Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'
 

So much for Sean Payton's poker face. The New Orleans Saints coach didn't try to cloak the team's desire to re-sign free-agent quarterback Jameis Winston if Drew Brees retires as expected.

Payton spoke glowingly about Winston to ESPN and other media outlets while doing some Super Bowl week appearances on Wednesday, saying the Saints would like to re-sign him "sooner than later."

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We’d probably have to commit to him as the starter then... none of this small contract, compete with Taysom Hill stuff.

Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'
 

Saints gotta find a way to re sign Jameis.

There is no other affordable Free Agent (unless you like Trubisky, Marriotta, Darnold or JBrissett) out there or a rookie who can accomplish what Winston has already done at this level.

Can't wait to see how this unfolds.

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Don’t count out Drew Brees, just yet guys. He’s in town


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If Brees plays out this year you are going to see some major cuts to get under the cap or your going to see a deal deal with a crippling number of void years screwing the cap next year. Brees coming back is a disaster off the field and will do long term damage. Love everything's he's done but if he wants another year it's needs to be in another jersey

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Hey Lee909,

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm from St.T. ;) I think he's made it abundantly clear it's time to turn the page on Brees.

Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'
 

Ah, ok went over my head lol

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It's disappointing that Brees career ended the way it did, but unless there was something significant(rotator cuff) that was holding him back last year that can be fixed this year and make him significantly better than he was then he needs to retire. I mean he wasn't throwing to wide open guys cause it was too much of a struggle to get the ball down the field to them.

I think if we can keep the team together with Winston as the QB, we'll be better next year. I wouldn't count out Hill either. I think he has potential to figure it all out.

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If I had to choose between Jameis or Taysom, I’m 100% going with Jameis. Kamara’s value freaking plummeted with Taysom at QB. Taysom didn’t like throwing to him and when he did he threw fastballs at him when a little more touch was required.

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I loved the idea of Taysom running the West Coast offense, but when he refused to hit Kamara on a screen vs Denver when he was wide open, and then Brett Favre'd a pass right at Kamara's head from 5 yards away vs Eagles I'd seen enough.

He just doesn't recognise passing concepts and defenses quick enough to run a 3 or 4 receiver offense. As Deuce said on multiple gamedays about Taysom - PULL THE DAMN TRIGGER!!!

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That still makes me laugh my ass off. Kamara was so visibly annoyed when Taysom was starting.

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I was OK with him as a passer in general, but he needs to learn that sometimes you JUST TAKE THE SACK, live to fight another day and turnovers end the day. And yeah, he'd need to get more in sync with AK if he became starter. I'd like to see a honest "best man wins" between the two but I expect (if signed) JW will probably get the start with Hill as a weapon.

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It seems the careers of headcase QBs only get worse with time -- their skills naturally diminish with time and the psych issues remain.

Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'
 

Remember that we are trying to fix stupid here. They say it can't be done but I'm happy to give Payton a chance fix him.;)

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From every indication Winston is actually quite intelligent. Far from stupid. We have all made questionable decisions when we were younger.

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The Winston of his first few years in the league will be fine. Outside of his first season he didn't have a RB to really on for a start. Look how many passes he was attempting per season. Now that's not to say many picks where not his fault. He played under 3 head coaches in 4 years and had Dirk Koetter and Todd Monken as OC. Outside of Koetter hanging onto the play of Ryan and Jones they have sucked.

Not going to say he is the long term guy but he isn't the disaster people think. Well unless that one season under Adrian's when they pretty much told him he was gone after the season is who he is. And playing behind some god awful offensive lines. Don't ask him to be a 600 attempts a season guy. I think you have a 25-30 TD, 3500-4000 yard QB.

Alot depends on the money. I'd imagine it will be a 3/4 year deal with one year being voidable and in the 15-18ml range. The interesting thing will be Taysum Hill a FA after this year, does he accept he is a gadget player and should be paid as a WR2/TE or does he go looking for a QB deal. I'd love to see him move to a non QB threat. Let him run and catch and have him as QB3 keeping roster spots open.

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Winston's floor: Aaron Brooks. Ceiling: Kurt Warner
Taysom Hill's floor: Tim Tebow. Ceiling: Steve Young

Do you take the major roll of the dice with Hill, knowing if goes wrong he will wash out quickly like Tebow? The Winston choice is 'safer', because at worst case like Aaron Brooks we'd have a productive offense, just one that is frustrating and mistake-prone.

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Yeah thats a good point
Really depends on how much you like Winston and how much he wants imho
If he is asking for 18-20ml a year and a multi year deal its a big risk. Taysum you can take the risk he is the guy and give him this year to secure the spot and if it goes wrong you need to get someone in for next season and you have the cap to do it.

If a deal can't be done for Winston i would be offering the Jags a 3rd or possibly a 2nd for Minshew, he still has two years on a rookie deal and has shown plenty for me to at least be a short term bridge QB

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Winston is waaaay better than Aaron Brook so we're making it to the middle floor at least

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This is a report from myself and what I hear on sports radio shows and it’s has some legitimacy , Tampa bay was hit by the goodel syndrome in 2019 with there Gruel and unusual punishment schedule, like from Seattle to London 5 road games with that I ain’t diggin it up so y’all google it. They had a team that was no joke it was a wild arse Arians that had Winston going for broke with like someone said above because of a lack of a running game. Look Winston was in every game till the end . I’m curious if Payton can hone this cat.


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The more I read the more that I'm coming around to the idea that Winston is likely going to be our starter next year. Hill is not as good of a QB as he is as a gadget player. We still need a developmental QB. Preferably we use a draft pick in the third where there may still be talent on the board if Payton likes them.

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Winston with Payton at the helm could be the answer for the next 10 years... I’m sold on Winston being the guy and I think it makes us a much better team.

Lock him up on a 5 year decent money deal.

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Taysom is Caucasian Cam without the QB track record.

I like the dual threat of Taysom but give me the pure QB

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I not iffy anymore on Winston , after what I saw the last few years. I’m in. Hell I read something about SB teams rank like top 5 in explosive plays. Compare Kansas City I believe they had 28 explosive plays saints had 1, I’m ready for the
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Jameis never threw for more than 18 INTs until he got tangled with Arians. He simply didn't have 20 years, 6 rings or the power to tell Bruce to go to hell. Brady started down the same road, same INT's in the building then took over the offense.

JW needed Sean Payton.

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Totally agree


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Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'
 

I think you are onto something there.

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Winston had an interview the other week and the reporter asked him what he'd tell the 2015-2020 version of himself.

Winston said something along the lines of "to settle down and take what they give, to stay alive for the next play rather than trying to do something spectacular and costly."

If he can back up that mentality, then I've no issues with him being the starter.

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Re-signing Winston would be one the biggest mistakes in franchise history. It doesn't make sense financially or in regards to Winston's ability. Hill played incredibly well. Especially given the situation. He's done everything and beyond what has been asked of him. He's won games for the Saints at QB. He's a leader. He's tough as nails. He's making $16 million in a limited cap season. He's earned the right to be the QB of the Saints in 2021. And, if Mac Jones falls anywhere in range of making a logical trade up possible, QB problem completely solved.

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You could argue Drew Brees needed SP too.

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Last year SP picked Hill over Winston. Why the sudden change of heart? He had plenty of time to make the change to Winston and instead, he chose to stick with Hill. IMO Payton is grasping for straws praying Winston can keep the Saints above water. I think the Saints future is in the draft, not currently on the roster. Hill can be a cheaper bridge than Winston.

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Two likely reasons. The first is that he gave Hill, based on a prior promise, his shot when Brees went down and it was obvious there were some flaws in those outings. Second is that Payton, unlike us, has gotten to see Winston for a year in meetings and on the practice field.

Either could have swayed Payton. Or, he could just be doing a puff-up job on Winston to get him a better offer somewhere else to get a compensatory pick. I mean really who knows?

SFIAH

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I am really settling on the idea of Winston under center next year. Payton can probably get him to be at least a decent QB. Maybe even better. Here's to hoping that Sean can fix stupid. :cheers:

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Why do you call him “stupid”? Serious question here, what exactly is it that makes you think he is “stupid”? From an unbiased, academic evaluation..., he (Wonderlik of 27) and Drew Brees (Wonderlik of 28) are roughly equivalent from an intellectual point of view.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

I truly don’t get the argument that Drew Brees is quick, sharp as a tack, while Winston is “stupid” and needs to be “CSP fixed”.

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Do a quick search on Winston and you'll find evidence stupid behavior. He's been accused of rape and theft among other things--before coming to New Orleans. I'm hopeful that he's working to be a better man and I'm all about people that work on their character to grow in life.


We all desire grace whether we deserve it or not.

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If Payton sticks with Hill as the heir apparent, then Winston is surely going to leave in free agency. Payton is putting his best foot forward to try to keep Winston at something close to last year's rate and give the team more options to work with. I think the QB situation could still be wide open going into June and July.

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Those things supposedly happened before going to Tampa, as well. From all accounts he was a model citizen the whole time he has been in the NFL. I'd imagine most of us had at least a few incidents in college that would qualify as "stupid". ;)

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I’ll put a little different spin on this. If Winston is signed and given the starting job (I’m ok with this), then I don’t see a QB being drafted early (round 1 or
2). By the Saints. I’m guessing Winston will take at least a 3 year deal. I don’t see drafting a guy to ride the bench for that long and then planning on starting him in the last year or 2 of his rookie contract. But, if Winston isn’t signed, I see a QB taken round 1 and a Trubisky or Fitzmagic type signed for a one or 2 year deal. Thoughts?

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I'd like to see Winston get a shot.

As for the draft, I think it is going to come down to who is available when they pick. The Saints can't afford to trade up and if a run on QBs starts, they'll be left out by pick 28. Unless they reach a little bit, which is a bad idea.

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Let’s say they do sign Winston, but then a QB they like is a available at 28. Would you draft that QB then Stick ?