Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs

Rsanders24 · 01-18-2021, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

This team has no fire in the playoffs, they just all look lethargic, like they don't care.

The offense looks boring as hell. Only time you see energy is on a trick play or when Hill comes in.

I love Brees and I truly appreciate all the things he has done for the team, state, and fans in general but he has brought this offense to a crawl. There is only so much you can do within 5-10 yard of the line of scrimmage.

I’m actually excited to see what SP can do if we open the offense up.

RefsRobbedUs · 01-18-2021, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

When year after year, we exit the playoffs in the exact same fashion, questions need to be asked.

Was it Brees' inability to push the ball downfield, or is Payton getting outcoached in the playoffs?

Considering in 2018 we almost lost to the Eagles, the only reason we won is because Jeffrey popped an easy pass in the air.

Last week vs Chicago, we were 1 dropped TD away from going into the half losing.

This team has no fire in the playoffs, they just all look lethargic, like they don't care.

I think past playoff experiences haunt them. Some how this stigma has to be washed away. I think it will take a new group

WillSaints81 · 01-18-2021, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Good luck with whatever team you support next season.

I'm a Saints fan. I will always be a Saints fan. But when Brees retires, I am done watching the NFL. I will not sit around and watch Brady outlast Brees and taking his records.

WillSaints81 · 01-18-2021, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well we went 8-1 with Bridgewater and Hill.

Yeah, but we were not playing Brady. And when defenses have all offseason to gameplan for a different QB, it's a whole other ballgame.

blackangold · 01-18-2021, 07:35 PM

Going to make one point here, because others have summed up most of the thoughts already.

Drew Brees has held this team back for 2 years (potentially 3). If I had to rate Drew as a QB when just looking at the last 2 years, he would be in the bottom 10 of the league.

Yes, replacing Drew when he was prime Drew will not be possible. However, Drew hasn’t played at elite levels in years. I actually believe that both Winston or Hill would be upgrades compared to the current Brees we see.

Going forward our cap situation is more of a concern than not having Drew.

The Dude · 01-18-2021, 08:44 PM

I didn’t see team chemistry and comradary that I’ve seen in years past.

Rsanders24 · 01-18-2021, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I didn’t see team chemistry and comradary that I’ve seen in years past.

I think that was mainly due to COVID-19 restrictions. This was the best defense I’ve watched in a long time. All the years we beat on the defense and now the offense let us down.

That’s what hurts me the most about this season. This was honestly the first year I felt going in at the start that the offense was going to be an issue and it surely was.

vpheughan · 01-18-2021, 08:59 PM

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Lord_Saint83 · 01-18-2021, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

I think that was mainly due to COVID-19 restrictions. This was the best defense I’ve watched in a long time. All the years we beat on the defense and now the offense let us down.

That’s what hurts me the most about this season. This was honestly the first year I felt going in at the start that the offense was going to be an issue and it surely was.

I had reservations about this defense. In the regular season they start sloppy and finish strong but lapses during the playoffs. This defense is the best the saints have fielded in the Payton/Brees era. Outside the points off turnovers they only gave up 9 points. Evans, Godwin, Gronk, and Brown were all held in check. That’s saying something.

jeanpierre · 01-18-2021, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Jared Cook has lost the fire, intensity and hunger. Those INTS sure didn't help either.

At the elite level of football, you don't win turning over the ball that many times in a playoff game. Once some of you go back and review the film, you'll see how bad Alex Anzalone really is in coverage. If Kwon doesn't return, go find a replacement because Anzalone isn't good enough. Anyone see Devin White at LB ? We need to consider bringing back Mike Nolan and develop more talent at linebacker.

Drew Brees is pretty much done playing. Time to see what we have in Jameis Winston. He's had a complete season in this offense, so I'd like to see what he can do.

I thought Lattimore and Jenkins played well.

This team made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, something a lot of squads weren't able to do. We can only have one winner but losing sucks.

The playoffs are a different animal, I'm not even mad.

Agree with all this except the Jameis part; Tom Brady just took Jameis team into the playoffs and beat the Saints at home that had swept them during the regular season...

We've seen what Jameis is in this league for five-plus seasons...

Everyone, and I get it, is judging Taysom against Brees career; well, can we see Taysom over the course of a season?

Can we give the guy more than a handful of games to acclimate to the NFL?

Even Brees was benched a couple of times before he got clicking as a veteran free agent with the Saints...

To be really honest, I'd hoped we ride with Taysom this season, felt Drew just didn't have the stamina to play 16 and a tournament...

And if Taysom were awful, the resultant record would have put us in a better position to grab a franchise QB in the draft...

01-18-2021, 03:57 PM	#41
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by dizzle88 This team has no fire in the playoffs, they just all look lethargic, like they don't care. The offense looks boring as hell. Only time you see energy is on a trick play or when Hill comes in. I love Brees and I truly appreciate all the things he has done for the team, state, and fans in general but he has brought this offense to a crawl. There is only so much you can do within 5-10 yard of the line of scrimmage. I’m actually excited to see what SP can do if we open the offense up. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-18-2021, 03:57 PM	#42
RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by dizzle88 When year after year, we exit the playoffs in the exact same fashion, questions need to be asked. Was it Brees' inability to push the ball downfield, or is Payton getting outcoached in the playoffs? Considering in 2018 we almost lost to the Eagles, the only reason we won is because Jeffrey popped an easy pass in the air. Last week vs Chicago, we were 1 dropped TD away from going into the half losing. This team has no fire in the playoffs, they just all look lethargic, like they don't care. I think past playoff experiences haunt them. Some how this stigma has to be washed away. I think it will take a new group
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01-18-2021, 07:14 PM	#43
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by dizzle88 Good luck with whatever team you support next season. I'm a Saints fan. I will always be a Saints fan. But when Brees retires, I am done watching the NFL. I will not sit around and watch Brady outlast Brees and taking his records.

01-18-2021, 07:18 PM	#44
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by Danno Well we went 8-1 with Bridgewater and Hill. Yeah, but we were not playing Brady. And when defenses have all offseason to gameplan for a different QB, it's a whole other ballgame.

01-18-2021, 07:35 PM	#45
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Going to make one point here, because others have summed up most of the thoughts already. Drew Brees has held this team back for 2 years (potentially 3). If I had to rate Drew as a QB when just looking at the last 2 years, he would be in the bottom 10 of the league. Yes, replacing Drew when he was prime Drew will not be possible. However, Drew hasn’t played at elite levels in years. I actually believe that both Winston or Hill would be upgrades compared to the current Brees we see. Going forward our cap situation is more of a concern than not having Drew. Rsanders24 and gosaints1 like this.
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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by The Dude I didn’t see team chemistry and comradary that I’ve seen in years past. I think that was mainly due to COVID-19 restrictions. This was the best defense I’ve watched in a long time. All the years we beat on the defense and now the offense let us down. That’s what hurts me the most about this season. This was honestly the first year I felt going in at the start that the offense was going to be an issue and it surely was. Lord_Saint83 likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs OFFENSIVE COACHES TOLD ME ON XM RADIO WHILE DRIVING MY NON EXISTENT 1954 FORD FAIRLANE 500 IN MY DON NOVELLO COSTUME!!! 19 - 0 BABY!!!!! SIRIUSLY!!!! CONSIDERING MY AUDIENCE!!!!
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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by Rsanders24 I think that was mainly due to COVID-19 restrictions. This was the best defense I’ve watched in a long time. All the years we beat on the defense and now the offense let us down. That’s what hurts me the most about this season. This was honestly the first year I felt going in at the start that the offense was going to be an issue and it surely was. I had reservations about this defense. In the regular season they start sloppy and finish strong but lapses during the playoffs. This defense is the best the saints have fielded in the Payton/Brees era. Outside the points off turnovers they only gave up 9 points. Evans, Godwin, Gronk, and Brown were all held in check. That’s saying something. Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II, Rueben Mayes and 2 others like this.

01-18-2021, 09:38 PM	#50
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from yet another Saints early exit in the playoffs Originally Posted by K Major Jared Cook has lost the fire, intensity and hunger. Those INTS sure didn't help either. At the elite level of football, you don't win turning over the ball that many times in a playoff game. Once some of you go back and review the film, you'll see how bad Alex Anzalone really is in coverage. If Kwon doesn't return, go find a replacement because Anzalone isn't good enough. Anyone see Devin White at LB ? We need to consider bringing back Mike Nolan and develop more talent at linebacker. Drew Brees is pretty much done playing. Time to see what we have in Jameis Winston. He's had a complete season in this offense, so I'd like to see what he can do. I thought Lattimore and Jenkins played well. This team made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, something a lot of squads weren't able to do. We can only have one winner but losing sucks. The playoffs are a different animal, I'm not even mad. Agree with all this except the Jameis part; Tom Brady just took Jameis team into the playoffs and beat the Saints at home that had swept them during the regular season... We've seen what Jameis is in this league for five-plus seasons... Everyone, and I get it, is judging Taysom against Brees career; well, can we see Taysom over the course of a season? Can we give the guy more than a handful of games to acclimate to the NFL? Even Brees was benched a couple of times before he got clicking as a veteran free agent with the Saints... To be really honest, I'd hoped we ride with Taysom this season, felt Drew just didn't have the stamina to play 16 and a tournament... And if Taysom were awful, the resultant record would have put us in a better position to grab a franchise QB in the draft... Rsanders24 and SmashMouth like this.
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