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jeanpierre 05-05-2015 07:28 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
One thing I'd like to see...

If La'el Collins needs some cash to pay back the money his agent(s) are fronting him - it's there...

Reality TV...

20' X 20' room - secured, with La'el Collins and Adam Schefter in the room...

Name of the Show - Why you Sweatin' My PayCheck, Bro?!?

Danno 05-05-2015 09:09 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
WWL Kattengill said the Saints WILL NOT sign Collins, stating that Payton has some info on the case.

LordOfEntropy 05-05-2015 09:40 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Holy cow.

lee909 05-05-2015 09:50 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Those hoping for the #Saints to be in the La'El Collins sweepstakes, hearing that's it's highly unlikely, per source.

SmashMouth 05-05-2015 01:03 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
:awe:

saintfan 05-05-2015 01:21 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Not gonna do it...

https://prudentpedal.files.wordpress...rgebushsr3.jpg

Wouldn't be prudent...

triman 05-05-2015 01:28 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
If cleared Why wouldn't you pursue the best guard in the draft. He would elevate our OL to whole new level . Imagine Armstead,Collins,Unger Evans,and Peat. WOW!!!

LordOfEntropy 05-05-2015 02:03 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Fantasy Football Breaking News - Rotoworld.com

"Profootballtalk reports teams can't officially meet with LSU G/T La'El Collins until May 9. It explains why the Dolphins are sending only players, and not coaches or executives. It's unclear how Bills coach Rex Ryan was able to host Collins for dinner. It means the race for Collins might not really heat up until Saturday."

saintsfan1976 05-05-2015 03:46 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Every restaurant in Louisiana he has dinner in should say:
"Thank you for dining with us tonight Mr. Collins. Mr. Loomis has already picked up the bill for this evening.... Who Dat."

SmashMouth 05-05-2015 04:32 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 654449)
Every restaurant in Louisiana he has dinner in should say:
"Thank you for dining with us tonight Mr. Collins. Mr. Loomis has already picked up the bill for this evening.... Who Dat."
Teams can’t meet with La’el Collins, yet | ProFootballTalk

rezburna 05-05-2015 04:51 PM
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Undrafted La'el Collins targeted by several NFL teams


Saints 1 of the 7 teams interested in Collins if cleared.

SmashMouth 05-05-2015 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 654460)
Undrafted La'el Collins targeted by several NFL teams


Saints 1 of the 7 teams interested in Collins if cleared.
Sources: Super Bowl champion New England Patriots latest in list of teams pursuing ex-LSU lineman La'el Collins | LSU | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Lord_Saint83 05-05-2015 05:18 PM
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Why couldnt we draft him in the seventh? If he does go to jail you wasted a seventh round pick big whoop Rooks didnt even make the team most seventh rounders dont only a select few but you kno he's a first round talent and a beast. The reward is greater than the risk. Now if gets his name clear you gotta fight prolly all 32 teams for him.

Danno 05-05-2015 05:22 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 654470)
Why couldnt we draft him in the seventh? If he does go to jail you wasted a seventh round pick big whoop Rooks didnt even make the team most seventh rounders dont only a select few but you kno he's a first round talent and a beast. The reward is greater than the risk. Now if gets his name clear you gotta fight prolly all 32 teams for him.
Because he'd be able to sit out one year and re-enter the draft next year

Lord_Saint83 05-05-2015 05:31 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
I thought they said he wasn't eligible for the '16 draft

Danno 05-05-2015 05:49 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 654474)
I thought they said he wasn't eligible for the '16 draft
If he was drafted and then sat out a season, he'd be eligible.
Since he wasn't drafted, he's not eligible.

Lord_Saint83 05-05-2015 05:58 PM
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Ohhhh, ok cool i must of misread that thanks

ScottF 05-05-2015 08:14 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
The only that is sure is that until he signs, apparently no one knows what's going on:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/collins...4137--nfl.html

there were reports that he met with Ryan. Guess those aren't true

|Mitch| 05-05-2015 09:16 PM
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And the plot thickens:

Quote:
Ex-LSU football star La'el Collins has told police he has an airtight alibi in the murder of the pregnant woman suspected of carrying his child ... TMZ Sports has learned.
Sources close to the investigation tell us ... Collins -- who was a projected 1st round NFL draft pick before the double murder -- spoke with investigators and said he has witnesses and phone records that prove he was nowhere close to Brittney Mills on the night she was gunned down.

SloMotion 05-06-2015 05:31 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 654470)
Why couldnt we draft him in the seventh? If he does go to jail you wasted a seventh round pick big whoop Rooks didnt even make the team most seventh rounders dont only a select few but you kno he's a first round talent and a beast. The reward is greater than the risk. Now if gets his name clear you gotta fight prolly all 32 teams for him.
His agents said they wouldn't sign after the fourth round also (?) I'd of gambled a 7th on him, :).

hagan714 05-06-2015 07:02 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 654524)
His agents said they wouldn't sign after the fourth round also (?) I'd of gambled a 7th on him, :).
Actually a smart move on his part. if drafted and signed he is stuck in the standard rookie contract locked in for 3 to 4 years with and option year still hanging over his head.

By going undrafted, he signs as a UDFA picking his team and can redo his contract as yearly as the end of the second year. 1.75 mill is not much compared to a first rounder but his pay day all rookies wait for comes 2 to 3 years earlier than every one else drafted

so Lloyd of London here he comes for those first two years and insures the heck out of himself. then payday before every player drafted.

say what they want about the agent. I say Smart move.

now give him all he wants and sign this kid. guarantees all day long

alleycat_126 05-06-2015 01:48 PM
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Snagging him would be like getting a little revenge on Roger for the bounty years... It would seem like we got another first... Who knows whrere he signs but at least let us be in the mix.....

lee909 05-06-2015 02:01 PM
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Sounds like he and his agent are chasing the money
Dont think we see him in black and gold


NFL Draft Diamonds ‏@DraftDiamonds 3m3 minutes ago
LSU G/T La'El Collins wants to sign with a team that will allow him to play tackle to help him maximize his earnings #Bills #Dolphins

Joker 05-06-2015 02:35 PM
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Other than being drafted in the 1st round the absolute best for him was not to be drafted at all. Now he signs with whom ever he wants and can renegotiate his deal after 2 years, if he was drafted he would have to wait at least 3. All the rest of that stuff about players drafted between this number and that number will not apply if he's as good as advertised.
Teams could have drafted him and it would have been his choice to sign or not but he loses in the long run if that team decides to hold the right to him for as long as possible.
I wish this man all the best if he's is totally cleared in any wrongdoing, he definitely didn't deserve this but he has to take a little responsibility by not making himself available when requested.

Beastmode 05-06-2015 02:46 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 654078)
I truly think he is guilty; if you know you innocent why not talk to the police before or during the draft.... this is a Rae Carruth situation all over. If I am wrong an he is innocent he need to fire whomever given him advice to wait after the draft; chances are he wouldve been drafted second day if he made efforts to talk to the police
If it were me, and I was innocent, I would make a statement, regardless of the draft. Look, I had nothing to do with her death and her unborn child. The last time I spoke with her was _______ and the child is not (or is mine). I want whoever did this brought to justice and will cooperate in anyway that helps to achieve that result.

He didn't do any of this, only saying he has an alibi from what I have read. Guess what? Not being around the crime scene is not saying you had nothing to do with it.

saintfan 05-06-2015 03:22 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 654582)
If it were me, and I was innocent, I would make a statement, regardless of the draft. Look, I had nothing to do with her death and her unborn child. The last time I spoke with her was _______ and the child is not (or is mine). I want whoever did this brought to justice and will cooperate in anyway that helps to achieve that result.

He didn't do any of this, only saying he has an alibi from what I have read. Guess what? Not being around the crime scene is not saying you had nothing to do with it.
Maybe. But I've learned a little bit about our legal system through my extremely unpleasant divorce - and perhaps the most important thing I've learned through it all is the value of "Radio Silence".

Anything you say can AND WILL be used against you. Lawyers suck. They're trained to spin. Guilty or otherwise (and I sure hope otherwise regardless of where he lands), he's best to go radio silent, and his lawyer is wise for seeing to it.

Beastmode 05-06-2015 04:05 PM
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I get that part about radio silence but there are some general statements he could have made. He never said anything other than he has an alibi. What about wanting to find who did it? Grief for their family? Nope. Nothing. If not for that, who knows, maybe he gets drafted. All I know is that if I was accused of it in the media I would clear my name with or without the police. I don't need the police to tell me I'm not a killer.

lee909 05-06-2015 04:18 PM
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I personally think his agent has advised him really badly.

They have come across as arrogant and looking for money.

Mr.Riaton 05-06-2015 04:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 654594)
I personally think his agent has advised him really badly.

They have come across as arrogant and looking for money.
Who's his agent....Tom Condon?

Danno 05-06-2015 05:19 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 654597)
Who's his agent....Tom Condon?
Deryk Gilmore, Priority Sports and Entertainment

saintfan 05-06-2015 05:38 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 654592)
I get that part about radio silence but there are some general statements he could have made. He never said anything other than he has an alibi. What about wanting to find who did it? Grief for their family? Nope. Nothing. If not for that, who knows, maybe he gets drafted. All I know is that if I was accused of it in the media I would clear my name with or without the police. I don't need the police to tell me I'm not a killer.
But why? There is exactly zero value in his making any statement. I'm not suggesting what you suggest is a mistake, only that he need not make any such statement - there is no value in it, legally, for him.

He has problems right now much larger than an NFL contract, and I'm sure the teams might have appreciated the statement you suggest, but legally any statement could ONLY be used against him. I'm guessing his lawyer told him to keep his mouth closed. It's the smart thing to do.

The Dude 05-06-2015 09:45 PM
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I say make him an offer, a good one. It would be like getting a fee top 15 pick for even less of a cap hit. If hes guilty then it will come out and he will be jailed. No harm done.
I am definitely all for giving him an interview and feeling him out.

The Dude 05-06-2015 09:50 PM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 653906)
Yeah, but I'm just wondering who he can really go after ... he had already committed to the draft, hasn't been charged with anything, so why should the NFL excuse/remove him from his commitment just because his stock drops? I don't see a case there, it's just business & the NFL didn't do anything to cause his decline in value.

The 32 NFL teams that did not draft him cannot be found culpable ... what did they do other than avoid him for possible future legal issues?

The police for investigating him and/or naming him a person-of-interest in his baby-mama's murder? IDK if there would be a case there either ... they're just doing their job as part of a murder investigation.

It's kinda' an odd situation and maybe the NFL is erring on the side of caution, but in today's NFL climate, they sorta' have to, IMO.

Just one of those situations the guy is gonna' have live through ... at least there's some light at the end of the tunnel in that there will still be some lucrative NFL contracts and an NFL career available to him when it's all cleared up.

But yeah, I agree, :lol: ... if there's a way for an attorney to build a case outta' this one, they're undoubtedly working on it as we speak, :lol:.
The NFL isnt liable, hes got nothing there, they were just protecting their investments. If he has a shot at going after anyone it will be the state for defamation of character maybe. Even that will make teams shy away because it will create a media circus and they could see it as a distraction. The NFL didnt do anything to him.
Its just an unfortunate incident.

jeanpierre 05-07-2015 04:32 AM
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I'd tell La'el Collins one thing, no one in this group has a freaking clue when it comes to crisis management...

Our Team | Priority Sports & Entertainment | www.prioritysports.biz | Chicago . Los Angeles . Sports Agency

I mean, as an agency, you didn't have one team among 32 that you could assuage to drafting your client in the second round?!?

What's really telling? There no longer are any references to La'el Collins on their website...

News | Priority Sports & Entertainment | www.prioritysports.biz | Chicago . Los Angeles . Sports Agency

Cue appropriate music referencing standing by your client...

F***ing Lawyers...

jeanpierre 05-07-2015 04:37 AM
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Collins Agent Says Client Not Meeting NFL Teams

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/collins...4137--nfl.html

LOL - are y'all sure his agent isn't Joe Isuzu?!?

lee909 05-07-2015 04:38 AM
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Id be talking to new reps after that.

I cant stand repsin spotys.
Too many leeches

jeanpierre 05-07-2015 04:38 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
In case this is significant...http://sports.yahoo.com/news/police-...9065--nfl.html

Police say a paternity test has confirmed former LSU offense tackle La'el Collins is not the father of a slain Baton Rouge woman's son...

foreverfan 05-07-2015 05:14 AM
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He certainly doesn't look guilty.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...IT-B6MO-3xuCv0

Crusader 05-07-2015 05:18 AM
Re: La'el Collins, What Do We Know?!?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 654656)
In case this is significant...http://sports.yahoo.com/news/police-...9065--nfl.html

Police say a paternity test has confirmed former LSU offense tackle La'el Collins is not the father of a slain Baton Rouge woman's son...
It probably could be important. Say it was an unwanted child, that could probably have been have been seen as a motive.


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