B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago

Budsdrinker · 01-25-2021, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Brees gave them almost half of those turnovers. Lol.

You just love to hate on Brees! So tell me, since you know more than coach Payton, who is your next Saints QB?

papz · 01-25-2021, 11:54 AM

Boston Saint · 01-25-2021, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Brees gave them almost half of those turnovers. Lol.

Cook was responsible for at least 1.5 of those himself

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

You just love to hate on Brees! So tell me, since you know more than coach Payton, who is your next Saints QB?

Based on our cap, draft position, and current roster I’d probably say Jameis Winston is the best option moving forward. I like Trey Lance a lot though. I wish he was realistic.

Budsdrinker · 01-25-2021, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Based on our cap, draft position, and current roster I’d probably say Jameis Winston is the best option moving forward. I like Trey Lance a lot though. I wish he was realistic.

Winston isn't under contract. What kind of deal would you offer him or better yet, what kind of deal do you think he will want?

Papa Voodoo · 01-25-2021, 01:20 PM

Thomas can't go deep anyway so pot and kettle right there. He's a possession receiver and Drew is super accurate ala the most catches in a season?

Boston Saint · 01-25-2021, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Thomas can't go deep anyway so pot and kettle right there. He's a possession receiver and Drew is super accurate ala the most catches in a season?

Exactly. Fact is they haven’t had the receiving/TE group to push the ball downfield since Graham left. It’s been a mix of washed up guys like Gin, Sanders, Montgomery, that can’t get the job done.

Rugby Saint II · 01-25-2021, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Cooks was right. Thomas is right. Brees shrank in the playoffs for years because his Noodle Arm would get exposed. It’s old news. There’s a reason Payton was trying to get Mahomes. I’m tired of talking about him. I don’t want to hear anything about Brees and the Saints until they induct him into the HOF.

I have nothing but respect for you Rez but the way that you talk about Drew feels disrespectful. He has been too good to us to talk about him like that. I respect what he's done for us and it's probably time to ride off into the sunset. Would you call him noodle arm to his face? No. I believe that you're better than that. We've been on the board together for years and I feel like I know you fairly well. All I'm saying is maybe you could just say that he has a very weak arm instead of the disrespectful tone of noodle arm. I agree it's time to move on though.

dizzle88 · 01-25-2021, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Thomas can't go deep anyway so pot and kettle right there. He's a possession receiver and Drew is super accurate ala the most catches in a season?

I don't necessarily believe that, Thomas can't help it when Payton changes the offense to aid Drews failing arm.

Coincidence that Thomas caught 150 passes, the year it was noticeable that Brees would not throw deep? I think not. Payton saw the decline and changed the offense to try and help.

Thomas rookie year he ran plenty of deep routes and had some nice catches from them.

blackangold · 01-25-2021, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

When Tampa is sporting Brown, Evans, Godwin, and Gronk to throw to and the Saints roll out a busted up Thomas, an over the Hill Sanders, a never-was Cook, and whatever other WR they hoped was healthy enough to play that day its hard to buy your statement about the super bowl caliber WR corps holding up the bottom end QB.

Having all of that talent wouldn't matter if the QB can't get the ball there.

Have you been around long enough to remember the "caliber" of WR/TE Brees used to have when throwing for 5000+ yds? The story used to be Brees could make anyone look good at WR, now apparently he needs all-stars around him.

All those "busted up" players you mentioned had no issues catching balls from other QBs over the last 2 years and winning games. They all have recently been pro-bowl players.

Last point here... Do you believe that if Drew Brees went to the Bucs instead of Brady, they would be in the Superbowl right now?

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna Brees gave them almost half of those turnovers. Lol. You just love to hate on Brees! So tell me, since you know more than coach Payton, who is your next Saints QB? gulfgambler likes this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna Brees gave them almost half of those turnovers. Lol. Cook was responsible for at least 1.5 of those himself

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Budsdrinker You just love to hate on Brees! So tell me, since you know more than coach Payton, who is your next Saints QB? Based on our cap, draft position, and current roster I’d probably say Jameis Winston is the best option moving forward. I like Trey Lance a lot though. I wish he was realistic. K Major and Boston Saint like this.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna Based on our cap, draft position, and current roster I’d probably say Jameis Winston is the best option moving forward. I like Trey Lance a lot though. I wish he was realistic. Winston isn't under contract. What kind of deal would you offer him or better yet, what kind of deal do you think he will want?

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Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Thomas can't go deep anyway so pot and kettle right there. He's a possession receiver and Drew is super accurate ala the most catches in a season? Rugby Saint II, RefsRobbedUs and Boston Saint like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Thomas can't go deep anyway so pot and kettle right there. He's a possession receiver and Drew is super accurate ala the most catches in a season? Exactly. Fact is they haven’t had the receiving/TE group to push the ball downfield since Graham left. It’s been a mix of washed up guys like Gin, Sanders, Montgomery, that can’t get the job done.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,187	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna Cooks was right. Thomas is right. Brees shrank in the playoffs for years because his Noodle Arm would get exposed. It’s old news. There’s a reason Payton was trying to get Mahomes. I’m tired of talking about him. I don’t want to hear anything about Brees and the Saints until they induct him into the HOF. I have nothing but respect for you Rez but the way that you talk about Drew feels disrespectful. He has been too good to us to talk about him like that. I respect what he's done for us and it's probably time to ride off into the sunset. Would you call him noodle arm to his face? No. I believe that you're better than that. We've been on the board together for years and I feel like I know you fairly well. All I'm saying is maybe you could just say that he has a very weak arm instead of the disrespectful tone of noodle arm. I agree it's time to move on though. FinSaint likes this.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,542	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Thomas can't go deep anyway so pot and kettle right there. He's a possession receiver and Drew is super accurate ala the most catches in a season? I don't necessarily believe that, Thomas can't help it when Payton changes the offense to aid Drews failing arm. Coincidence that Thomas caught 150 passes, the year it was noticeable that Brees would not throw deep? I think not. Payton saw the decline and changed the offense to try and help. Thomas rookie year he ran plenty of deep routes and had some nice catches from them. Rsanders24 and gosaints1 like this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Boston Saint When Tampa is sporting Brown, Evans, Godwin, and Gronk to throw to and the Saints roll out a busted up Thomas, an over the Hill Sanders, a never-was Cook, and whatever other WR they hoped was healthy enough to play that day its hard to buy your statement about the super bowl caliber WR corps holding up the bottom end QB. Having all of that talent wouldn't matter if the QB can't get the ball there. Have you been around long enough to remember the "caliber" of WR/TE Brees used to have when throwing for 5000+ yds? The story used to be Brees could make anyone look good at WR, now apparently he needs all-stars around him. All those "busted up" players you mentioned had no issues catching balls from other QBs over the last 2 years and winning games. They all have recently been pro-bowl players. Last point here... Do you believe that if Drew Brees went to the Bucs instead of Brady, they would be in the Superbowl right now? Rsanders24, gosaints1, K Major and 1 others like this.
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