2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

AsylumGuido · 04-13-2021, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

He doesn't look as fast on film and even his 40 suggest(4.48) but he really does look like he has a future in the league. Makes some really good plays on film,especially as that QB play looks awful, the ball hardly carries to him at times.

Perhaps he was running downhill with a tail wind.

jeanpierre · 04-13-2021, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

He doesn't look as fast on film and even his 40 suggest(4.48) but he really does look like he has a future in the league. Makes some really good plays on film,especially as that QB play looks awful, the ball hardly carries to him at times.

Love the way he catches the ball, high-points the ball, snaps the ball to his body, he's got great short area quickness to evade and pick up YAC; he does have suddenness...

Rugby Saint II · 04-14-2021, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Love the way he catches the ball, high-points the ball, snaps the ball to his body, he's got great short area quickness to evade and pick up YAC; he does have suddenness...

Quietly I chuckled with anticipation.....

jeanpierre · 04-13-2021, 01:04 PM

saintsfan1976 · 04-13-2021, 04:37 PM

oh

jeanpierre · 04-13-2021, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

oh

This was you or them? I actually like Tommy Kraeme, I just like Tommy Doyle moved to LG more...

saintsfan1976 · 04-13-2021, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This was you or them? I actually like Tommy Kraeme, I just like Tommy Doyle moved to LG more...

This was me hombre! I absolutely love five of those pics. Especially Najee Harris.

K Major · 04-13-2021, 04:44 PM

Another WR is needed in New Orleans.

Collectively, no one outside of Emmanuel Sanders stayed healthy. And now he's gone

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Boston Saint · 04-15-2021, 09:21 AM

Interesting nugget of information I noticed going through past drafts. The Saints have only drafted a QB as high as the second round ONLY ONCE in their entire history. That’s got to be some kind of record among NFL teams.

AsylumGuido · 04-15-2021, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Interesting nugget of information I noticed going through past drafts. The Saints have only drafted a QB as high as the second round ONLY ONCE in their entire history. That’s got to be some kind of record among NFL teams.

Comparing that to the numbers I posted in another thread that shows the improbability of getting a starting QB. Less than two of three QB's drafted in the first round start half of the games in their career. That percentage drops quickly in later rounds.

An extensive study done in 2015 on all drafts picks (non-kickers) between 2005 and 2014 showed that only 25.5% of all drafted players became starters for at least half of their careers. It also broke it down between rounds taken and position. The success rate (starting) of DL, RB, and WR picked in the first round is only 58%. QB's are only slightly better at 63%.

Here's a nice summary:

Historic Success Chart

The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters:

1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%)

2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%)

3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%)

4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%)

5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%)

6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%)

7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%)

04-13-2021, 04:08 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 He doesn't look as fast on film and even his 40 suggest(4.48) but he really does look like he has a future in the league. Makes some really good plays on film,especially as that QB play looks awful, the ball hardly carries to him at times. Perhaps he was running downhill with a tail wind.

04-13-2021, 04:31 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 He doesn't look as fast on film and even his 40 suggest(4.48) but he really does look like he has a future in the league. Makes some really good plays on film,especially as that QB play looks awful, the ball hardly carries to him at times. Love the way he catches the ball, high-points the ball, snaps the ball to his body, he's got great short area quickness to evade and pick up YAC; he does have suddenness...

04-14-2021, 01:21 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Love the way he catches the ball, high-points the ball, snaps the ball to his body, he's got great short area quickness to evade and pick up YAC; he does have suddenness... Quietly I chuckled with anticipation.....

04-13-2021, 01:04 PM	#4
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04-13-2021, 04:37 PM	#5
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04-13-2021, 05:51 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 oh This was you or them? I actually like Tommy Kraeme, I just like Tommy Doyle moved to LG more...

04-13-2021, 06:37 PM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre This was you or them? I actually like Tommy Kraeme, I just like Tommy Doyle moved to LG more... This was me hombre! I absolutely love five of those pics. Especially Najee Harris.

04-13-2021, 04:44 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Another WR is needed in New Orleans. Collectively, no one outside of Emmanuel Sanders stayed healthy. And now he's gone .

04-15-2021, 09:21 AM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Interesting nugget of information I noticed going through past drafts. The Saints have only drafted a QB as high as the second round ONLY ONCE in their entire history. That’s got to be some kind of record among NFL teams.

04-15-2021, 09:34 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint Interesting nugget of information I noticed going through past drafts. The Saints have only drafted a QB as high as the second round ONLY ONCE in their entire history. That’s got to be some kind of record among NFL teams. Comparing that to the numbers I posted in another thread that shows the improbability of getting a starting QB. Less than two of three QB's drafted in the first round start half of the games in their career. That percentage drops quickly in later rounds. An extensive study done in 2015 on all drafts picks (non-kickers) between 2005 and 2014 showed that only 25.5% of all drafted players became starters for at least half of their careers. It also broke it down between rounds taken and position. The success rate (starting) of DL, RB, and WR picked in the first round is only 58%. QB's are only slightly better at 63%. Here's a nice summary: Historic Success Chart The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters: 1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%) 2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%) 3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%) 4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%) 5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%) 6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%) 7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%)
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