Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem

SmashMouth · 08-10-2018, 04:29 AM

All of the New Orleans Saints and Jacksonville Jaguars players on the field stood during the national anthem before Thursday's preseason game, but four Jaguars players were not on the field while the song played.

Running backs Leonard Fournette and T.J. Yeldon, cornerback Jalen Ramsey and linebacker Telvin Smith Sr. did not take the field until after the anthem finished.

"It's a personal thing and I don't want to get into it, but everyone has their own beliefs in certain things," said Fournette, an LSU and St. Augustine product.

The NFL and NFL Players Association are still working to find a compromise about how to handle players who wish to protest to raise awareness for racial injustices in the U.S. during the anthem. In May, the league adopted a policy that required all team personnel on the field to stand during the anthem. Players wishing to protest could stay in the locker room or off the field, but if someone chose not to stand on the field, he would face discipline.

This policy received significant backlash, and in July, the NFL and NFLPA announced that no new rules would be enforced with regards to the anthem until there was an agreement from both sides.

NOLA

Cruize · 08-10-2018, 06:25 AM

For the NFL, it's best that all participants on the field stand. For the players who choose this avenue to have their voices heard, staying off the field really defeats that purpose. I support the players right of free speech. But, in the end, the avenue they chose simply overshadowed their message.

rezburna · 08-10-2018, 06:54 AM

James Baldwin wrote an excellent speech that still applies to this very moment in time.

jeanpierre · 08-11-2018, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

James Baldwin wrote an excellent speech that still applies to this very moment in time.

A Letter To My Nephew?

rezburna · 08-11-2018, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

A Letter To My Nephew?

The American Dream and the American Negro

I suppose they all still apply though, because A Letter to My Nephew would suffice as well.

skymike · 08-12-2018, 03:47 PM

I care.
A significant number of other people care, also.
The TV ratings were affected last year, and the League is
working policy on this, so obviously somebody cares.

It matters to the players doing it.
It matters to many of their customers.

Beastmode · 08-17-2018, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The American Dream and the American Negro

I suppose they all still apply though, because A Letter to My Nephew would suffice as well.

I get that you have a lot of historical knowledge but how many people today have any ties to slavery, civil rights, lynchings, cop killings. It's almost nobody. There are some bad cops but get this; some of them are ALSO black as you well know. So what are we talking about then?

We are so racist we elected a black President. We are so racist we have black astronauts. I'm sorry dude but it just ain't reality. Yeah, racism exist but it has always existed and it will continue to exist. It's not even a crime to be a member of the KKK. They have a right to exist as hard is that is for you to acknowledge. I hate them but they do in fact have the right to exist. If they cause physical or financial harm to anyone though they will be held accountable.

vpheughan · 08-10-2018, 09:39 AM

Where are the "concerned players" during the off season? I'm sure if they wanted to "raise awareness" for any subject there is a media outlet for it. Don't want to hear about "So and So" working "behind the scenes" and quietly doing "this and that". "So and So" needs to be Overt not Covert! Only fitting that there be "band wagon" players for "band wagon" fans!

Beastmode · 08-10-2018, 10:33 AM

Chicago is averaging 8 people shot a day for the year. Maybe stickers on their helmets to honor them? Roughly 2920 so they would have to be very tiny.

The Dude · 08-10-2018, 11:45 AM

Who cares. Why are we still talking about this. It’s not like any of you guys haven’t stopped by the beer and hot dog stand during the anthem.

08-10-2018, 04:29 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem All of the New Orleans Saints and Jacksonville Jaguars players on the field stood during the national anthem before Thursday's preseason game, but four Jaguars players were not on the field while the song played. Running backs Leonard Fournette and T.J. Yeldon, cornerback Jalen Ramsey and linebacker Telvin Smith Sr. did not take the field until after the anthem finished. "It's a personal thing and I don't want to get into it, but everyone has their own beliefs in certain things," said Fournette, an LSU and St. Augustine product. The NFL and NFL Players Association are still working to find a compromise about how to handle players who wish to protest to raise awareness for racial injustices in the U.S. during the anthem. In May, the league adopted a policy that required all team personnel on the field to stand during the anthem. Players wishing to protest could stay in the locker room or off the field, but if someone chose not to stand on the field, he would face discipline. This policy received significant backlash, and in July, the NFL and NFLPA announced that no new rules would be enforced with regards to the anthem until there was an agreement from both sides. NOLA OldMaid likes this.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem For the NFL, it's best that all participants on the field stand. For the players who choose this avenue to have their voices heard, staying off the field really defeats that purpose. I support the players right of free speech. But, in the end, the avenue they chose simply overshadowed their message. OldMaid likes this.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem James Baldwin wrote an excellent speech that still applies to this very moment in time.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by rezburna James Baldwin wrote an excellent speech that still applies to this very moment in time. *A Letter To My Nephew?*

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by jeanpierre *A Letter To My Nephew?* The American Dream and the American Negro I suppose they all still apply though, because A Letter to My Nephew would suffice as well.

08-12-2018, 03:47 PM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem I care. A significant number of other people care, also. The TV ratings were affected last year, and the League is working policy on this, so obviously somebody cares. It matters to the players doing it. It matters to many of their customers. iceshack149 and OldMaid like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by rezburna The American Dream and the American Negro I suppose they all still apply though, because A Letter to My Nephew would suffice as well. I get that you have a lot of historical knowledge but how many people today have any ties to slavery, civil rights, lynchings, cop killings. It's almost nobody. There are some bad cops but get this; some of them are ALSO black as you well know. So what are we talking about then? We are so racist we elected a black President. We are so racist we have black astronauts. I'm sorry dude but it just ain't reality. Yeah, racism exist but it has always existed and it will continue to exist. It's not even a crime to be a member of the KKK. They have a right to exist as hard is that is for you to acknowledge. I hate them but they do in fact have the right to exist. If they cause physical or financial harm to anyone though they will be held accountable. rezburna likes this.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,543	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Where are the "concerned players" during the off season? I'm sure if they wanted to "raise awareness" for any subject there is a media outlet for it. Don't want to hear about "So and So" working "behind the scenes" and quietly doing "this and that". "So and So" needs to be Overt not Covert! Only fitting that there be "band wagon" players for "band wagon" fans! iceshack149, TheOak, OldMaid and 1 others like this.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Chicago is averaging 8 people shot a day for the year. Maybe stickers on their helmets to honor them? Roughly 2920 so they would have to be very tiny. ScottF, skymike and OldMaid like this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Who cares. Why are we still talking about this. It’s not like any of you guys haven’t stopped by the beer and hot dog stand during the anthem. ScottF, QBREES9, ChrisXVI and 1 others like this.
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