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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; NE was leading that game 17-7 at halftime when they checked the ball pressure. After it was corrected (?), they scored 28 points with properly inflated balls in the second half? I don't see the "advantage" angle of underinflated balls. ...
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Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady
NE was leading that game 17-7 at halftime when they checked the ball pressure. After it was corrected (?), they scored 28 points with properly inflated balls in the second half? I don't see the "advantage" angle of underinflated balls.
Lot of circumstantial evidence vs Brady. Sure I think he knew what was going on (what pro QB wouldn't?), but prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, ![]() Does it rise to the the level of an Alex Rodriguez, Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong? (Baseball sure has a lot of cheaters, ![]() ![]() |
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Originally Posted by SloMotion
To be honest, I don't really care if they inflated or deflated their testicles. It makes no difference to me. Though it seems pretty obvious they did, and Brady lied about it. What bothers me is that they were so quick to then call it circumstantial and not hard evidence. That may be so, but as has been pointed out, the same could be said for the Saints situation and they jumped all over us.![]()
Idiots will be quick to say "oh yeah but that's totally different". Is it? Because of what we were ASSUMED to have done was much worse we don't get the circumstantial excuse? Either you have the evidence or you don't. It doesn't matter the extent of the accusations. Kraft is always kissing Roger's butt, and now the reverse is happening and it is quite annoying. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady
Originally Posted by burningmetal
Speaking of deez nuts...![]()
Uninterrupted: Gronk Responds to Media's Handling of Deflategate | Bleacher Report | |
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
I'm not really comparing Bountygate to Deflategate and am just confident that Roger will handle Deflategate with the same ineptitude that he handled Bountygate and any other of his responsibilities to the league. ![]()
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Originally Posted by SloMotion
I wasn't suggesting you were comparing the two. I wanted to make the comparison myself because I don't see that much is happening to the Patriots here. People are talking about witch hunt, but it was the Colts who brought this thing up. I think the NFL just pretended to do a real investigation so as not to be accused of negligence.![]()
The rambling of the report and the dismissal of everything as being circumstantial, along with the empty "more probable than not" line seems like their way of pretending to be impartial while not really doing anything to the Patriots. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the relationship between Goodell and Kraft is known, and I have never been given a reason to NOT question Roger's credibility... Just my opinion though. Either way, I agree that he will screw it all up. That much is a given. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Originally Posted by burningmetal
Yeah, I think we're basically on the same page and it's just semantics, ![]()
![]() I mean, huh? "More than probable"? "Generally aware"? IDK, I'm "generally aware" of about 50% of the inappropriate activities in my vicinity, does that make me guilty of something? If you're gonna' do an investigation, do it right, don't speculate, come to a conclusion, not a theory, ![]() It's all very disappointing, IMO. ![]() |
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Originally Posted by SloMotion
Yeah I agree. It's bull crap any way you slice it. The only real difference (the way it appears right now) is the way this will be mostly swept under the rug in terms of penalty which, in essence, is the only consistent thing about Goodell. Nothing is ever the same, and it never makes sense.![]()
I do think the Patriots deflated balls, regardless of the report, as it seems to not be uncommon. And the fact that Brady so smugly laughed it off makes it look bad, but in actuality I don't think it really matters. BUT, the report itself is pretty dumb. The only reason I want to see punishment is for the sake of some kind of consistency, but you and I agree that won't happen. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady
Originally Posted by SloMotion
There's a reason for those terms. The terminology indicates a guilty verdict - from the NFL's policy. I know the verbiage sounds weak, or unsure, uncertain. But in actuality it means the opposite. See below.![]()
Ben Volin | Sunday Football Notes: Weighing possible punishments for Tom Brady, Patriots - Sports - The Boston Globe ...make no mistake — Wells’s use of the words “more probable than not” was very deliberate. That is the exact standard the NFL uses to determine guilt in its “Policy on Integrity of the Game & Enforcement of Competitive Rules.” |
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Re: Deflate Gate Finding Revealed - Implicates Brady
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I agree, it really didn't matter in that game at all. BUT, knowingly breaking the rules to try gain an advantage is still cheating and should be punished. I see this as a more direct infraction on the game itself than defensive players having a monitary incentive to play and hit harder. Let me say here though, I totally agree if the defense goes out and purposefully tries to hurt another player, they should be penalized. We were handed a huge penalty for something everybody knew most teams did. If the patriots slip by AGAIN being cold busted, then the league as whole should revolt. |
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