2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

ChrisXVI · 04-02-2021, 06:28 PM

I highly recommend this interview with Zaven Collins...

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...pect-interview

He comes across as very humble and highly intelligent. Plus there’s this little nugget:

I’ve met with many teams. I’ve met with a ton of scouts. My first big meeting was with the New Orleans Saints. That was my first meeting where we went through defensive coverages and whatnot. They had me learning their defense. That’s the big one so far.

Combine that with seeing Jeff Ireland talking to Zaven at his pro day today and where there’s smoke, there’s fire. I think he’d be excellent at Will... which he mentions in that interview.

lee909 · 04-02-2021, 09:22 PM

Playing around on pff mock

28 Jayce Horn
60 Quin Meinerz
98 Jamin Davis
105 Milton Williams
133 Tommy Tremble
218 Sadarius Hutcherson
229 Josh Imatorbhebhe
255 Sam Ehlinger

lee909 · 04-02-2021, 09:28 PM

Or

jeanpierre · 04-03-2021, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Playing around on pff mock

28 Jayce Horn
60 Quin Meinerz
98 Jamin Davis
105 Milton Williams
133 Tommy Tremble
218 Sadarius Hutcherson
229 Josh Imatorbhebhe
255 Sam Ehlinger

Originally Posted by lee909

Or

Are you doing the trade before Pick 28 or there?

Or you making that trade based on a player(s) that you prefer are falling to 28?

lee909 · 04-03-2021, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Are you doing the trade before Pick 28 or there?

Or you making that trade based on a player(s) that you prefer are falling to 28?

On the second one, just didn't see anyone I thought you have to draft him. So traded back. The top CBs had gone, no edge rusher. Collins had gone too. I think there was a couple of tackles there. The only real steal by the adp was Elijah Moore and I'm not picking a 5'8 WR in the first.

Just some fun so took the trades. It would be a dream scenario though adding that much depth for the next couple of years even if Loomis has to find the money to sign them

jeanpierre · 04-03-2021, 12:34 PM

lee909 · 04-03-2021, 01:09 PM

Think trading Horn might be a bit rich for the Saints on draft day now.

ChrisXVI · 04-03-2021, 03:15 PM

Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant.

SmashMouth · 04-03-2021, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant.

Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him?

ChrisXVI · 04-03-2021, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him?

Well that’s the million dollar question. I really wish I could know the vision for Baun this year. After we drafted him Payton said they envisioned him playing the Mike. I’d sleep a lot easier if I knew he was stepping into that role and we had one less hole to fill in the draft.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints I highly recommend this interview with Zaven Collins... https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...pect-interview He comes across as very humble and highly intelligent. Plus there’s this little nugget: I’ve met with many teams. I’ve met with a ton of scouts. My first big meeting was with the New Orleans Saints. That was my first meeting where we went through defensive coverages and whatnot. They had me learning their defense. That’s the big one so far. Combine that with seeing Jeff Ireland talking to Zaven at his pro day today and where there’s smoke, there’s fire. I think he’d be excellent at Will... which he mentions in that interview.
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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Are you doing the trade before Pick 28 or there? Or you making that trade based on a player(s) that you prefer are falling to 28? On the second one, just didn't see anyone I thought you have to draft him. So traded back. The top CBs had gone, no edge rusher. Collins had gone too. I think there was a couple of tackles there. The only real steal by the adp was Elijah Moore and I'm not picking a 5'8 WR in the first. Just some fun so took the trades. It would be a dream scenario though adding that much depth for the next couple of years even if Loomis has to find the money to sign them

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Think trading Horn might be a bit rich for the Saints on draft day now.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant.
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04-03-2021, 06:46 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,554 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Forgive me for thinking out loud here, I just need to get this out there. Zaven Collins is a perfect fit for a Patriots-style defense. He’s Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. The Saints have this really weird desire to get these hybrid LB’s without actually having the ability to implement a multiple scheme. Zack Baun is such a talented player, but we couldn’t find a way to get him on the field. I fear it would be the same with Zaven Collins. Somebody in the organization wants us to run a multiple defense and we just aren’t capable of doing it. End rant. Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him?

04-03-2021, 07:43 PM	#10
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by SmashMouth Won't Zack Baum find a way this year with the depletion of talent around him? Well that’s the million dollar question. I really wish I could know the vision for Baun this year. After we drafted him Payton said they envisioned him playing the Mike. I’d sleep a lot easier if I knew he was stepping into that role and we had one less hole to fill in the draft.