Sharper gets another

Tobias-Reiper · 03-20-2015, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by pinch

Don't think I agree with this. Granted, she must have known there was potential for some hanky-panky,

Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously.

but that doesn't make it OK to drug and rape her.

No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room?

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously.

No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room?

Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss. Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned.

And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-21-2015, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss.

Seriously? Come on, man.
"Hey, we just met club hopping in Las Vegas. Wanna go to my hotel room and play some Xbox?"
"Sure, Sheldon".

Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned.

And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate.

As I said before, I do not know the chain of events, only what is described in the article, and I am not absolving or condemning anyone... but it is not a stretch to assume they were all severely impaired before the talk of "going back to my hotel room" was brought up. It isn't a stretch either to think they could have passed out when they hit the bed or even just black out, and Sharper did not notice or care in his own drunkenness.

In any case, it does bother me that these women, it seems, agreed to go to a man's hotel room, again, after a night of club hopping in Las Vegas.

RailBoss · 03-21-2015, 03:23 AM

Must have read the Bill Cosby "how to" book!

st thomas · 03-21-2015, 08:57 AM

Hes going to be one broke s.o.b. No mater how it lands.

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Hes going to be one broke s.o.b. No mater how it lands.

Broke.. what, dude is going to jail, for a long time. I suspect it will be in the 15-20 year range

Beastmode · 03-21-2015, 01:11 PM

There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.

He is pleading guilty, and per source that will include him admitting to drugging them. Come on man...

The only rape a man can understand is by another man. You want to know what a woman feels like being raped, imagine having a man F- you in your ass and you can do nothing about it. It is a violation few men can ever understand.

Kobe Bryant I never thought did it, and I did not want to believe Sharp did, but I can't ignore the evidence and almost certainty he did it. Apparently there are others involved and possibility he is going to start naming others...

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.

And I love you boss, but seriously man, this isn't a black man in the south getting placed in jail for rape based of someone's eye witness testimony. Kobe Bryant I still 100% believe was a lie by a mentally deranged woman looking for publicity and money, but this does not have that feel. Not by a long shot. And, I am always skeptical when women start the rape accusation, but this case he appears guilty, and now he is about to plead guilty for all of the rapes.

Anyway, I am not going to argue about it, we are each going to have our opinions, and this time I just can't ignore the near certainty he did everything he is being accused of, and probably some we will never know about

Mardigras9 · 03-23-2015, 09:26 AM

If she goes to his hotel room willingly, if the idea of any type of sexual interaction is expected or implied, or if drugs and alcohol are involved, I hear what you are saying. But if the girl changes her mind, sobers up before, or any other avenue to reach the decision of NO, then it is NO. There is no gray area in this arguement. If he is drugging these girls without there knowledge and engaging in activities against their will, then he is breaking the law.

03-20-2015, 11:02 PM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by pinch Don't think I agree with this. Granted, she must have known there was potential for some hanky-panky, Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously. but that doesn't make it OK to drug and rape her. No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room?
	'Cause the simple man pays the thrills, the bills and the pills that kill

03-21-2015, 07:06 AM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Dude, come on. What's in a hotel room? What's the central piece of a hotel room? A bed. Seriously. No one is saying that. What I am saying, I do not know the specifics, or what exactly was the chain of events that lead to whatever is that happened... what I am saying, it bothers me that these women seem to have gone to Sharper's hotel room voluntarily. Why would any woman accept to go to a stranger's hotel room, after a night of club hopping, in freaking Las Vegas, and not expect sex? What man would invite a woman, who he just met while club hopping in freaking Las Vegas, to his hotel room, and not expect sex once she accepts and voluntarily enters the room? Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss. Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned. And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate.
	Your team stinks

03-21-2015, 08:20 AM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by spkb25 Well many hotel rooms have more than just a bed, especially the one he was probably staying in. I am sure it was a suite, and maybe she was figuring on some head or a 69, doesn't mean she expected full on sex, boss. Seriously? Come on, man. "Hey, we just met club hopping in Las Vegas. Wanna go to my hotel room and play some Xbox?" "Sure, Sheldon". Look, there are women who lie and make rape allegations, and this seems to be happening, but I don't think he is innocent. I think he has some illness where this is concerned. And even if they planned on sex, I am quite sure they didn't expect to be drugged and taken in the form he felt appropriate. As I said before, I do not know the chain of events, only what is described in the article, and I am not absolving or condemning anyone... but it is not a stretch to assume they were all severely impaired before the talk of "going back to my hotel room" was brought up. It isn't a stretch either to think they could have passed out when they hit the bed or even just black out, and Sharper did not notice or care in his own drunkenness. In any case, it does bother me that these women, it seems, agreed to go to a man's hotel room, again, after a night of club hopping in Las Vegas.
	'Cause the simple man pays the thrills, the bills and the pills that kill

03-21-2015, 03:23 AM	#4
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Sharper gets another Must have read the Bill Cosby "how to" book! spkb25 likes this.

03-21-2015, 08:57 AM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Sharper gets another Hes going to be one broke s.o.b. No mater how it lands.

03-21-2015, 12:50 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by st thomas Hes going to be one broke s.o.b. No mater how it lands. Broke.. what, dude is going to jail, for a long time. I suspect it will be in the 15-20 year range

03-21-2015, 01:11 PM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Sharper gets another There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape.
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03-21-2015, 01:40 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by Beastmode There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape. He is pleading guilty, and per source that will include him admitting to drugging them. Come on man... The only rape a man can understand is by another man. You want to know what a woman feels like being raped, imagine having a man F- you in your ass and you can do nothing about it. It is a violation few men can ever understand. Kobe Bryant I never thought did it, and I did not want to believe Sharp did, but I can't ignore the evidence and almost certainty he did it. Apparently there are others involved and possibility he is going to start naming others...
	Your team stinks

03-21-2015, 01:46 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: Sharper gets another Originally Posted by Beastmode There was a lot more evidence with Casey Anthony and she walked. Sad part is if it comes down to circumstantial evidence he'll get convicted, same as Scott Peterson. The standards are not the same for men. Is there any hard evidence? How can something like this even be proven? As I have stated, I know of people who went down for this only to be proven completely innocent later. I'm not saying he's innocent, only it's very difficult to prove if you take emotions out of it. I'm a certified sexual assault victims advocate and can tell you, women lie a lot more than people want to believe. Guys also get raped but almost never report it either. A lot of misconceptions about rape. And I love you boss, but seriously man, this isn't a black man in the south getting placed in jail for rape based of someone's eye witness testimony. Kobe Bryant I still 100% believe was a lie by a mentally deranged woman looking for publicity and money, but this does not have that feel. Not by a long shot. And, I am always skeptical when women start the rape accusation, but this case he appears guilty, and now he is about to plead guilty for all of the rapes. Anyway, I am not going to argue about it, we are each going to have our opinions, and this time I just can't ignore the near certainty he did everything he is being accused of, and probably some we will never know about
	Your team stinks

03-23-2015, 09:26 AM	#10
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Sharper gets another If she goes to his hotel room willingly, if the idea of any type of sexual interaction is expected or implied, or if drugs and alcohol are involved, I hear what you are saying. But if the girl changes her mind, sobers up before, or any other avenue to reach the decision of NO, then it is NO. There is no gray area in this arguement. If he is drugging these girls without there knowledge and engaging in activities against their will, then he is breaking the law.

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