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View Poll Results: After three seasons, what grade do you give the Saints for the 2018 Draft Haul? | |||
A | 1 | 7.69% | |
B | 3 | 23.08% | |
C | 2 | 15.38% | |
D | 5 | 38.46% | |
F | 2 | 15.38% | |
Voters: 13. You may not vote on this poll |
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Anyway, just my thoughts and respect yours Guido! 👍...
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03-04-2021, 01:27 PM | #61 |
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Anyway, just my thoughts and respect yours Guido! 👍
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03-04-2021, 01:59 PM | #62 |
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Re: Grading the 2018 Saints draft class, three years in | USA Today/SaintsWire
Originally Posted by SaintGnome
Absolutely a draft pick can fail, just look at 2 1sts and a 5th. By the same token, so can veteran free agent acquisitions. And of course we can ALL have disparate views on the subject. But, it is extremely ironic that the subjectivity of what defines “fail” is subjective and is on display with the poll that started this thread, just look at those results! Whether it’s fair or not to define fail/pass on a person still being developed, or has been held back by injuries, or wasn’t started at his team, etc... is up for debate.
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03-04-2021, 02:08 PM | #63 |
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Re: Grading the 2018 Saints draft class, three years in | USA Today/SaintsWire
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
At no point did I ever say there was no uncertainty in the draft. I said that the 35% of players drafted don’t make their roster was a false statement. And it is/was. No doubt about it some draft picks don’t pan out for their team. No doubt about it that some veteran free agent acquisitions don’t pan out for their team also.
I’ve been clear, unambiguous. The draft is critical to building a team, so is free agent acquisition. Neither are more “successful” than the other. There is a gamble in everything related to football, so does that mean playcalling is a “crapshoot”? I would argue No. But to each their own. |
03-04-2021, 02:28 PM | #64 |
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Re: Grading the 2018 Saints draft class, three years in | USA Today/SaintsWire
Originally Posted by gosaints1
At this point I do not see Davenport as a failure at all. There nothing that tells me that he can't go out and ring up 15 sacks under the right conditions. At its very best the draft is a very inexact science. The very best have bad misses. The very worst have huge successes.
I agree with you that building through the draft is very critical. But with all of the unknowns nobody knows for certain when or if it will pay off. |
03-04-2021, 02:33 PM | #65 |
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Originally Posted by gosaints1
Again with the 35%. Once again I agreed to that point with you pages ago. That number was misrepresented from what I had read ages ago. But, you have to agree that a player with years of NFL snaps is much easier to gauge than a player who has never taken a professional snap in his career. It is completely logical to expect many times more missteps in the selection of the latter, is it not?
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03-04-2021, 05:39 PM | #66 |
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Nobody knows if a veteran free agent is going to “pay off” either.
The fact that we’re even discussing failure/success on a multiple first round draft pick choice from several years ago is EXACTLY my point wrt drafting. It’s impossible to grade them so quickly. Why? Because it’s so subjective, most ppl, including coaches and football executives, will “homer up” for the players they like, create excuses for them, aka injuries, scheme, coaching, playcalling..., heck I’ve even seen some folks use “ bad luck” as an excuse, lol. Could Davenport go out and rack up 15 sacks? Yes, but if so, then why he hasn’t he done it already? Hendrickson was just tied with A.Donald for 2d in the league in sacks with 13.5. Which, btw, is more than Davenport’s career sacks, combined. Bottom line..., he could..., but he hasn’t..., and he’s had the chances. If we evaluate one player with excuses and reasons as to why they haven’t lived up to their draft selection, then we should be open-minded enough to do it for all. I’ve said my piece on this AG, I understand your pov, I just disagree with it. Most things here are subjective, just opinions. Percentages though..., not so much. BikeWeek begins today and I’m just waiting on my girl to get home from work! Chrome is polished, lol! I’ll be away for a while, enjoy your weekend. |
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Re: Grading the 2018 Saints draft class, three years in | USA Today/SaintsWire
Originally Posted by gosaints1
We'll be heading out of town ourselves up into Arkansas on Saturday morning to do some picking. Our stock is getting low.
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