Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't know you, but I know what you speak. I'm very familiar with it. You get what you give sir. You're following a playbook with which I am somewhat well-versed. I can spot it 10 miles away.

You simply do not understand any side other than yours. You only think you do. That is evident in your posts which always lead back to race. The only person you're fooling is yourself.

Okay. 👌🏽

foreverfan · 08-13-2018, 09:47 AM

I don't hate my cat because he is black. I don't hate my cat because she is orange. I don't like my white cat because he is white.

I hate dishonest a-holes no matter what the color, race or species.

Which people are the most racist? Look in the mirror. Everyone has their own version of supporting themselves.

iceshack149 · 08-13-2018, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Good god at this nonsense. Tito bring this nut a tissue.

Great input. You did well to enrich this discussion.

lee909 · 08-13-2018, 05:10 PM

Rez
I see the post quoting Malcolm X above
I can get part of it but i wonder how would you solve the issues. I totally get not trusting either party. I wouldn't trust either of them (Im white Irish/English). Both parties are the same from what i see off them. The whole race thing is flaring up over here. Not suprisingly weeks after some of our right wing party members all had meetings with the agitating snake Steve Bannon.

Personally any type of bigotry disgusts me.
I'm not religious so don't want religious views clouding anything polotical. Teligion has no place in politics.

I also have no time for the recent trend over here of trying to push the respect our military like it is over there(I'll respect anyone that deserve it. Some in uniform do,some dont. Its a simple case of respect the man not the uniform/position in society),no time for the monarchy either.

It amazes me how msny in the US see the Democrats as a left wing party. There has barely been a true left wing socialist in years. Last time there was he was screwed by his own party,and yet i don't know enough about him to have a proper opionion.

How would YOU go about changing things?.

saintfan · 08-13-2018, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Rez
(Im white Irish/English)

What you have to understand is the above statement immediately disqualifies your opinion - you can not possibly understand, "Because You Are White"...but he's not 'racist'. Now that doesn't reconcile, but no matter, he's black so you could never even begin to understand how his loathing of white people isn't racist.

What he subscribes too is 100% anti-white. He will tell you he is pro-black and therefore not racist. He doesn't think blacks are superior (at least he won't 'say' that), only that blacks should take over. He supports the destruction of America and the Constitution that defines it because "it wasn't for black people". You're white. You're the enemy. Full stop.

rezburna · 08-13-2018, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Rez
I see the post quoting Malcolm X above
I can get part of it but i wonder how would you solve the issues. I totally get not trusting either party. I wouldn't trust either of them (Im white Irish/English). Both parties are the same from what i see off them. The whole race thing is flaring up over here. Not suprisingly weeks after some of our right wing party members all had meetings with the agitating snake Steve Bannon.

Personally any type of bigotry disgusts me.
I'm not religious so don't want religious views clouding anything polotical. Teligion has no place in politics.

I also have no time for the recent trend over here of trying to push the respect our military like it is over there(I'll respect anyone that deserve it. Some in uniform do,some dont. Its a simple case of respect the man not the uniform/position in society),no time for the monarchy either.

It amazes me how msny in the US see the Democrats as a left wing party. There has barely been a true left wing socialist in years. Last time there was he was screwed by his own party,and yet i don't know enough about him to have a proper opionion.

How would YOU go about changing things?.

We have to abandon the two party system and get rid of the electoral college. Democrats and Republicans are like siblings fighting over control of a toy that they’re about to break. Democrats use Blacks and other minorities as leverage to try and gain the upper hand over the Republican, majority. They both have their points policy-wise, but as far as race relations go they don’t know what the **** they’re doing. It’s simple for me, help the poor and it’ll help society in general. Go out of your way to make sure nobody can fail. Invest whatever it takes in your people if you really look at them as your people. Socialism and Capitalism are opposites that balance each other out. The Homestead Acts were investments into the American people that worked out on the countries behalf. Something similar could be done for minorities as a sign of good faith. Even if it’s a fake gesture people will fall for it. Just that, would do wonders for the country. Low morale can make a well oiled machine of a system seem rusty and time to replace. But if people want everyone to forget the past, you have to give them a real reason to. But the question will become, “Who’s going to pay for that?”. It’ll die there.

shawnkytonk · 08-13-2018, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't know you, but I know what you speak. I'm very familiar with it. You get what you give sir. You're following a playbook with which I am somewhat well-versed. I can spot it 10 miles away.

You simply do not understand any side other than yours. You only think you do. That is evident in your posts which always lead back to race. The only person you're fooling is yourself.

You should look in the mirror. Then you'd see you're just pointing at yourself.

shawnkytonk · 08-13-2018, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Great input. You did well to enrich this discussion.

Thanks. I enjoy shedding truth on the topic at hand.

iceshack149 · 08-13-2018, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

You should look in the mirror. Then you'd see you're just pointing at yourself.

skymike · 08-14-2018, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

“Who’s going to pay for that?”. It’ll die there.

So how do would you go about choosing who owes you something, and what they should pay?

08-13-2018, 08:45 AM	#21
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by saintfan I don't know you, but I know what you speak. I'm very familiar with it. You get what you give sir. You're following a playbook with which I am somewhat well-versed. I can spot it 10 miles away. You simply do not understand any side other than yours. You only think you do. That is evident in your posts which always lead back to race. The only person you're fooling is yourself. Okay. 👌🏽

08-13-2018, 09:47 AM	#22
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem I don't hate my cat because he is black. I don't hate my cat because she is orange. I don't like my white cat because he is white. I hate dishonest a-holes no matter what the color, race or species. Which people are the most racist? Look in the mirror. Everyone has their own version of supporting themselves. saintfan and skymike like this.
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08-13-2018, 03:53 PM	#23
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Good god at this nonsense. Tito bring this nut a tissue. Great input. You did well to enrich this discussion.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,829 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Rez I see the post quoting Malcolm X above I can get part of it but i wonder how would you solve the issues. I totally get not trusting either party. I wouldn't trust either of them (Im white Irish/English). Both parties are the same from what i see off them. The whole race thing is flaring up over here. Not suprisingly weeks after some of our right wing party members all had meetings with the agitating snake Steve Bannon. Personally any type of bigotry disgusts me. I'm not religious so don't want religious views clouding anything polotical. Teligion has no place in politics. I also have no time for the recent trend over here of trying to push the respect our military like it is over there(I'll respect anyone that deserve it. Some in uniform do,some dont. Its a simple case of respect the man not the uniform/position in society),no time for the monarchy either. It amazes me how msny in the US see the Democrats as a left wing party. There has barely been a true left wing socialist in years. Last time there was he was screwed by his own party,and yet i don't know enough about him to have a proper opionion. How would YOU go about changing things?. rezburna likes this.
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by lee909 Rez (Im white Irish/English) What you have to understand is the above statement immediately disqualifies your opinion - you can not possibly understand, "Because You Are White"...but he's not 'racist'. Now that doesn't reconcile, but no matter, he's black so you could never even begin to understand how his loathing of white people isn't racist. What he subscribes too is 100% anti-white. He will tell you he is pro-black and therefore not racist. He doesn't think blacks are superior (at least he won't 'say' that), only that blacks should take over. He supports the destruction of America and the Constitution that defines it because "it wasn't for black people". You're white. You're the enemy. Full stop. Danno and skymike like this.
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08-13-2018, 05:49 PM	#26
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by lee909 Rez I see the post quoting Malcolm X above I can get part of it but i wonder how would you solve the issues. I totally get not trusting either party. I wouldn't trust either of them (Im white Irish/English). Both parties are the same from what i see off them. The whole race thing is flaring up over here. Not suprisingly weeks after some of our right wing party members all had meetings with the agitating snake Steve Bannon. Personally any type of bigotry disgusts me. I'm not religious so don't want religious views clouding anything polotical. Teligion has no place in politics. I also have no time for the recent trend over here of trying to push the respect our military like it is over there(I'll respect anyone that deserve it. Some in uniform do,some dont. Its a simple case of respect the man not the uniform/position in society),no time for the monarchy either. It amazes me how msny in the US see the Democrats as a left wing party. There has barely been a true left wing socialist in years. Last time there was he was screwed by his own party,and yet i don't know enough about him to have a proper opionion. How would YOU go about changing things?. We have to abandon the two party system and get rid of the electoral college. Democrats and Republicans are like siblings fighting over control of a toy that they’re about to break. Democrats use Blacks and other minorities as leverage to try and gain the upper hand over the Republican, majority. They both have their points policy-wise, but as far as race relations go they don’t know what the **** they’re doing. It’s simple for me, help the poor and it’ll help society in general. Go out of your way to make sure nobody can fail. Invest whatever it takes in your people if you really look at them as your people. Socialism and Capitalism are opposites that balance each other out. The Homestead Acts were investments into the American people that worked out on the countries behalf. Something similar could be done for minorities as a sign of good faith. Even if it’s a fake gesture people will fall for it. Just that, would do wonders for the country. Low morale can make a well oiled machine of a system seem rusty and time to replace. But if people want everyone to forget the past, you have to give them a real reason to. But the question will become, “Who’s going to pay for that?”. It’ll die there. shawnkytonk likes this.
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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by saintfan I don't know you, but I know what you speak. I'm very familiar with it. You get what you give sir. You're following a playbook with which I am somewhat well-versed. I can spot it 10 miles away. You simply do not understand any side other than yours. You only think you do. That is evident in your posts which always lead back to race. The only person you're fooling is yourself. You should look in the mirror. Then you'd see you're just pointing at yourself. rezburna likes this.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by iceshack149 Great input. You did well to enrich this discussion. Thanks. I enjoy shedding truth on the topic at hand. rezburna likes this.

08-13-2018, 10:35 PM	#29
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by shawnkytonk You should look in the mirror. Then you'd see you're just pointing at yourself.

08-14-2018, 08:47 PM	#30
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Leonard Fournette amoung 4 Jaguars who stayed in tunnel during anthem Originally Posted by rezburna “Who’s going to pay for that?”. It’ll die there. So how do would you go about choosing who owes you something, and what they should pay? rezburna likes this.