Patrick Willis could be traded/released

neugey · 01-24-2015, 01:29 PM

Of course it sounds great, but having Lofton and Willis in the middle means nothing if our OLB are garbage.

Crusader · 01-27-2015, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Of course it sounds great, but having Lofton and Willis in the middle means nothing if our OLB are garbage.

Of course it would. It would solidify one part of the defence giving us greater flexibility in dealing with other problems.

I don't see how we could afford him but I would absolutly love to see him in Black and Gold. One of my favorite players in the leauge.

|Mitch| · 01-27-2015, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Of course it sounds great, but having Lofton and Willis in the middle means nothing if our OLB are garbage.

This makes no sense; why upgrade any position because another is weak?

With that train of thought, why worry about upgrading at all? One of our draft picks could be better than an existing player, might as well forfeit our picks too

alleycat_126 · 01-27-2015, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I would trade Graham for him, straight up!!

Then your a crazy fool..... for two reasons....

Patrick Willis is better than any LB we have.... true
Patrick Willis is better than Jimmy Graham..... false

When you think about the niners defense since Willis has been on the decline I can get to three San Fransisco defenders who I fear more before I even mention him.... Both Smiths..... Justin <<< the real meat of the defense. Aldon<<< freak of nature but nothing without Justin Navarro Bowman<<< superstar LB.... and Willis <<< about to be on the wrong side of 30

Plus what makes a down year for a TE in our offense..... Lets see...

- battled shoulder all season
- no Oline help for routes that require time....
- no running back out of the backfield who can catch the ball in space to take the pressure off of Jimmy having to make every catch.... this is where he was most effective
- no Big Time Wr Threat.... Cooks is not Antonio Brown just yet.....

I wouldn't be so quick to trade Jimmy Graham unless you could get the same value in return....

halloween 65 · 01-27-2015, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Then your a crazy fool..... for two reasons....

Patrick Willis is better than any LB we have.... true
Patrick Willis is better than Jimmy Graham..... false

When you think about the niners defense since Willis has been on the decline I can get to three San Fransisco defenders who I fear more before I even mention him.... Both Smiths..... Justin <<< the real meat of the defense. Aldon<<< freak of nature but nothing without Justin Navarro Bowman<<< superstar LB.... and Willis <<< about to be on the wrong side of 30

Plus what makes a down year for a TE in our offense..... Lets see...

- battled shoulder all season
- no Oline help for routes that require time....
- no running back out of the backfield who can catch the ball in space to take the pressure off of Jimmy having to make every catch.... this is where he was most effective
- no Big Time Wr Threat.... Cooks is not Antonio Brown just yet.....

I wouldn't be so quick to trade Jimmy Graham unless you could get the same value in return....

Graham aint' the best TE in the league, period. He is replaceable with the O that we run. He gets hurt every year missing multiple games a liablity in the run game and is as soft as pudding, if trading him for Willis makes me a fool for one if not the best ILB in the buisness I'm good with it. That love affair for Graham is just that a love affair looking at that over-priced ,ball dropping, game missing, non-agressive 265 pound jello pudding TE thru rose colored glasses and I'm the fool? o.k.

K Major · 01-27-2015, 08:57 AM

I recently read that Ahmad Brooks aka the Brees killer is unhappy in 49er land and his bags are packed...would be ecstatic to have either Willis OR Brooks. Instant upgrades at the LB position.

spkb25 · 01-27-2015, 09:26 AM

Willis' numbers have been on the decline. This season, before getting hurt, he was on pace for his lowest totals since entering the league. He is getting long in the tooth, and although he is probably better than what we have, we will overpay for old talent. Just my opin

st thomas · 01-27-2015, 10:07 AM

and how are we gonna pay for his contract , with deblooms

halloween 65 · 01-27-2015, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

and how are we gonna pay for his contract , with deblooms

We want. The debloom comment is funny!!

rezburna · 01-27-2015, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Then your a crazy fool..... for two reasons....

Patrick Willis is better than any LB we have.... true
Patrick Willis is better than Jimmy Graham..... false

When you think about the niners defense since Willis has been on the decline I can get to three San Fransisco defenders who I fear more before I even mention him.... Both Smiths..... Justin <<< the real meat of the defense. Aldon<<< freak of nature but nothing without Justin Navarro Bowman<<< superstar LB.... and Willis <<< about to be on the wrong side of 30

Plus what makes a down year for a TE in our offense..... Lets see...

- battled shoulder all season
- no Oline help for routes that require time....
- no running back out of the backfield who can catch the ball in space to take the pressure off of Jimmy having to make every catch.... this is where he was most effective
- no Big Time Wr Threat.... Cooks is not Antonio Brown just yet.....

I wouldn't be so quick to trade Jimmy Graham unless you could get the same value in return....

😞 Graham better then Willis?

Nah.

01-24-2015, 01:29 PM	#11
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Of course it sounds great, but having Lofton and Willis in the middle means nothing if our OLB are garbage.

01-27-2015, 01:42 AM	#12
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Originally Posted by neugey Of course it sounds great, but having Lofton and Willis in the middle means nothing if our OLB are garbage. Of course it would. It would solidify one part of the defence giving us greater flexibility in dealing with other problems. I don't see how we could afford him but I would absolutly love to see him in Black and Gold. One of my favorite players in the leauge.

01-27-2015, 03:37 AM	#13
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Originally Posted by neugey Of course it sounds great, but having Lofton and Willis in the middle means nothing if our OLB are garbage. This makes no sense; why upgrade any position because another is weak? With that train of thought, why worry about upgrading at all? One of our draft picks could be better than an existing player, might as well forfeit our picks too

01-27-2015, 05:29 AM	#14
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Originally Posted by halloween 65 I would trade Graham for him, straight up!! Then your a crazy fool..... for two reasons.... Patrick Willis is better than any LB we have.... true Patrick Willis is better than Jimmy Graham..... false When you think about the niners defense since Willis has been on the decline I can get to three San Fransisco defenders who I fear more before I even mention him.... Both Smiths..... Justin <<< the real meat of the defense. Aldon<<< freak of nature but nothing without Justin Navarro Bowman<<< superstar LB.... and Willis <<< about to be on the wrong side of 30 Plus what makes a down year for a TE in our offense..... Lets see... - battled shoulder all season - no Oline help for routes that require time.... - no running back out of the backfield who can catch the ball in space to take the pressure off of Jimmy having to make every catch.... this is where he was most effective - no Big Time Wr Threat.... Cooks is not Antonio Brown just yet..... I wouldn't be so quick to trade Jimmy Graham unless you could get the same value in return....
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01-27-2015, 07:49 AM	#15
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Then your a crazy fool..... for two reasons.... Patrick Willis is better than any LB we have.... true Patrick Willis is better than Jimmy Graham..... false When you think about the niners defense since Willis has been on the decline I can get to three San Fransisco defenders who I fear more before I even mention him.... Both Smiths..... Justin <<< the real meat of the defense. Aldon<<< freak of nature but nothing without Justin Navarro Bowman<<< superstar LB.... and Willis <<< about to be on the wrong side of 30 Plus what makes a down year for a TE in our offense..... Lets see... - battled shoulder all season - no Oline help for routes that require time.... - no running back out of the backfield who can catch the ball in space to take the pressure off of Jimmy having to make every catch.... this is where he was most effective - no Big Time Wr Threat.... Cooks is not Antonio Brown just yet..... I wouldn't be so quick to trade Jimmy Graham unless you could get the same value in return.... Graham aint' the best TE in the league, period. He is replaceable with the O that we run. He gets hurt every year missing multiple games a liablity in the run game and is as soft as pudding, if trading him for Willis makes me a fool for one if not the best ILB in the buisness I'm good with it. That love affair for Graham is just that a love affair looking at that over-priced ,ball dropping, game missing, non-agressive 265 pound jello pudding TE thru rose colored glasses and I'm the fool? o.k. rezburna likes this.

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01-27-2015, 08:57 AM	#16
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released I recently read that Ahmad Brooks aka the Brees killer is unhappy in 49er land and his bags are packed...would be ecstatic to have either Willis OR Brooks. Instant upgrades at the LB position. brees84 likes this.

01-27-2015, 09:26 AM	#17
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Willis' numbers have been on the decline. This season, before getting hurt, he was on pace for his lowest totals since entering the league. He is getting long in the tooth, and although he is probably better than what we have, we will overpay for old talent. Just my opin

01-27-2015, 10:07 AM	#18
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01-27-2015, 10:45 AM	#19
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Originally Posted by st thomas and how are we gonna pay for his contract , with deblooms We want. The debloom comment is funny!!

01-27-2015, 01:58 PM	#20
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Patrick Willis could be traded/released Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Then your a crazy fool..... for two reasons.... Patrick Willis is better than any LB we have.... true Patrick Willis is better than Jimmy Graham..... false When you think about the niners defense since Willis has been on the decline I can get to three San Fransisco defenders who I fear more before I even mention him.... Both Smiths..... Justin <<< the real meat of the defense. Aldon<<< freak of nature but nothing without Justin Navarro Bowman<<< superstar LB.... and Willis <<< about to be on the wrong side of 30 Plus what makes a down year for a TE in our offense..... Lets see... - battled shoulder all season - no Oline help for routes that require time.... - no running back out of the backfield who can catch the ball in space to take the pressure off of Jimmy having to make every catch.... this is where he was most effective - no Big Time Wr Threat.... Cooks is not Antonio Brown just yet..... I wouldn't be so quick to trade Jimmy Graham unless you could get the same value in return.... 😞 Graham better then Willis? Nah.

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