I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

saintsfan1976 · 12-29-2022, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Consistency is totally dependent upon health. There isn't a team in the league that can be consistent on the offensive line when they are missing 60% to 80% of their starters. A successful offensive line is a cohesive unit. It is impossible to develop that cohesiveness with the guy to either side shuffling in and out every other game.

And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad.

K Major · 12-29-2022, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad.

All this negative is correct.

The Saints need better depth as well.

** Peat has yet to play an entire season in his 8 year NFL career.

saintsfan1976 · 12-29-2022, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

All this negative is correct.

The Saints need better depth as well.

Penning
Upgrade Peat
McCoy
Ruiz
Ram

That's a line Derek Carr could have success behind

AsylumGuido · 12-29-2022, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Penning
Upgrade Peat
McCoy
Ruiz
Ram

That's a line Derek Carr could have success behind

I agree ... as long as they all remain on the field. That's an offensive line that Winston or even Dalton can have success behind.

AsylumGuido · 12-29-2022, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad.

No kidding. Everyone's third string backups are consistently bad. That why we need the starters to remain healthy to gain that consistency. As long as players are constantly moving in and out of the lineup they have no shot at being "consistent".

Just look at Tampa Bay. They have suffered just as many injuries to their offensive line than the Saints. Their offense is struggling and would easily have three or four more losses without Brady under center.

Injuries are the great equalizer.

BakoSaint · 12-30-2022, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No kidding. Everyone's third string backups are consistently bad. That why we need the starters to remain healthy to gain that consistency. As long as players are constantly moving in and out of the lineup they have no shot at being "consistent".

Just look at Tampa Bay. They have suffered just as many injuries to their offensive line than the Saints. Their offense is struggling and would easily have three or four more losses without Brady under center.

Injuries are the great equalizer.

They are and they aren’t. For every team that only has 4 picks in a draft due to trades, there is a team that has 10 picks in the draft due to the opposite trades. Sometimes when the latter teams suffer injuries to their starting oline, the backups are early to middle round draft picks with much more upside than undrafted free agents and journeyman. We are able to trade so many of our picks because we dont value depth, and we dont value depth because we like having injuries as a reliable excuse. We found players like Armstead, Evans, and Nicks with second day picks. Now we trade away those picks and complain that Peat is injured for the 8th year in a row and nobody could have predicted it. You hold onto those mid round picks because you want to find a successor for Peat.

AsylumGuido · 12-30-2022, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

They are and they aren’t. For every team that only has 4 picks in a draft due to trades, there is a team that has 10 picks in the draft due to the opposite trades. Sometimes when the latter teams suffer injuries to their starting oline, the backups are early to middle round draft picks with much more upside than undrafted free agents and journeyman. We are able to trade so many of our picks because we dont value depth, and we dont value depth because we like having injuries as a reliable excuse. We found players like Armstead, Evans, and Nicks with second day picks. Now we trade away those picks and complain that Peat is injured for the 8th year in a row and nobody could have predicted it. You hold onto those mid round picks because you want to find a successor for Peat.

... with no guarantee those mid round picks will actually net you a successor to Peat that isn't injured 8 years in a row.

BakoSaint · 12-30-2022, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

... with no guarantee those mid round picks will actually net you a successor to Peat that isn't injured 8 years in a row.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. That is why the bum on the street does not waste time applying for a job or getting sober in hopes of improving their life. Why waste the time when there are no guarantees? Using that bums logic, why try to find the next jahri evans or carl nicks by valuing mid round picks when we have Andus Peat and we don’t know for sure a replacment of won’t be injured 8 years in a row. Anyway I’d love to buy Mickey a 40 in a paper bag. I think he would be better at drinking it than running the Saints. He could have as much as he wants now, and the consequences would come later, but he could mitigate those consquences by having even more of the same. But I am not invested in his liver, just the Saints salary cap and future, so it would work out better for me.

halloween 65 · 12-30-2022, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

They are and they aren’t. For every team that only has 4 picks in a draft due to trades, there is a team that has 10 picks in the draft due to the opposite trades. Sometimes when the latter teams suffer injuries to their starting oline, the backups are early to middle round draft picks with much more upside than undrafted free agents and journeyman. We are able to trade so many of our picks because we dont value depth, and we dont value depth because we like having injuries as a reliable excuse. We found players like Armstead, Evans, and Nicks with second day picks. Now we trade away those picks and complain that Peat is injured for the 8th year in a row and nobody could have predicted it. You hold onto those mid round picks because you want to find a successor for Peat.

Exactly!!

12-29-2022, 02:13 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,974 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Consistency is totally dependent upon health. There isn't a team in the league that can be consistent on the offensive line when they are missing 60% to 80% of their starters. A successful offensive line is a cohesive unit. It is impossible to develop that cohesiveness with the guy to either side shuffling in and out every other game. And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad. K Major and Thirty3 like this.

12-29-2022, 02:17 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,741 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad. All this negative is correct. The Saints need better depth as well. ** Peat has yet to play an entire season in his 8 year NFL career.

12-29-2022, 02:22 PM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,974 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by K Major All this negative is correct. The Saints need better depth as well. Penning Upgrade Peat McCoy Ruiz Ram That's a line Derek Carr could have success behind K Major likes this.

12-29-2022, 03:01 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Penning Upgrade Peat McCoy Ruiz Ram That's a line Derek Carr could have success behind I agree ... as long as they all remain on the field. That's an offensive line that Winston or even Dalton can have success behind.

12-29-2022, 03:00 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And Peat is consistently injured. Our backups are consistently bad. No kidding. Everyone's third string backups are consistently bad. That why we need the starters to remain healthy to gain that consistency. As long as players are constantly moving in and out of the lineup they have no shot at being "consistent". Just look at Tampa Bay. They have suffered just as many injuries to their offensive line than the Saints. Their offense is struggling and would easily have three or four more losses without Brady under center. Injuries are the great equalizer.

12-30-2022, 12:19 AM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,308	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No kidding. Everyone's third string backups are consistently bad. That why we need the starters to remain healthy to gain that consistency. As long as players are constantly moving in and out of the lineup they have no shot at being "consistent". Just look at Tampa Bay. They have suffered just as many injuries to their offensive line than the Saints. Their offense is struggling and would easily have three or four more losses without Brady under center. Injuries are the great equalizer. They are and they aren’t. For every team that only has 4 picks in a draft due to trades, there is a team that has 10 picks in the draft due to the opposite trades. Sometimes when the latter teams suffer injuries to their starting oline, the backups are early to middle round draft picks with much more upside than undrafted free agents and journeyman. We are able to trade so many of our picks because we dont value depth, and we dont value depth because we like having injuries as a reliable excuse. We found players like Armstead, Evans, and Nicks with second day picks. Now we trade away those picks and complain that Peat is injured for the 8th year in a row and nobody could have predicted it. You hold onto those mid round picks because you want to find a successor for Peat. MatthewT, halloween 65 and MarchingOn like this.
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12-30-2022, 09:59 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by BakoSaint They are and they aren’t. For every team that only has 4 picks in a draft due to trades, there is a team that has 10 picks in the draft due to the opposite trades. Sometimes when the latter teams suffer injuries to their starting oline, the backups are early to middle round draft picks with much more upside than undrafted free agents and journeyman. We are able to trade so many of our picks because we dont value depth, and we dont value depth because we like having injuries as a reliable excuse. We found players like Armstead, Evans, and Nicks with second day picks. Now we trade away those picks and complain that Peat is injured for the 8th year in a row and nobody could have predicted it. You hold onto those mid round picks because you want to find a successor for Peat. ... with no guarantee those mid round picks will actually net you a successor to Peat that isn't injured 8 years in a row.

12-30-2022, 11:49 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,308	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido ... with no guarantee those mid round picks will actually net you a successor to Peat that isn't injured 8 years in a row. Nothing in life is guaranteed. That is why the bum on the street does not waste time applying for a job or getting sober in hopes of improving their life. Why waste the time when there are no guarantees? Using that bums logic, why try to find the next jahri evans or carl nicks by valuing mid round picks when we have Andus Peat and we don’t know for sure a replacment of won’t be injured 8 years in a row. Anyway I’d love to buy Mickey a 40 in a paper bag. I think he would be better at drinking it than running the Saints. He could have as much as he wants now, and the consequences would come later, but he could mitigate those consquences by having even more of the same. But I am not invested in his liver, just the Saints salary cap and future, so it would work out better for me. K Major likes this.
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12-30-2022, 06:25 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by BakoSaint They are and they aren’t. For every team that only has 4 picks in a draft due to trades, there is a team that has 10 picks in the draft due to the opposite trades. Sometimes when the latter teams suffer injuries to their starting oline, the backups are early to middle round draft picks with much more upside than undrafted free agents and journeyman. We are able to trade so many of our picks because we dont value depth, and we dont value depth because we like having injuries as a reliable excuse. We found players like Armstead, Evans, and Nicks with second day picks. Now we trade away those picks and complain that Peat is injured for the 8th year in a row and nobody could have predicted it. You hold onto those mid round picks because you want to find a successor for Peat. Exactly!!