Sharper gets another

Tobias-Reiper · 03-21-2015, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by pinch

Don't think I agree with this. Granted, she must have known there was potential for some hanky-panky,

Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously.

but that doesn't make it OK to drug and rape her.

No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room?

RailBoss · 03-21-2015, 04:23 AM

Must have read the Bill Cosby "how to" book!

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously.

No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room?

Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss. Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned.

And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-21-2015, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss.

Seriously? Come on, man.
"Hey, we just met club hopping in Las Vegas. Wanna go to my hotel room and play some Xbox?"
"Sure, Sheldon".

Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned.

And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate.

As I said before, I do not know the chain of events, only what is described in the article, and I am not absolving or condemning anyone... but it is not a stretch to assume they were all severely impaired before the talk of "going back to my hotel room" was brought up. It isn't a stretch either to think they could have passed out when they hit the bed or even just black out, and Sharper did not notice or care in his own drunkenness.

In any case, it does bother me that these women, it seems, agreed to go to a man's hotel room, again, after a night of club hopping in Las Vegas.

st thomas · 03-21-2015, 09:57 AM

Hes going to be one broke s.o.b. No mater how it lands.

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Seriously? Come on, man.
"Hey, we just met club hopping in Las Vegas. Wanna go to my hotel room and play some Xbox?"
"Sure, Sheldon".

As I said before, I do not know the chain of events, only what is described in the article, and I am not absolving or condemning anyone... but it is not a stretch to assume they were all severely impaired before the talk of "going back to my hotel room" was brought up. It isn't a stretch either to think they could have passed out when they hit the bed or even just black out, and Sharper did not notice or care in his own drunkenness.

In any case, it does bother me that these women, it seems, agreed to go to a man's hotel room, again, after a night of club hopping in Las Vegas.

Seriously, come on what? I said there is the possibility they were going back to his room to engage in some form of sexual activity,, but by no means does it mean they intended to have full on sex. Sorry I don't think women should be drugged and raped because they decide to go back to a mans room. What if he invited women back and said hey I have to change before we head back out, come back to my room and I will fix you a drink while I shower, and then he drugged their drink and subsequently raped them?

Of course it is, because not all of these events took place in hotels, number 1. It is an absolute stretch to assume that all of these woman on separate occasions blacked out and he just didn't notice. Again, a woman going back to your hotel room by no means indicates she is trying to have sex, maybe she was like yeah I will go have some drinks mess around bit, give him a BJ, etc. Lastly, even if they were open to the possibility of sex upon going back to his room that doesn't mean you can drug them and rape them.

The fact that he is pleading guilty, uh yeah, it absolutely means he did it. If you really believe all of these frigan woman throughout all of the states are just crying rape for monetary gain you're nuts. Absolutely nuts.

Lastly, like I said in the first paragraph, what if they had plans to go to the club and he said come back to my room I need to shower real quick. Fixes her a drink and drugs her.

Dude is guilty, plain and simple. If he wasn't, this would be happening to every single athlete with multiple accusations throughout all these different states.

He is pleading guilty, and according to reports will be admitting to drugging them.

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Hes going to be one broke s.o.b. No mater how it lands.

Broke.. what, dude is going to jail, for a long time. I suspect it will be in the 15-20 year range

Beastmode · 03-21-2015, 02:11 PM

There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.

He is pleading guilty, and per source that will include him admitting to drugging them. Come on man...

The only rape a man can understand is by another man. You want to know what a woman feels like being raped, imagine having a man F- you in your ass and you can do nothing about it. It is a violation few men can ever understand.

Kobe Bryant I never thought did it, and I did not want to believe Sharp did, but I can't ignore the evidence and almost certainty he did it. Apparently there are others involved and possibility he is going to start naming others...

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.

And I love you boss, but seriously man, this isn't a black man in the south getting placed in jail for rape based of someone's eye witness testimony. Kobe Bryant I still 100% believe was a lie by a mentally deranged woman looking for publicity and money, but this does not have that feel. Not by a long shot. And, I am always skeptical when women start the rape accusation, but this case he appears guilty, and now he is about to plead guilty for all of the rapes.

Anyway, I am not going to argue about it, we are each going to have our opinions, and this time I just can't ignore the near certainty he did everything he is being accused of, and probably some we will never know about

03-21-2015, 12:02 AM	#11
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by pinch Don't think I agree with this. Granted, she must have known there was potential for some hanky-panky, Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously. but that doesn't make it OK to drug and rape her. No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room?
	'Cause the simple man pays the thrills, the bills and the pills that kill

03-21-2015, 04:23 AM	#12
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Sharper gets another Must have read the Bill Cosby "how to" book! spkb25 likes this.

03-21-2015, 08:06 AM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously. No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room? Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss. Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned. And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate.
	Your team stinks

03-21-2015, 09:20 AM	#14
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by spkb25 Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss. Seriously? Come on, man. "Hey, we just met club hopping in Las Vegas. Wanna go to my hotel room and play some Xbox?" "Sure, Sheldon". Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned. And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate. As I said before, I do not know the chain of events, only what is described in the article, and I am not absolving or condemning anyone... but it is not a stretch to assume they were all severely impaired before the talk of "going back to my hotel room" was brought up. It isn't a stretch either to think they could have passed out when they hit the bed or even just black out, and Sharper did not notice or care in his own drunkenness. In any case, it does bother me that these women, it seems, agreed to go to a man's hotel room, again, after a night of club hopping in Las Vegas.
	'Cause the simple man pays the thrills, the bills and the pills that kill

03-21-2015, 09:57 AM	#15
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03-21-2015, 01:48 PM	#16
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Seriously? Come on, man. "Hey, we just met club hopping in Las Vegas. Wanna go to my hotel room and play some Xbox?" "Sure, Sheldon". As I said before, I do not know the chain of events, only what is described in the article, and I am not absolving or condemning anyone... but it is not a stretch to assume they were all severely impaired before the talk of "going back to my hotel room" was brought up. It isn't a stretch either to think they could have passed out when they hit the bed or even just black out, and Sharper did not notice or care in his own drunkenness. In any case, it does bother me that these women, it seems, agreed to go to a man's hotel room, again, after a night of club hopping in Las Vegas. Seriously, come on what? I said there is the possibility they were going back to his room to engage in some form of sexual activity,, but by no means does it mean they intended to have full on sex. Sorry I don't think women should be drugged and raped because they decide to go back to a mans room. What if he invited women back and said hey I have to change before we head back out, come back to my room and I will fix you a drink while I shower, and then he drugged their drink and subsequently raped them? Of course it is, because not all of these events took place in hotels, number 1. It is an absolute stretch to assume that all of these woman on separate occasions blacked out and he just didn't notice. Again, a woman going back to your hotel room by no means indicates she is trying to have sex, maybe she was like yeah I will go have some drinks mess around bit, give him a BJ, etc. Lastly, even if they were open to the possibility of sex upon going back to his room that doesn't mean you can drug them and rape them. The fact that he is pleading guilty, uh yeah, it absolutely means he did it. If you really believe all of these frigan woman throughout all of the states are just crying rape for monetary gain you're nuts. Absolutely nuts. Lastly, like I said in the first paragraph, what if they had plans to go to the club and he said come back to my room I need to shower real quick. Fixes her a drink and drugs her. Dude is guilty, plain and simple. If he wasn't, this would be happening to every single athlete with multiple accusations throughout all these different states. He is pleading guilty, and according to reports will be admitting to drugging them.
	Your team stinks

03-21-2015, 01:50 PM	#17
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by st thomas Hes going to be one broke s.o.b. No mater how it lands. Broke.. what, dude is going to jail, for a long time. I suspect it will be in the 15-20 year range

03-21-2015, 02:11 PM	#18
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Sharper gets another There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.
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03-21-2015, 02:40 PM	#19
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by Beastmode There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape. He is pleading guilty, and per source that will include him admitting to drugging them. Come on man... The only rape a man can understand is by another man. You want to know what a woman feels like being raped, imagine having a man F- you in your ass and you can do nothing about it. It is a violation few men can ever understand. Kobe Bryant I never thought did it, and I did not want to believe Sharp did, but I can't ignore the evidence and almost certainty he did it. Apparently there are others involved and possibility he is going to start naming others...
	Your team stinks

03-21-2015, 02:46 PM	#20
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by Beastmode There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape. And I love you boss, but seriously man, this isn't a black man in the south getting placed in jail for rape based of someone's eye witness testimony. Kobe Bryant I still 100% believe was a lie by a mentally deranged woman looking for publicity and money, but this does not have that feel. Not by a long shot. And, I am always skeptical when women start the rape accusation, but this case he appears guilty, and now he is about to plead guilty for all of the rapes. Anyway, I am not going to argue about it, we are each going to have our opinions, and this time I just can't ignore the near certainty he did everything he is being accused of, and probably some we will never know about
	Your team stinks

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