Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

I expected a restructure, but not this.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

The kid has potential but he was hurt a good bit last year, hopefully it’s not a habit

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

I was just thinking to myself how health is the key. You gotta be able to stay on the field.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Knowing Loomis and the moves he pulls we will likely have Golladay starting opposite Thomas next year! 😝

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Tough cut there. I wonder if it's temporary or if Sanders will take this free agency opportunity to get a contract elsewhere.

The Saints have to be under the cap one week from today. After that they can start to maneuver again.

Just because Sanders is a free agent doesn't mean that he cannot sign a new contract with the Saints again one free agency starts.

SFIAH

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

I think at this point in his career he'll either go for the most money or somewhere that will give him a best chance at a ring. I don't believe we provide either. Good luck to him.

We had so many different injuries last year that just makes you wonder what could have been... if we were able to gel on offense.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

He was a little slow to assimilate the position and completely understand Sean Payton's complex & extensive play book. I wish him well wherever he ends up. Maybe Sanders should just listen to his next QB about route running and not argue....we all know that Drew is the master!

Edit: My original posts said Kwon...don't ask me why. Brain F***!

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

I wish I could like this ten times papaz. In practically every game they played with some type of patchwork lineup at practically every position and still got the number 2 seed.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

To add to that Rugs, didn’t he have some injury time missed? Seems likes many of our FA WR signings seem to spend significant time on IR. The Bears WR is another and Ginn Jr did as well IIRC.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Yeah, I think you're right! But we got a new pro scouting director now so hopefully we bring in healthy free agents. We do tend to gamble on injured veterans staying healthy in New Orleans. It worked for Drew. But it's been kinda' hit or miss since then. We've had some successful free agents....just not often enough.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

The Saints are loaded with young WR talent. If they can learn how to avoid injuries, the Saints will be in excellent shape.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

This has been a huge issue as of late. It seems we have entered the last few post-seasons with key injuries either limiting play or sidelining the player entirely.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Or not.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Ha ha ha. Ok I laughed at this

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Emmanuel Sanders was good in New Orleans. Unfortunately, he wasn't effectively used as we would have liked down field.

I'd argue the only time he caught anything deep was when Taysom was under center. In 14 games he had over 800 yards, 5 TD's and 33 1st downs by receptions. Reliable hands, good locker room guy and was a mentor.

It is what it is though. Good luck with his next team.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Could be JP. But I think you are dismissing the injury factor when it comes down to playoff teams. I’m not going to beat the dead horse again about how healthy Tampa was on O bs how banged up the Saints were. If you want to pigeonhole that as Us not being able to throw a long ball then good for you. But if you don’t think that most of the reason we lost to the SB champs after beating them twice in the regular season was because they were healthier than we were I simply disagree.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

I'm right there with you, Boston. I have mentioned luck before when it comes to winning championships. We unfortunately were missing key players in the post season (Taysom and Murray) and had our hall of fame QB suffering from the affect of a torn rotator cuff, a facia injury, and the after affects of eleven rib fractures and some people will lament about our not passing down field. No sh!t, Sherlock!

I understand some people have issues with the management of this franchise ... no, wait, I do not understand it, but I do recognize that they do seem to readily place all blame for everything in that direction.

Sometimes things just don't work out. It is as simple as that.

Sorry for hijacking your post, Boston. :D

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Hijack away !

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Sanders was a luxury to take our offense over the top and be really dominant. But it didn't work out with Thomas' injury issues. We can't afford him anymore, but at least we tried.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

I think trequon had 4 tds and a 14 yd avg , he stayed relatively healthy so may be looking up for him
Or not we can save 2million plus on cutting him
Or not he he


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Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Drew Brees was locked in on Marquez Calloway he was rolling till the ankle got bummed up. Then Drew got riuzed and we know the rest of the story


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Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

We lost to the SB champs bc of four turnovers. 1 fumble, 3 int’s. That’s why.

Plain & Simple. All teams are banged up come championship month.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

But some are banged up at different degrees. Tampa Bay was fortunate (lucky) that they came into the playoff at their healthiest, while we came into our game with them missing several of our key players and losing others during the game. Had we been at full compliment maybe Jared Cook would not have been placed into the situation to create two of those turnovers and we, perhaps, wouldn't have been in the position to be forcing the ball once behind to produce the others.

Had Brees not been dealing with injuries of his own I seriously expect we would have won that game handily once again. And don't give me that "injury isn't an excuse" malarkey. Injuries can be and often are the "reason" for subpar play. That is a fact. Teams lose all the time for many various reasons. Injuries are one of the most prominent of those reasons as it is one of the most difficult to overcome. It can even be near impossible given the circumstances.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Right.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Yes, that's right. However, just because all teams are banged up it doesn't place them in exactly the same boat when it comes to the totality of injuries. There's nothing that can be done to change that fact. You are forced to play with the cards that are dealt. Those differing degrees of health, or lack thereof, are a very real factor in the outcome of the games come playoff time. That's where the luck that I have mentioned so many times comes into play.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

This team is one of the top 5 run teams in the league ... top 5 roster ... most wins of any NFL Club in the last 3 years ... drafting well ... pursuing free agents. Look at the other top 5 teams San Fan, Seattle, LA RAMS KC and now Tampa and remember Tampa wasn’t in this discussion a year ago.

Even he greatest QB of the current day couldn’t win this year, because he couldn’t throw the ball downfield because of want Tampa was able to do the them defensively ... defensively ... and to Green Bay and us as well. And we were the only team that had a real chance to beat Tampa until the Cooks fumble causing 10-14 point swing.

Can’t stand all the After The Fact GM’ing and Post Game rip of the orginaization from those who have no insight and information on who’s capable and who’s not.

I am FAN since 1967 and this Managment group, coaching staff, player roster is the the best we have ever had .. period ... full stop.

We did not win the big one .... thats life and why you play the game. Arron Roger has won 1 Super Bowl in 2011 has not been back since. Phillip River never won, San Fan hasn’t won modern times, LA Ram haven’t won, when is the last time Seattle went to the SB ... how many have they won.

I expect us to be competitive this year won’t look the same but this organization will field a team capable of winning ... we might lead the league in salary cap right now that will be fixed. There are a lot teams not nearly as well managed even with millions of dollars in cap space and multiple high draft picks they will fail to manage Coach and play themselves out the bottom of their division.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Fournette was on and off the injury report all year long. Godwin had his health issues. Tom Brady had knee surgery immediately following the season’s end. All teams are banged up to a certain degree. Give Tom Brady 4 turnovers, and you’re going to lose that game.

1 fumble

3 int’s..., they were ALL terrible throws. The int’s were ALL Drew Brees, bad throws, all of them. Yes, the fumble was painful..., but so were the three interceptions. Do I think losing players during the game contributed? Yes. But all teams deal with injuries throughout the season and inside of each game. Next man up..., and adapt to the circumstances you have, not the one you wished, or hoped, or had luck prevailed, or been fortunate enough, to have.

Score was 20-20, after Drew’s first interception AND the ensuing TB touchdown from Cook’s fumble.

Put the ball in Drew’s hands, what happened?

1st possession:
PUNT (and a beautiful 55 yarder by Morestead I might add!), Time of Possession - 1:38, 5 plays 12 yards, 1 First Down due to penalty, 1 rush attempt

2nd possession:
INT#2, Time of Possession - 2:44, 5 plays, 13 yards, 1 passing First Down, 1 rush attempt

3rd (final) possession:
INT#3, Time of Possession - 0.40, 4 plays, 10 yards, 1 rushing First down, 1 rush attempt.

Bottom line, Drew Brees had his chances to move the ball, but was unable to do it, as evidenced by his 134 passing yards total for the entire game.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Brees was playing with a torn rotator cuff. You ever tried that?

Injuries killed us. Who cares if Fournette had injuries during the season. It's the fact he was healthy come the playoffs that gave the advantage.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

That’s where I think you are putting a little too much blame on Drew. I think it would have been different if he had, say a Godwin, Evans, Brown and Gronk group to throw to along with a healthy 1-2 RB combo instead of
just Kamara, Sanders, and a Cook who looked like he had bet his house on Tampa. Each their own though

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Neither Fournette nor Brady were “healthy” come playoff time. Neither was Brees, that much is obvious. They ALL played through their injuries as much as possible.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Gotcha, fully understand that. Who’s to “blame” isn’t my cup of tea, that’s not what I’m trying to say. My very simple point is an unbiased person who watched the game will say four turnovers were the reason the Saints lost. Blame playcalling all you want, Blame injuries all you want..., heck.., blame Covid if you feel like it, blame the mayor, blame the zodiacal portents, blame Marie LaVeau if you’re feeling nostalgic. But the stats in the stat columns paint a picture, and if you actually watched the game, and the interceptions, which I’m sure most of us did, then the painting was full on clear.

Turnovers

Also, I’ll take CGM, Sanders, Tre’Quan and Cook on that day over the four you listed. All day long. Add Kamara, even without Murray in the mix, and oh yeah. With that OL? It’s a good roster, a very good roster, and a deep one. And I’m looking forward to next season regardless of who is under center!

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Well, if you want to put it on stats only and skip injuries and Voo Doo then the Saints lost because Tampa generated more points than the Saints did, not because of Turnovers.

And considering how banged up Thomas was, then Tampa clearly had a more potent and effective receiving/TE/RB corps available to them in that game than the Saints did. Unbiased observation supports that.

Re: Saints release veteran receiver Emmanuel Sanders in cap-saving maneuver | Luke Johnson
 

Bingo! 21 points directly off of 3 turnovers. The Bucs had to go 3 yards, then 40 yards, then 20 yards for those TD’s. The last turnover was the end of game possession. wrt CGM, he was targeted only four times the entire game, zero catches.

Tampa only had 189 passing yards, while the Saints had 190 total. More potent? I think not. wrt rushing, the Saints had 105 on 25 carries for a solid 4.2ypc, the Bucs had more with 127, but on 35 carries for a 3.6ypc rushing attack. I’ll take those playmakers, against the other team’s playmakers all day long, sans the turnovers.