I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

voodooido · 02-03-2023, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I’d rather Winston than them 2 clowns, that’s just me.

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What has JW done that makes you think this way? Dude is straight trash

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2023, 11:50 AM

Buzz is building on Saints potentially teaming up with Raiders QB Derek Carr

John Sigler
February 3, 2023 11:29 am CT

Derek Carr, New Orleans Saints quarterback? It’s more likely than you think. The Saints were instantly linked to Carr when the Las Vegas Raiders made their intentions of moving on from him clear a month ago, and speculation has only gotten louder about the Saints being players in Carr’s sweepstakes (when and if they develop). Carr has a no-trade clause written into his contract that he can waive at his discretion, as well as a Feb. 15 trigger date that guarantees $40.4 million.

And the Raiders are trying to control this process by refusing to allow Carr’s agent to negotiate a trade, making an attempt at recouping some trade value. They can cut Carr before that date to get out of their contract with him but they would rather trade him somewhere and get something back in compensation. ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler sees the Saints as a team that could be in the mix once those trade talks heat up. When sharing what he’s heard on Carr from around league circles at the Senior Bowl practices this week, Fowler had this to say:

“Watch for the New Orleans Saints here. A Carr-Saints connection was buzzing a bit in Mobile, and they could be a suitor. New Orleans has a first- and second-round pick from the Sean Payton deal, and head coach Dennis Allen coached Carr during his rookie year in Oakland.”

The Saints have felt like a natural suitor all along; Allen believed in him enough to draft Carr way back when, so it makes sense that he’d have interest in working with the quarterback again. It’s worth wondering whether Carr is really an upgrade over Andy Dalton and Jameis Winston — all three of them, combined, have never won a playoff game — but he’s never enjoyed as strong a supporting cast as he would have in New Orleans. The strong Saints defense could buy him more breathing-room than he ever enjoyed with the Raiders.

And what are the ripple effects from a potential teamup? Would Michael Thomas rework his contract again to play with an established quarterback like Carr? What kind of draft capital would the Saints have to give up for Carr? Would he agree to not waive his no-trade clause, forcing the Raiders to release him, so New Orleans could simply sign him as a free agent? This would introduce a lot of new variables to the Saints’ offseason strategy but that’s true of any move they make at quarterback. There’s a lot of smoke with Carr. Let’s see if there’s actually a fire sparking it.

SmashMouth · 02-03-2023, 06:34 PM

If Saints decide to pursue him, they better not trade for him. In two weeks he'll get cut anyway.

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AsylumGuido · 02-03-2023, 06:46 PM

Well, we'll see if we get permission to talk to Carr. It may take a trade to get him. If there is enough interest he may not last to the point to be cut.

K Major · 02-03-2023, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...29334229327874

If Saints decide to pursue him, they better not trade for him. In two weeks he'll get cut anyway.

Right. Carr's contract is upwards of 40M. 40million dollars

There is no team in the league that is dumb enough to bite on a trade.

As someone else posted, it's time to get busy in the draft and find your next QB. The Saints are years away from seriously competing.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2023, 09:30 PM

My man Shanle has this one right!

jnormand · 02-03-2023, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...29334229327874

If Saints decide to pursue him, they better not trade for him. In two weeks he'll get cut anyway.

Agreed!!!

That said he would be an upgrade over anyone we have right now. Dalton should be a backup. And JW will probably be let go.

If they wanna roll the dice this next season and see if JW, Dalton or Hill can command the offense then fine. But don’t overpay for a guy that is probably gonna get cut in the first place.

jnormand · 02-03-2023, 09:49 PM

Let’s try to find the next QB of the future. Even if he sits a year. Brees was absolutely perfect. But we ain’t gonna get that with anyone we have now.

SmashMouth · 02-03-2023, 09:59 PM

Raiders, Packers should duplicate the Deshaun Watson trade formula

Errrr.... NEAUX, EFF NEAUX !

halloween 65 · 02-04-2023, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Is Carr an "upgrade" over Dalton? Yes, certainly.

He could be competitive in a very weak NFC South division. Forward-thinking.. the Saints still need to draft a young, athletic QB to sit and develop for a year. Just don't expect dramatic change with Pete Carmichael still holding a play sheet .

But yeah, DCarr could be a realistic option for the Saints in 2023. We'll see.

If by chance we do get Carr I'm pretty sure he'll want a 4 year deal. I would look to draft on in the later rounds to develop. I'm just looking at the holes to fill this season and next. We need to get much younger and bring the cap situation in hand. Carr also might help bring in a new HC instead of one with no proven qb.

02-03-2023, 10:56 AM	#71
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,751	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by st thomas I’d rather Winston than them 2 clowns, that’s just me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What has JW done that makes you think this way? Dude is straight trash
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02-03-2023, 11:50 AM	#72
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Buzz is building on Saints potentially teaming up with Raiders QB Derek Carr John Sigler February 3, 2023 11:29 am CT Derek Carr, New Orleans Saints quarterback? It’s more likely than you think. The Saints were instantly linked to Carr when the Las Vegas Raiders made their intentions of moving on from him clear a month ago, and speculation has only gotten louder about the Saints being players in Carr’s sweepstakes (when and if they develop). Carr has a no-trade clause written into his contract that he can waive at his discretion, as well as a Feb. 15 trigger date that guarantees $40.4 million. And the Raiders are trying to control this process by refusing to allow Carr’s agent to negotiate a trade, making an attempt at recouping some trade value. They can cut Carr before that date to get out of their contract with him but they would rather trade him somewhere and get something back in compensation. ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler sees the Saints as a team that could be in the mix once those trade talks heat up. When sharing what he’s heard on Carr from around league circles at the Senior Bowl practices this week, Fowler had this to say: “Watch for the New Orleans Saints here. A Carr-Saints connection was buzzing a bit in Mobile, and they could be a suitor. New Orleans has a first- and second-round pick from the Sean Payton deal, and head coach Dennis Allen coached Carr during his rookie year in Oakland.” The Saints have felt like a natural suitor all along; Allen believed in him enough to draft Carr way back when, so it makes sense that he’d have interest in working with the quarterback again. It’s worth wondering whether Carr is really an upgrade over Andy Dalton and Jameis Winston — all three of them, combined, have never won a playoff game — but he’s never enjoyed as strong a supporting cast as he would have in New Orleans. The strong Saints defense could buy him more breathing-room than he ever enjoyed with the Raiders. And what are the ripple effects from a potential teamup? Would Michael Thomas rework his contract again to play with an established quarterback like Carr? What kind of draft capital would the Saints have to give up for Carr? Would he agree to not waive his no-trade clause, forcing the Raiders to release him, so New Orleans could simply sign him as a free agent? This would introduce a lot of new variables to the Saints’ offseason strategy but that’s true of any move they make at quarterback. There’s a lot of smoke with Carr. Let’s see if there’s actually a fire sparking it.
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02-03-2023, 06:34 PM	#73
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,061 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Twitter If Saints decide to pursue him, they better not trade for him. In two weeks he'll get cut anyway. jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Well, we'll see if we get permission to talk to Carr. It may take a trade to get him. If there is enough interest he may not last to the point to be cut. Twitter

02-03-2023, 08:18 PM	#75
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,060 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...29334229327874 If Saints decide to pursue him, they better not trade for him. In two weeks he'll get cut anyway. Right. Carr's contract is upwards of 40M. 40million dollars There is no team in the league that is dumb enough to bite on a trade. As someone else posted, it's time to get busy in the draft and find your next QB. The Saints are years away from seriously competing. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...29334229327874 If Saints decide to pursue him, they better not trade for him. In two weeks he'll get cut anyway. Agreed!!! That said he would be an upgrade over anyone we have right now. Dalton should be a backup. And JW will probably be let go. If they wanna roll the dice this next season and see if JW, Dalton or Hill can command the offense then fine. But don’t overpay for a guy that is probably gonna get cut in the first place. SmashMouth likes this.

02-03-2023, 09:49 PM	#78
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Let’s try to find the next QB of the future. Even if he sits a year. Brees was absolutely perfect. But we ain’t gonna get that with anyone we have now. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,061 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Raiders, Packers should duplicate the Deshaun Watson trade formula Errrr.... NEAUX, EFF NEAUX ! halloween 65 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major Is Carr an "upgrade" over Dalton? Yes, certainly. He could be competitive in a very weak NFC South division. Forward-thinking.. the Saints still need to draft a young, athletic QB to sit and develop for a year. Just don't expect dramatic change with Pete Carmichael still holding a play sheet . But yeah, DCarr could be a realistic option for the Saints in 2023. We'll see. If by chance we do get Carr I'm pretty sure he'll want a 4 year deal. I would look to draft on in the later rounds to develop. I'm just looking at the holes to fill this season and next. We need to get much younger and bring the cap situation in hand. Carr also might help bring in a new HC instead of one with no proven qb.