Marcus Williams Tagged

07-15-2021, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Report: Marcus Williams, Saints unlikely to beat deadline for long-term deal

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ong-term-deal/

Per Underhill : "Deadline to sign Marcus Williams has passed without a deal, per source. Saints made a strong offer but they’ll have to wait to try again".

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Can't blame Marcus and agent waiting for a more favorable cap year - he's the most underrated player on this Saints defense...

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...65023645855744

It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he whiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

K Major · 07-15-2021, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

Hard to assume that one Smash. You still had to get through a red hot Philly team the following week. No guarantees we would have won.

The Dude · 07-15-2021, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

Nobody in the league was beating Philly that year. Nobody. They just had the “it” factor. Just like we did in 06.

AsylumGuido · 07-15-2021, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

He only whiffed because he was told not to create a foul. That's not on him.

jeanpierre · 07-15-2021, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Nobody in the league was beating Philly that year. Nobody. They just had the “it” factor. Just like we did in 06.

Respectfully, we'd tore Philly a new arsehole - Sean going out-of-character conservative vs MIN HC, his kryptonite, did us in...

SmashMouth · 07-15-2021, 09:28 PM

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jeanpierre · 07-15-2021, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he whiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth.

Usually when the Saints Front Office has extended a player, it's been cheaper than franchise tagging them over and over...

Thought they'd learned their lesson with Drew on that one...

jeanpierre · 07-15-2021, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/ilTU6rSbLR0

Mike Triplett is tripping - Using ProBowls to equate NFL success is a non-sequitur...

Case in point - In 2019, Ryan Ramczyk had one of the most dominant performances by an offensive line in NFL history...

Ramz allowed only one (1) sack all season, all the while facing no less than probably nine (9) future HOF DEs with only two (2) Holding and two (2) Offside Calls...

Source: https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...offensive-line

Ryan Ramczyk wasn't named to the ProBowl that year, though he was All-Pro, so ProBowls are not a valid indicator of NFL success...

If this were the NY, Philly, ATL, Chicago, Dallas, or L.A. Saints, Marcus Williams would have been All-Pro his rookie year, let alone have been named to the Pro-Bowl...

As I stated earlier in the thread, it's a gamble, but the right move for him is to wait till next season when the cap number should escalate as much as 20%...

Williams with another great season and that cap number higher should give him all the leverage...

SmashMouth · 07-16-2021, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Respectfully, we'd tore Philly a new arsehole - Sean going out-of-character conservative vs MIN HC, his kryptonite, did us in...

That plus SP's bad knowledge of the rule book, unlike BB.

ChrisXVI · 07-16-2021, 08:58 AM

Well we’re currently about $27 million over the 2022 salary cap ceiling of $208 million with only 40 players under contract. Yes we’ve seen the gymnastics Loomis and Harley can do to get under the cap this offseason, but next year may be even more daunting because we don’t even have a QB under contract. I think Marcus Williams is as good as gone.

07-15-2021, 05:56 PM	#41
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,016 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by K Major Report: Marcus Williams, Saints unlikely to beat deadline for long-term deal https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ong-term-deal/ Per Underhill : "Deadline to sign Marcus Williams has passed without a deal, per source. Saints made a strong offer but they’ll have to wait to try again". Originally Posted by jeanpierre Can't blame Marcus and agent waiting for a more favorable cap year - he's the most underrated player on this Saints defense... https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...65023645855744 It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he whiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth. jeanpierre likes this. Last edited by SmashMouth; 07-15-2021 at 09:30 PM..
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07-15-2021, 06:09 PM	#42
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Originally Posted by SmashMouth It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth. Hard to assume that one Smash. You still had to get through a red hot Philly team the following week. No guarantees we would have won.

07-15-2021, 07:51 PM	#43
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Originally Posted by SmashMouth It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth. Nobody in the league was beating Philly that year. Nobody. They just had the “it” factor. Just like we did in 06.
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07-15-2021, 07:53 PM	#44
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Originally Posted by SmashMouth It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he wiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth. He only whiffed because he was told not to create a foul. That's not on him.

07-15-2021, 07:57 PM	#45
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Originally Posted by The Dude Nobody in the league was beating Philly that year. Nobody. They just had the “it” factor. Just like we did in 06. Respectfully, we'd tore Philly a new arsehole - Sean going out-of-character conservative vs MIN HC, his kryptonite, did us in... SmashMouth likes this.

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07-15-2021, 11:13 PM	#47
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Originally Posted by SmashMouth It’s probably better to tag him twice rather than pay an inflated price, especially since he whiffed on a game saving tackle that would have earned us a SuperBowl berth. Usually when the Saints Front Office has extended a player, it's been cheaper than franchise tagging them over and over... Thought they'd learned their lesson with Drew on that one... SmashMouth likes this.

07-15-2021, 11:22 PM	#48
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/ilTU6rSbLR0 Mike Triplett is tripping - Using ProBowls to equate NFL success is a non-sequitur... Case in point - In 2019, Ryan Ramczyk had one of the most dominant performances by an offensive line in NFL history... Ramz allowed only one (1) sack all season, all the while facing no less than probably nine (9) future HOF DEs with only two (2) Holding and two (2) Offside Calls... Source: https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...offensive-line Ryan Ramczyk wasn't named to the ProBowl that year, though he was All-Pro, so ProBowls are not a valid indicator of NFL success... If this were the NY, Philly, ATL, Chicago, Dallas, or L.A. Saints, Marcus Williams would have been All-Pro his rookie year, let alone have been named to the Pro-Bowl... As I stated earlier in the thread, it's a gamble, but the right move for him is to wait till next season when the cap number should escalate as much as 20%... Williams with another great season and that cap number higher should give him all the leverage... SmashMouth likes this.
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07-16-2021, 08:47 AM	#49
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,016 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Originally Posted by jeanpierre Respectfully, we'd tore Philly a new arsehole - Sean going out-of-character conservative vs MIN HC, his kryptonite, did us in... That plus SP's bad knowledge of the rule book, unlike BB. jeanpierre likes this.

07-16-2021, 08:58 AM	#50
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Marcus Williams Tagged Well we’re currently about $27 million over the 2022 salary cap ceiling of $208 million with only 40 players under contract. Yes we’ve seen the gymnastics Loomis and Harley can do to get under the cap this offseason, but next year may be even more daunting because we don’t even have a QB under contract. I think Marcus Williams is as good as gone.