eyes closed ... :rolleyes:

OldMaid 01-11-2015 07:21 PM

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According to Officiating VP Dean Blandino, it was not a catch.

I saw his interview on the NFL Network.

My thing is, it should never be ruled a catch.

I am going to look out for that next season in every catch like this.

dizzle88 01-11-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 637136)
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I don't really care, but I do think Dallas would have zero chance vs Sea
GB will give them a game

Dallas beat Seattle earlier in the season.

K Major 01-11-2015 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 637139)
Dallas beat Seattle earlier in the season.

And pretty convincingly.. especially in the trenches. That O line is probably the best I have seen this year. Solid across the board.

SmashMouth 01-11-2015 08:55 PM

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Jerry Jones: I do think Dez Bryant made the catch | ProFootballTalk

nola_swammi 01-11-2015 11:34 PM

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I betcha Detroit believe in karma,, if the refs non calls didn't effect the Detroit game I probably will have sympathy for the cowgirls. I would've never suspect them to overturn that call after the early PI and flagrant fouls going in Dallas favor

RailBoss 01-12-2015 03:58 AM

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And we beat Green Bay so who knows what happens on any given day!!

SloMotion 01-12-2015 04:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 637115)
I hate the Cowboys, but as a fan of the NFL, the officiating has been horrific.

Agree, and if it was a team/player I liked, I'd probably be more upset, :lol:. I'm beginning to think they somehow reinstated the Replacement Refs from a few seasons ago, :rolleyes: ... maybe it's not that bad, but come on!. There were a few other calls where I kinda' went, "huh?".

Kudos to Mike McCarthy & his staff for the challenge if they did so in the knowledge that Bryant did not make a 'football move' after the catch, yada, yada, yada ... that's a pretty technical assessment to make in real time during the heat of battle. My guess is they just threw the flag out there & hoped for the best, :neutral:.

Couple good points I've heard since last week's fiasco and in this article are: 1) NFL refs are part-time, maybe they should consider full-time refs, 2) "All-Star" officiating crews for the post season aren't getting the job done., 3) the NFL rulebook is too voluminous for refs to properly officiate a game or for the players/coaches/fans to understand. :neutral:.

JMO.



lee909 01-12-2015 06:46 AM

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All i have to add is


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Couldn't happen to a nicer team

SloMotion 01-12-2015 06:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 637163)
All i have to add is


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Couldn't happen to a nicer team

Yeah, that too, :rofl:.

SmashMouth 01-12-2015 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 637156)
Agree, and if it was a team/player I liked, I'd probably be more upset, :lol:. I'm beginning to think they somehow reinstated the Replacement Refs from a few seasons ago, :rolleyes: ... maybe it's not that bad, but come on!. There were a few other calls where I kinda' went, "huh?".

Kudos to Mike McCarthy & his staff for the challenge if they did so in the knowledge that Bryant did not make a 'football move' after the catch, yada, yada, yada ... that's a pretty technical assessment to make in real time during the heat of battle. My guess is they just threw the flag out there & hoped for the best, :neutral:.

Couple good points I've heard since last week's fiasco and in this article are: 1) NFL refs are part-time, maybe they should consider full-time refs, 2) "All-Star" officiating crews for the post season aren't getting the job done., 3) the NFL rulebook is too voluminous for refs to properly officiate a game or for the players/coaches/fans to understand. :neutral:.

JMO.



For being part time, they sure get paid full time $. Many of those refs are lawyers in their regular day jobs.

FWIW

SloMotion 01-12-2015 01:40 PM

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SloMotion 01-12-2015 01:41 PM

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SloMotion 01-12-2015 01:42 PM

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SloMotion 01-12-2015 01:44 PM

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SloMotion 01-12-2015 01:45 PM

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SloMotion 01-12-2015 01:45 PM

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SloMotion 01-12-2015 01:47 PM

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QBREES9 01-12-2015 04:34 PM

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the ball hit the ground. Came loose, and the player recoverd his own fumble. TD Dallas. But what do I know.

Vrillon82 01-12-2015 06:40 PM

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This year almost seems like its been scripted to a tee and the officiating is just aiding that process. Its all for Seattles own good, they dont want Detroit or Dallas going into Seattle because they could potentially beat them, so lets throw Green Bay there, a team Seattle would have better shot of winning against. Much like the crap that goes on in Denver, Manning throwing another post season game like in the SB to a team the NFL and that organization made sure got the 1st pick to grab Luck to succeed Manning. Other side you got the Patriots which has been aided by the NFL and Goodell the past 14 years.

They really turned it up this year.

Beastmode 01-12-2015 07:52 PM

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The NFL is a reflection of their leadership. Sure, the Pats were within the rules but it was absolutely dirty, no way around it. Who effin does that?

The NFL is slowly digging its own grave on the way they call games. They stick by the rules on some things yet turn a blind eye to other blatant infractions. They have the best cameras in professional sports but refuse to review certain plays, especially in the playoffs.

Halo 01-12-2015 08:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 637235)
The NFL is a reflection of their leadership. Sure, the Pats were within the rules but it was absolutely dirty, no way around it. Who effin does that?

The NFL is slowly digging its own grave on the way they call games. They stick by the rules on some things yet turn a blind eye to other blatant infractions. They have the best cameras in professional sports but refuse to review certain plays, especially in the playoffs.

They turned a blind eye on the biggest cheating scandal in league history, SpyGate, and handed down a $500,000 fine. Does not compute.

SloMotion 01-13-2015 05:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 637235)
The NFL is a reflection of their leadership. Sure, the Pats were within the rules but it was absolutely dirty, no way around it. Who effin does that?

The NFL is slowly digging its own grave on the way they call games. They stick by the rules on some things yet turn a blind eye to other blatant infractions. They have the best cameras in professional sports but refuse to review certain plays, especially in the playoffs.

Baylor ran that play vs Michigan State in the Cotton Bowl ... IDK if it's dirty in as much as it's a college-level/trick play? Kinda' like how Matt Stafford (DET) signaled in a game earlier in the season that he was gonna' spike the ball to stop the clock & then plunged it in for a TD ... perfectly within the regulations, but was that a dirty play? Or just deceptive? Ironically, that was against the Cowgurlz also, :lol:.
https://dn3pm25xmtlyu.cloudfront.net...VGSUJFNRFZBBTA

lee909 01-13-2015 05:37 AM

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I don't see the Stafford play the same myself.
The team shouldn't switch off and although the Stafford play.

While the NE play is legitimate, its definitely underhand and will be stopped in the post season.
I'd laugh it the Colts did it to them next week

SloMotion 01-13-2015 06:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 637250)
I don't see the Stafford play the same myself.
The team shouldn't switch off and although the Stafford play.

While the NE play is legitimate, its definitely underhand and will be stopped in the post season.
I'd laugh it the Colts did it to them next week

That would be funny, :lol: ... but like the fake-punt, you can run those type plays only so often, :lol:. It is really bush-league stuff, but if it's allowed who's to say Belichek isn't necessarily a genius for utilizing a portion of the rulebook no one else had the foresight or the gonads to? It's the ol' razzle-dazzle play, :).

papz 01-13-2015 08:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 637247)
Baylor ran that play vs Michigan State in the Cotton Bowl ... IDK if it's dirty in as much as it's a college-level/trick play? Kinda' like how Matt Stafford (DET) signaled in a game earlier in the season that he was gonna' spike the ball to stop the clock & then plunged it in for a TD ... perfectly within the regulations, but was that a dirty play? Or just deceptive? Ironically, that was against the Cowgurlz also, :lol:.
https://dn3pm25xmtlyu.cloudfront.net...VGSUJFNRFZBBTA

Deceptive and smart. I still remember Dan Marino doing it a few times during his career.




Regarding the call - by rule, it wasn't a catch. Unfortunate for the Cowboys, but it was the right call. It was one hell of a play though.

saintfan 01-13-2015 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 637115)
I hate the Cowboys, but as a fan of the NFL, the officiating has been horrific.

Has it really been the refs, or is it the rules?

saintfan 01-13-2015 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 637117)
Don't like the Cowboys. Didn't like last weeks call either but they got robbed in this one. How come it always seems Green Bay gets crappy calls in their favor?

They dont. Remember the Seattle game with the replacement refs?


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