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AsylumGuido 03-14-2021 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916101)
If the team offers him a decent deal and makes him the starter then I could see Winston hanging around for less.
NFL careers are short. Nobody sticks around for less unless they already have their career bankroll tucked away. That's just plain foolish to do that for a young kid like Winston.

jeanpierre 03-14-2021 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 915656)
I have no idea what to think of in regards to Mac Jones. Alabama has a pretty poor history of producing pro quarterbacks. They work with so much talent over there that it makes their QB prospects extremely hard to evaluate.
Don't know Papz, Bart Star, Joe Namath, Ken Stabler and more recently Tua and Jalen Hurts are not bad reps for 'Bama...

But I get what you're saying, are they that good are products of a dominant team...

Rugby Saint II 03-15-2021 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916141)
NFL careers are short. Nobody sticks around for less unless they already have their career bankroll tucked away. That's just plain foolish to do that for a young kid like Winston.
How short was the career for Drew or Brady? I'd rather just have gas money and a Maserati than flash money and a Pinto that I was tied to for the term of the contract.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2021 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916231)
How short was the career for Drew or Brady? I'd rather just have gas money and a Maserati than flash money and a Pinto that I was tied to for the term of the contract.
LOL! Sorry, Rugs. I've read through that several times and am having a problem getting the point of your analogy. :D

Oh, wait! I get it now. The Saints are the Maserati. D'uh!

But, if after a point that gas money only buys you a real Pinto and it takes that flash to buy yourself a Maserati of your own?

I'm sorry, but our man is going for that money.

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TheOak 03-16-2021 04:50 AM
Re: The Deep QB Draft
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 915853)
So, like I said, we will see what happens.
It's rather passive aggressive to give an opinion then when someone has a different opinion you defer.... Obviously unless we meet our fate before the 2021 season we will all see what happens. Why comment if all you want to do is wait and see... Forums are for discussion if we take a wait and see approach there would be no activity here.

Don't get me wrong, I want nothing more than to have continued success. Even if for no reason other than knowing that there will be narcissistic armchair managers who don't know the smell of a locker room or how many lances on a football, coming to the realization that in spite of their ignorant opinions Sean Payton is extremely talented.

Drew Brees had a hand in but didn't save the New Orleans Saints. Sean Payton did when he took a chance and brought Drew Brees here. People moan about Sean's hubris but it takes that level of hubris to believe you can bring in a player who's career might be over and think you can make it work.:bng:

1 is the answer

K Major 03-16-2021 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 916084)
I like Trey more so than Trevor. In the right system, I think Trey will become a very good NFL QB.

Cruize 03-16-2021 10:01 AM
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Mac Jones. Could be the next Tom Brady with Payton. Three guaranteed cheap years allowing the team to stabilize and rebuild where necessary. Saints are then competitive for the next ten years.

Boston Saint 03-16-2021 10:52 AM
Re: The Deep QB Draft
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 916348)
It's rather passive aggressive to give an opinion then when someone has a different opinion you defer.... Obviously unless we meet our fate before the 2021 season we will all see what happens. Why comment if all you want to do is wait and see... Forums are for discussion if we take a wait and see approach there would be no activity here.

Don't get me wrong, I want nothing more than to have continued success. Even if for no reason other than knowing that there will be narcissistic armchair managers who don't know the smell of a locker room or how many lances on a football, coming to the realization that in spite of their ignorant opinions Sean Payton is extremely talented.

Drew Brees had a hand in but didn't save the New Orleans Saints. Sean Payton did when he took a chance and brought Drew Brees here. People moan about Sean's hubris but it takes that level of hubris to believe you can bring in a player who's career might be over and think you can make it work.:bng:

1 is the answer
Not sure what your angle is here Oak. Are you so insecure that you are going to call me names until I say you are right? Passive aggressive? No, it’s not wanting to spend energy arguing with someone Who obviously has a chip on their shoulder over something that will be determined over time. Do you want to argue about what the temp is gonna be here in Boston one month from today? Because that too is something we will see in time and won’t know until it happens.

You made statements predicting how much talent will be lost because of the cap hell. I simply indicated it might not be as bad as you think, saying “ I don’t think there will be a massive talent drop off like you are predicting. We will see though.” if you want to Try and look into my psychological make-up and accuse me of being passive aggressive over this, then knock yourself the f$&ck out. I’ve gone on record here many times and people, I think, will back me up when I say I try to keep an open mind on this site and not act like I know everything.

AsylumGuido 03-16-2021 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 916373)
Not sure what your angle is here Oak. Are you so insecure that you are going to call me names until I say you are right? Passive aggressive? No, it’s not wanting to spend energy arguing with someone Who obviously has a chip on their shoulder over something that will be determined over time. Do you want to argue about what the temp is gonna be here in Boston one month from today? Because that too is something we will see in time and won’t know until it happens.

You made statements predicting how much talent will be lost because of the cap hell. I simply indicated it might not be as bad as you think, saying “ I don’t think there will be a massive talent drop off like you are predicting. We will see though.” if you want to Try and look into my psychological make-up and accuse me of being passive aggressive over this, then knock yourself the f$&ck out. I’ve gone on record here many times and people, I think, will back me up when I say I try to keep an open mind on this site and not act like I know everything.
As you well should. I'm the only one here that knows everything. You stay in your place, Boston.

;)

AsylumGuido 03-16-2021 11:27 AM
Re: The Deep QB Draft
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916231)
How short was the career for Drew or Brady? I'd rather just have gas money and a Maserati than flash money and a Pinto that I was tied to for the term of the contract.
I guess he ended up going with gas money for the Buick.

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voodooido 03-16-2021 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 915654)
Kellen Mond ?

Didn't expect him in the top 5 of NFL QB prospects.
Didn’t expect him in the top 15

Boston Saint 03-16-2021 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916378)
As you well should. I'm the only one here that knows everything. You stay in your place, Boston.

;)
Notice I said don’t ACT Like I know everything Guids.

AsylumGuido 03-16-2021 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 916400)
Notice I said don’t ACT Like I know everything Guids.
Yup. You know your place, Boston. :D

SmashMouth 03-16-2021 03:09 PM
Re: The Deep QB Draft
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 915717)
I see what you're saying here on these guys …

For me, I simply believe Mac Jones will struggle at the NFL level. Decent arm, could make all the right throws but this was at Bama. A machine with clean pockets to throw out of. No one will be open in the NFL.

Mac better hope he is selected by a team with a decent to good O line. Otherwise, we could see Burrow (Cincy has the worst O line in football) part II and a torn ACL :(. I think Kurt Cousins will be his ceiling at the NFL level in the right system.

No clue on Trevor or Fields but I think Mond is a career back up.

Personally, I hope we go CB, LB or O line at #28. Safer picks IMO.
Sounds like Drew Brees clone?!?

K Major 03-16-2021 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 916420)
Sounds like Drew Brees clone?!?
Lol.

#9 and #12 are rare breeds.

SmashMouth 03-16-2021 05:55 PM
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SmashMouth 03-16-2021 06:00 PM
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AsylumGuido 03-16-2021 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 916451)
Anybody that doubts Mac Jones please listen to this guy. He nails it.

SmashMouth 03-17-2021 01:02 AM
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Rugby Saint II 03-17-2021 02:55 PM
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Whoever we pick at QB, if we go that way, has to have certain intangibles that only Payton knows. There is no doubt that Sean knows the traits of these QB's better than anyone. It doesn't matter what round you draft a QB, preferably early, but Brady skews that somewhat. The point is whoever we draft to be our QB must have several certain traits that Sean Covets.

K Major 03-17-2021 03:12 PM
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Jamie Newman - Wake Forest

Big kid, good size and hands. Played at Georgia before transferring to Wake Forest. Could see him slide to the Day 2.

Some scouts see Dak Prescott skill set in their evaluation of Jamie.

SmashMouth 03-23-2021 10:38 PM
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MAC Jones workout at Bama pro day

Rugby Saint II 03-28-2021 12:40 PM
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The draft can't get here fast enough.

SmashMouth 03-29-2021 10:07 AM
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Trevor Lawrence passes on draft invitation

SmashMouth 03-29-2021 10:40 AM
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Peter King's column on the QBs is good

SmashMouth 04-08-2021 08:34 AM
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Mac Jones is the clear favorite to go No. 3 overall

SmashMouth 04-25-2021 05:45 AM
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