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BakoSaint 03-11-2021 09:04 PM

Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Apparently Anzalone feels unwanted with the Saints and is looking for a team where he feels more at home, like with Oshner or Dignity Health. Starting linebacker or not, I will always view him as a peoples champion.

https://twitter.com/andrewjuge/statu...472978435?s=21

Boston Saint 03-11-2021 10:10 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
I’m not going to kick Anzalone for this. I’m not saying he is correct, but it is indicative of what is IMO the most glaring weakness of Payton’s tenure. He has developed players at practically every position on the team, including punter, except LBs. He was smart enough to go get guys like Vilma and Davis that worked to his credit.

BakoSaint 03-11-2021 11:17 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
When Greg Oden felt unwanted by his American team, for very similar reasons to Anzalone, he went to play abroad. This could be a great solution for Anzalone.

jeanpierre 03-12-2021 07:33 AM

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Alex is a great guy who, in my opinion, got schitty orthopedic care at Florida, and was faced with a stunted NFL development while he finally got the care he actually needed...

There's two dynamics that I see here; first, he wasn't fully accepted by his teammates, and second, he was on a short chain after the team invested so heavily in getting him healthy...

Those are almost always the two strikes that make a guy want to move on from a team; NFL players I've been friendly with, or their sons in some cases, have shared this with me consistently...

Can't say I know Alex that well, but he struck me as a fun loving guy wanting to fit in and play football; and for whatever reasons, he never fit in with these Saints...

Wish him well. He's got a beautiful wife and baby, and I hope he can resume his career for at least the term of another contract and have a long, happy life...

The Dude 03-12-2021 08:43 AM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 915964)
Alex is a great guy who, in my opinion, got schitty orthopedic care at Florida, and was faced with a stunted NFL development while he finally got the care he actually needed...

There's two dynamics that I see here; first, he wasn't fully accepted by his teammates, and second, he was on a short chain after the team invested so heavily in getting him healthy...

Those are almost always the two strikes that make a guy want to move on from a team; NFL players I've been friendly with, or their sons in some cases, have shared this with me consistently...

Can't say I know Alex that well, but he struck me as a fun loving guy wanting to fit in and play football; and for whatever reasons, he never fit in with these Saints...

Wish him well. He's got a beautiful wife and baby, and I hope he can resume his career for at least the term of another contract and have a long, happy life...

What makes you think he wasn’t accepted by his teammates? I wasn’t able to read the Tweet.

K Major 03-12-2021 09:06 AM

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I posted a clip of the Ross Tucker/Anzalone interview a few days ago.

Quite frankly, Alex hadn't done enough in the 3+ seasons here. There was a reason the Saints made a trade last season. Notice how much better the defense played when Kwon arrived? Demario Davis being able to freelance and what not.

I wish Anzalone the best but he simply didn't get it done at the starting LB position. The NFL is a production driven business. If you don't impact the position or make plays, coaches will replace you.

This is big boy football.

jeanpierre 03-12-2021 09:48 AM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 915980)
I posted a clip of the Ross Tucker/Anzalone interview a few days ago.

Quite frankly, Alex hadn't done enough in the 3+ seasons here. There was a reason the Saints made a trade last season. Notice how much better the defense played when Kwon arrived? Demario Davis being able to freelance and what not.

I wish Anzalone the best but he simply didn't get it done at the starting LB position. The NFL is a production driven business. If you don't impact the position or make plays, coaches will replace you.

This is big boy football.

Botching that fumble recovery for a touchdown was the nail in the coffin for the coaches - he was on a short leash...

neugey 03-12-2021 11:23 AM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Considering the injury history, he probably overachieved getting as much starts/playing time as he did. Admittedly, linebacker might be the most difficult position in the NFL to excel at consistently. Good luck to him.

Rugby Saint II 03-12-2021 04:11 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
He got benched and it hurt his feelings. I get that. The fact is he never performed up to expectations. I wish him well elsewhere.

Boston Saint 03-12-2021 04:32 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 915980)
I posted a clip of the Ross Tucker/Anzalone interview a few days ago.

Quite frankly, Alex hadn't done enough in the 3+ seasons here. There was a reason the Saints made a trade last season. Notice how much better the defense played when Kwon arrived? Demario Davis being able to freelance and what not.

I wish Anzalone the best but he simply didn't get it done at the starting LB position. The NFL is a production driven business. If you don't impact the position or make plays, coaches will replace you.

This is big boy football.

I’m just hoping Baun isn’t Anzalone 2.0.

SaintFanInATLHELL 03-12-2021 05:06 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 915957)
When Greg Oden felt unwanted by his American team, for very similar reasons to Anzalone, he went to play abroad. This could be a great solution for Anzalone.

Play abroad where? With the shutdown of NFL Europe years ago, I didn't think there were any American football leagues abroad other than the CFL in Canada.

Someone in the NFL will take a chance on Anzalone. There simply are not the options for NFL players that basketball or baseball players have.

SFIAH

ChrisXVI 03-12-2021 05:13 PM

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I’m not going to hate on the guy. It was a great draft pick and he gave us some really great plays. Things don’t always work out. I feel like he would be great in a 3-4 defense... Maybe with the Pats or Giants.

dizzle88 03-12-2021 05:44 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Anzalone had more than enough time to prove he was capable and never did. Sorry your feelings were hurt but this is football, either perform to the standard or move on.

When he couldn't fall on a simple fumble in the endzone, I was ready to see him gone. If he can't fall on a football, what chance did he have as a starting LB.

jeanpierre 03-12-2021 07:41 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916011)
I’m not going to hate on the guy. It was a great draft pick and he gave us some really great plays. Things don’t always work out. I feel like he would be great in a 3-4 defense... Maybe with the Pats or Giants.

And that's a great take on his tour of duty with the Saints...

jeanpierre 03-12-2021 07:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 916013)
Anzalone had more than enough time to prove he was capable and never did. Sorry your feelings were hurt but this is football, either perform to the standard or move on.

When he couldn't fall on a simple fumble in the endzone, I was ready to see him gone. If he can't fall on a football, what chance did he have as a starting LB.

Actually with the injuries and finally getting the right medical advice and procedures, he was healthy; but he did miss a lot of time and it hindered his development...

When you really parse it out, he did have his chances, but they were limited...

jeanpierre 03-12-2021 07:44 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 915976)
What makes you think he wasn’t accepted by his teammates? I wasn’t able to read the Tweet.

Let's just call it a hunch for public discussion purposes...

Rugby Saint II 03-13-2021 11:52 AM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
I hate that he feels unwanted. It's a shame about his injuries but that is the NFL. Maybe he will prosper in a 3-4. I hope he gets the chance to find out.

AsylumGuido 03-13-2021 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 916013)
Anzalone had more than enough time to prove he was capable and never did. Sorry your feelings were hurt but this is football, either perform to the standard or move on.

When he couldn't fall on a simple fumble in the endzone, I was ready to see him gone. If he can't fall on a football, what chance did he have as a starting LB.

Look at that play a few more times. The football is shaped to bounce strangely and the turf has some bounce itself. The player is wearing hard padding. I would like to see you try the same feat ten times running in and diving for the ball from the same angle and at the same speed with the ball rolling away and others going for the ball, as well, and then gain control before you and it travel a few short feet to the bound line. I'll put my money on the under of five and feel REAL confident.

I'm sorry, but I don't blame him at all for that play any more than an outfielder jumping up to try to steal a homerun ball over the fence and having it careen out of his glove as his arm comes down and hits the top of the wall.

dizzle88 03-13-2021 03:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916061)
Look at that play a few more times. The football is shaped to bounce strangely and the turf has some bounce itself. The player is wearing hard padding. I would like to see you try the same feat ten times running in and diving for the ball from the same angle and at the same speed with the ball rolling away and others going for the ball, as well, and then gain control before you and it travel a few short feet to the bound line. I'll put my money on the under of five and feel REAL confident.

I'm sorry, but I don't blame him at all for that play any more than an outfielder jumping up to try to steal a homerun ball over the fence and having it careen out of his glove as his arm comes down and hits the top of the wall.

Ive watched the play multiple times but just did again for peace of mind. When Anzalone is there, the ball is almost at a complete stop.

Not wishing to argue, but all I'm hearing is excuses. These guys get paid millions to play a child's game and then say they feel unwanted lol if you aren't doing your job to the standard, you deserve to get questioned, just like any of us in the outside world would be.

AsylumGuido 03-13-2021 04:01 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 916063)
Ive watched the play multiple times but just did again for peace of mind. When Anzalone is there, the ball is almost at a complete stop.

Not wishing to argue, but all I'm hearing is excuses. These guys get paid millions to play a child's game and then say they feel unwanted lol if you aren't doing your job to the standard, you deserve to get questioned, just like any of us in the outside world would be.

I just watched it again myself (multiple times) and the ball absolutely is not nearly at a complete or even partial stop.


It was still rolling at enough of a pace to roll through the end line itself. He's coming in running at near full speed and dives for the ball. In well over fifty years of watching the NFL I cannot even venture to tell you how many times I have seen these professionals dive for a loose ball and not manage to get it under control. It would have been f'ing awesome had he been able, despite the odds, to gain control of the ball in time, but he didn't. Yet, you are claiming that in the spur of the minute there is no way he should have ever failed to gain control of that ball, right?

Anzalone has never given any excuses, nor has he ever claimed to feel unwanted. Perhaps there were musings by others here in this forum and perhaps some dweeb or two in their mother's basement, but I have heard nothing from him or his camp.

AsylumGuido 03-13-2021 04:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 916046)
I hate that he feels unwanted. It's a shame about his injuries but that is the NFL. Maybe he will prosper in a 3-4. I hope he gets the chance to find out.

What gives you the feeling that he feels unwanted, Rugs? Because someone here that knows no more than you claims it? You know that some of these local mind-readers have been known to be wrong ... like on regular basis.

:D

dizzle88 03-13-2021 05:15 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916064)
I just watched it again myself (multiple times) and the ball absolutely is not nearly at a complete or even partial stop.

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It was still rolling at enough of a pace to roll through the end line itself. He's coming in running at near full speed and dives for the ball. In well over fifty years of watching the NFL I cannot even venture to tell you how many times I have seen these professionals dive for a loose ball and not manage to get it under control. It would have been f'ing awesome had he been able, despite the odds, to gain control of the ball in time, but he didn't. Yet, you are claiming that in the spur of the minute there is no way he should have ever failed to gain control of that ball, right?

Anzalone has never given any excuses, nor has he ever claimed to feel unwanted. Perhaps there were musings by others here in this forum and perhaps some dweeb or two in their mother's basement, but I have heard nothing from him or his camp.

I never said Anzalone was the one making excuses lol

AsylumGuido 03-13-2021 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 916068)
I never said Anzalone was the one making excuses lol

Then what excuses are you referencing? I must be confused.

ChrisXVI 03-13-2021 06:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916065)
What gives you the feeling that he feels unwanted, Rugs? Because someone here that knows no more than you claims it? You know that some of these local mind-readers have been known to be wrong ... like on regular basis.

:D

Anzalone literally said it.

AsylumGuido 03-13-2021 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916071)
Anzalone literally said it.

Show me exactly where he "literally" said it. I'm not talking about some media hack trying to read something into what he said, I am talking where Anzalone said it in your word "literally".

Waiting.


ChrisXVI 03-13-2021 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916075)
Show me exactly where he "literally" said it. I'm not talking about some media hack trying to read something into what he said, I am talking where Anzalone said it in your word "literally".

Waiting.

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I don’t jump through your hoops.

AsylumGuido 03-13-2021 07:52 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916078)
I don’t jump through your hoops.

So, in other words, he never literally said he felt unwanted. In fact, he never really even implied he felt unwanted, right? I'll bet you can't find where he even said that. But, don't waste your time trying to jump through that hoop either.

Don't listen to all the schit that is shared by the internet hacks that hunt for their clicks. You've been jumping through their hoops already. LOL!

The Dude 03-14-2021 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 916065)
What gives you the feeling that he feels unwanted, Rugs? Because someone here that knows no more than you claims it? You know that some of these local mind-readers have been known to be wrong ... like on regular basis.

:D

So have you. On a regular basis. Plus you are a *****.

AsylumGuido 03-14-2021 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 916091)
So have you. On a regular basis. Plus you are a *****.

No. I have been wrong three times. I keep count. By the way, it's strange that the software asterisked out "brain".

dizzle88 03-14-2021 01:08 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Lol this place is hilarious sometimes.

Rugby Saint II 03-14-2021 01:53 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Regardless of how he "feels" he won't be back next year. I hope he "feels" welcome at his next stop.

FinSaint 03-14-2021 02:31 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
His second season was injury free, IIRC, and he played well.

I was very hopeful after that season he'd develop into a really good LB for the Saints, but the injuries caught up to him again the following season.

I think it's mutually beneficial for the Saints and AA to part ways.

rezburna 03-14-2021 05:34 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
I’m cool with him as a back up.

Cruize 03-16-2021 09:50 AM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Average talent. Injury prone. Cut bait and cheer for some new guys.

BakoSaint 03-20-2021 01:16 AM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
No reports of any visits of anything. Maybe he is unwanted by other teams too. Or maybe he is not healthy enough to cover cam cleeland.

SmashMouth 03-20-2021 01:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 916366)
Average talent. Injury prone. Cut bait and cheer for some new guys.

He has a cool name, though.

K Major 03-24-2021 12:17 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Lions signing ex-Saints LB Alex Anzalone to one-year, $1.75M deal (per @MikeGarafolo

dizzle88 03-24-2021 01:29 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Lol what is with Detroit!? Like they are just outside the Saints facility, just scrambling through the trash cans every time.

K Major 03-24-2021 02:03 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Just in case anyone was wondering, no comp picks with Thor.

Oh well :( ...

AsylumGuido 03-24-2021 02:11 PM

Re: Anzalone Feels Unwanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916927)
Just in case anyone was wondering, no comp picks with Thor.

Oh well :( ...

A team is limited to four compensatory picks in a given year. We may have already hit that number for 2022.


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