2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

K Major · 04-23-2021, 03:00 PM

Jaelan Phillips - DE University of Miami

6'5/260 good closer with speed and range. Very good against the run as well. Legit first round talent, could start and be productive from Day 1.

A few scouts compare Jaelan's skill set to ---> CAM JORDAN.

Jaelan Phillips \|\| Miami Hurricanes Defensive Line \|\| 2020 Highlights - YouTube

ChrisXVI · 04-23-2021, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Jaelan Phillips - DE University of Miami

6'5/260 good closer with speed and range. Very good against the run as well. Legit first round talent, could start and be productive from Day 1.

A few scouts compare Jaelan's skill set to ---> CAM JORDAN.

Jaelan Phillips || Miami Hurricanes Defensive Line || 2020 Highlights - YouTube

Best DE in the draft. Fits our profile to a T. Buuut... he’s one concussion away from retirement. He already retired once in college.

Boston Saint · 04-23-2021, 03:59 PM

I just can’t see how they don’t go for a CB. Even trade up judging from past drafts. Of course I never have been correct about predicting Saints drafts.

jeanpierre · 04-23-2021, 04:08 PM

Wonder what we could get for the dancing bear Mr. Glass?

AsylumGuido · 04-23-2021, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wonder what we could get for the dancing bear Mr. Glass?

https://twitter.com/toddkarpovich/st...76362783105029

Your Mr. Glass has become more of a Mr. Reliable the past two seasons. What we would get is a hole at left tackle.

lee909 · 04-23-2021, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wonder what we could get for the dancing bear Mr. Glass?

https://twitter.com/toddkarpovich/st...76362783105029

Whatever we got would need spent on a new LT as I doubt you get more than a late 1 early 2. The big benefit would be in the cap but it's a bit late for that now

AsylumGuido · 04-23-2021, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Whatever we got would need spent on a new LT as I doubt you get more than a late 1 early 2. The big benefit would be in the cap but it's a bit late for that now

It wouldn't be a help in the cap at all. His base salary is only $1.12 million. The rest are all in bonus guarantees which we would get hit with. With his restructure bonus he counts $8.299 million against the 2021 cap. If we trade him we get hit with a $20.18 million slam.

No way at all we can move him even if we wanted and personally I think that would be beyond foolish as he is one of the best LT's in the league today. They are rare.

gosaints1 · 04-24-2021, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Whatever we got would need spent on a new LT as I doubt you get more than a late 1 early 2. The big benefit would be in the cap but it's a bit late for that now

Agreed on what we could get for him, but I doubt anyone would pony up a 1st for him as things stand right now. Moving him (a trade, pre or post 6/1) would free up a bit of cap space, $2.3M iirc, but it would be offset by dead money of just over $2M. Pick your poison, lol.

From my perspective, he’s already a sunk cost, let’s keep him..., unless a holy smokes offer happens. Him being on the roster is a much greater benefit than any compensation we would get, imho.

AsylumGuido · 04-24-2021, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Agreed on what we could get for him, but I doubt anyone would pony up a 1st for him as things stand right now. Moving him (a trade, pre or post 6/1) would free up a bit of cap space, $2.3M iirc, but it would be offset by dead money of just over $2M. Pick your poison, lol.

From my perspective, he’s already a sunk cost, let’s keep him..., unless a holy smokes offer happens. Him being on the roster is a much greater benefit than any compensation we would get, imho.

To whom are you referring? Dead money on Armstead via trade would be $20.18 million pre-6/1 and $7.179 million 2021/$13+ million 2022.

Armstead - spotrac.com

SmashMouth · 04-25-2021, 05:56 AM

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04-23-2021, 03:12 PM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Jaelan Phillips - DE University of Miami 6'5/260 good closer with speed and range. Very good against the run as well. Legit first round talent, could start and be productive from Day 1. A few scouts compare Jaelan's skill set to ---> CAM JORDAN. Jaelan Phillips \|\| Miami Hurricanes Defensive Line \|\| 2020 Highlights - YouTube Best DE in the draft. Fits our profile to a T. Buuut... he’s one concussion away from retirement. He already retired once in college.

04-23-2021, 03:59 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints I just can’t see how they don’t go for a CB. Even trade up judging from past drafts. Of course I never have been correct about predicting Saints drafts.

04-23-2021, 04:08 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Wonder what we could get for the dancing bear Mr. Glass? Twitter

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wonder what we could get for the dancing bear Mr. Glass? https://twitter.com/toddkarpovich/st...76362783105029 Your Mr. Glass has become more of a Mr. Reliable the past two seasons. What we would get is a hole at left tackle.

04-23-2021, 06:16 PM	#6
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wonder what we could get for the dancing bear Mr. Glass? https://twitter.com/toddkarpovich/st...76362783105029 Whatever we got would need spent on a new LT as I doubt you get more than a late 1 early 2. The big benefit would be in the cap but it's a bit late for that now

04-23-2021, 06:31 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 Whatever we got would need spent on a new LT as I doubt you get more than a late 1 early 2. The big benefit would be in the cap but it's a bit late for that now It wouldn't be a help in the cap at all. His base salary is only $1.12 million. The rest are all in bonus guarantees which we would get hit with. With his restructure bonus he counts $8.299 million against the 2021 cap. If we trade him we get hit with a $20.18 million slam. No way at all we can move him even if we wanted and personally I think that would be beyond foolish as he is one of the best LT's in the league today. They are rare.

04-24-2021, 08:31 AM	#8
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 Whatever we got would need spent on a new LT as I doubt you get more than a late 1 early 2. The big benefit would be in the cap but it's a bit late for that now Agreed on what we could get for him, but I doubt anyone would pony up a 1st for him as things stand right now. Moving him (a trade, pre or post 6/1) would free up a bit of cap space, $2.3M iirc, but it would be offset by dead money of just over $2M. Pick your poison, lol. From my perspective, he’s already a sunk cost, let’s keep him..., unless a holy smokes offer happens. Him being on the roster is a much greater benefit than any compensation we would get, imho.
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04-24-2021, 12:35 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by gosaints1 Agreed on what we could get for him, but I doubt anyone would pony up a 1st for him as things stand right now. Moving him (a trade, pre or post 6/1) would free up a bit of cap space, $2.3M iirc, but it would be offset by dead money of just over $2M. Pick your poison, lol. From my perspective, he’s already a sunk cost, let’s keep him..., unless a holy smokes offer happens. Him being on the roster is a much greater benefit than any compensation we would get, imho. To whom are you referring? Dead money on Armstead via trade would be $20.18 million pre-6/1 and $7.179 million 2021/$13+ million 2022. Armstead - spotrac.com