Browns offense is loaded
 

Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Kareem Hunt
Odell Beckham
Jarvis Landry
Antonio Callaway
David Njoku

And their DL is great.


All eyes on Cleveland... This is their chance to really turn it around.

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I watched them a lot this season and they already had most of the pieces. They might be able to have a good couple of years now. God knows their fans deserve it.

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The Browns and Saints in the Superbowl would give a black eye to Goddell and his small market team theory.

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Maybe we can pick up more of their scrubs this year.

Didn't Lance Moore begin his career there?

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Are the Browns becoming Golden State Warriors of the NFL?

On paper, they look like contenders from the AFC North.

I'm a big Baker Mayfield fan though. Time will tell.

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It is official, they are Vegas favorites to win the AFC North.

I think they have a clear shot this year.

The AFC North is not all that great.... People love to complain about the AFC East and say that New England has it easy, but I don't see where this is all that different for Pittsburgh.

Baltimore finally had their first winning season since 2014 and no one believes in them cause they still don't have a QB. (Flacco was a below average QB after 2012 and the main thing holding them back after winning their last SB). Defense may win championships, but not without an offense that can march down the field. Even if they do have a #1 ranked defense again, it's incredibly rare for those types of teams to win SBs. The 2000 Ravens and 2015 Broncos did it, and couldn't get back the following years. (I do not count the 1985 Bears in this category cause their offensive DVOA numbers were impressive. Their passing offense was above average that year and their offense was legit top 5 material. They didn't just win it all cause of their defense that year.)

Cincy has always been a joke. No one believed in them even when they were winning 11 or more games cause we knew they wouldn't go far.

Pittsburgh is just begging to implode with their toxic franchise. Tomlin has no control over that team, Ben is old and has always been overrated and that defense really wasn't all that impressive last year. Pittsburgh overachieved in 2017 when they went 13-3 just barely beating bad teams. Last year they looked like a mediocre team which is what they truly were. Pittsburgh has a history under Tomlin of playing down to the competition against bad teams and it caught up to them last year.

I think if Cleveland is to make a strike at the division, this is the year to do it.

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This gave me a laugh LOL. I hate the Warriors so much, wish they would crash and burn.

I'd love to see Cleveland have a successful season making the playoffs and even winning their division. They kinda remind me of our Saints back in those dark days. "your dad's Saints" was what I grew up hearing, regarding the 70's years. To some younger folks, it would be "your grandpa's Saints".

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Weren't the 2000 Redskins and the 2011 Eagles "Dream Teams"? both finished 8-8

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It seems like every year there are a few teams that are "loaded on paper" that don't do squat. You cannot quantify chemistry, and that as we all know plays a major role. So, I guess we'll see.

That said, I'm glad they aren't on our schedule this year!

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Here’s one of the most important additions they’ve made that doesn’t get recognition: OC Todd Monken. Tampa had the #3 ranked offense in the league last year (and #1 in passing yards) despite constant flip-flopping of QB’s. They are going to light it up.

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An 8-8 year would be an improvement for the Browns. They haven't won 8 games in over 10 years now. They went 10-6 in 2007 and missed the playoffs. The only other time they had a winning season was 2002 when they went 9-7.

I think this team can at least get to 9-7.


Good point here. Monken's offenses at Southern Miss were pretty good. He some how got no credit at all last year for Fitzpatrick's success early in the season with Tampa.

That's partly why I do not believe in Tampa Bay. I've seen enough of Bruce Arians' offenses to know what to expect. His idea of "drop back and throw bombs" won't go well with Winston who already has a habit of dropping back and doing like Jeff George used to with throwing perfect INTs to defensive backs.

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The Browns office is loaded? Have they been smoking pot?

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Hunt is suspended for a while then, so many egos. Never a good situation when everyone is trying to be a superstar. Chubb is ok. He has one good move, up the right side and that's about it. It will be about the same or worse. They are good on paper but no telling when egos blow up which they will.

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They don't go get Hunt if they thought Chubb was the total package. Chubb wasn't the starter until close to the halfway point. Browns are trying to re-create the Chiefs. I still say too many egos. I like Chubb, good RB but it's hard to win without a great pass catching back which he is not other than one flashy catch. He'll be used mainly as a GL stuffer and spelling Hunt when he returns whenever that happens.

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I think new Browns HC Freddie Kitchens stated it best ...

"We’re better on paper than we were last year,” Kitchens said, via Albert Breer of SI.com. “That doesn’t mean anything other than, we’re better on paper".

Time will tell though.

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RB are inter-changeable. You could have Barry Sanders as your RB and still not win many games as long as your quarterback is below average and your passing offense is subpar (Sanders had 2 years of his whole career where the Lions offense was decent and had good QB play - 1994 and 1995. Still didn't win a playoff game). Just look at how Barkley's big rushing numbers with the Giants didn't translate to an improved passing offense because Eli Manning is still a washed up mediocre quarterback. Too much emphasis is put on RBs.

Mayfield's Y/A was 7.7 last year as a rookie. The QB in Green Bay who set a record for number of times throwing the ball out of bounds to protect his precious, holy TD/INT ratio last year had a 7.4 Y/A. Mayfield also had a significantly lower sack percentage than Rodgers.

If Mayfield can improve as a passer in his sophomore year, it won't matter who he's handing the ball off to. They'll survive during Hunt's suspension if their passing offense is clicking.

I agree that their biggest problem is going to see how they handle pressure moving forward and with higher expectations.

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Morgan Burnett jumps from the Steelers to the Browns.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...to-the-browns/

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This is Cleveland's schedule -

Titans
At Jets (Monday Night)
Rams (Sunday Night)
At Ravens
At 49ers (Monday Night)
Seattle
BYE
At New England (3 PM)
At Denver (3 PM)
Bills
Steelers (Thursday Night)
Dolphins
At Steelers (3 PM)
Bengals
At Cardinals (3 PM)
Ravens
At Bengals

Interesting to see that Cleveland managed to get a Sunday night game this year. It's been over 10 years since they last played on SNF. I highlighted the 3 PM games cause those are prim etime slots.

Looks like the Browns really are getting the hype and people believe in them, as evidence from the SNF slot and their many prime time games.

Hard to really make any predictions on the schedule yet, but it does look like 10-6 is possible.

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I'm a believer. I guess we'll see. Excited to see them though.

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Wow, my posts did not age well here! LOL

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When your OLine is considered a possible weak spot any offense will look average...or worse.

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Build from the inside out.

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Forget the Browns for a split second ...

Titans have a nice defense. Even Kenny Vacarro baited a starting tackle into kicking him in the head and getting ejected.

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They looked great on defense. They should be able to take the division with the Colts being in disarray.

As for the Browns, I guess this is what happens when you take top talent and give the keys to a coach who was not even a coordinator with zero experience. All because Baker Mayfield liked him.

Mayfield also spent the entire off season running his mouth. Every team probably has the Browns circled and are extra motivated to beat the snot out of them thanks to their extremely arrogant, cocky QB.

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Still need to play on game at a time. They haven't done anything yet.

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Bump ...

The season is still young however the Browns are looking like paper champions.

Footnote - Baker leads the league in INTs (19) over a 2 year span.

Kitchens has work to do.

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Mayfield don't look like he is living up to any of the hype.

I expect the Browns to get absolutely destroyed by their old selves up in Baltimore.

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So when they cut Mayfield, we can pick him up and have SP coach him up?

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I'd rather have Sam Darnold. He shows more promise than Mayfield and he don't have a chip on his shoulder.

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Their OLine is atrocious. Plus, too many people today look at football from a fantasy perspective. OBJ is a cancer. Incredibly talented. But, I would not want him on my football team.

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Yes, but Landry should have been with us since 2014! Nearly everyone recognized SJB was a 2nd round reach and there was Landry still available at our pick in the 2nd. But he had LSU kooties?

In a consensus "deep" draft at WR, we use a 1st on a WR? Almost any other position would've been preferable!

We needed help at LB and the following year missed on a 1st (S. Anthony) and 2nd (Kikaha). Needed OL help, DB, and especially DL.

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I'm not convinced the o-line is really the problem. Mayfield is getting himself in trouble by moving outside of the pocket. Aaron Rodgers has this same bad habit, it's the main reason he gets sacked so much.

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lmao, poppy...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFPd4LQW...name=4096x4096

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Next 4 opponents for the Dawg pound ..

Ravens
Niners (3-0)
Seahawks
Patriots

Really tough opponents in consecutive order.

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Or that old stand by "It's the coaching"

The Browns were 5 - 3 under Gregg Williams with Kitchens as O.C. Williams is the first Browns head coach to leave Cleveland with a winning record since Marty Schottenheimer way back in the last century!!! (1988).