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I think Winston, with Sean mentoring, may very well set the world on fire. I'm excited.

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I presume that this take is based on your feelings about Winston and nothing to do with playing the position of NFL QB, yes?

SFIAH

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A slower, more indecisive version of Aaron Brooks......yay

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Brees has retired and Russ Wilson isn't an option. JW is on a one year prove it deal & he came cheap. He's good competition for Taysom & the Saints aren't tied to Winston long term.

What's your plan at the QB position for 2021 ?

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It's not rosy, but we have to have someone to take the snaps. We're in no worse shape than the other 3/4ths of the NFL who are hoping to upgrade their QB on an annual basis.

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We'll probably still be looking for another QB next year unfortunately. Maybe not but probably so. I have no faith in Winston until he proves me wrong and I hope he does. I look forward to watching Simien at training camp. You never know....

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Not a 12 million backup

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Mac Jones? or the small school prospect?

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I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120
TD’s already.

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I'm not really a fan either. I really would rather the Saints go for a QB in the draft.

I'll eat crow if I'm wrong, but anyone wasting their money on his jersey or thinking he's gonna take the Saints to the promised land is probably going to be disappointed.

Winston is backup material and an interception machine. Not to mention...he seems kind of dumb. And not like the Alvin Mack type of dumb from "The Program."

Yeah he has a cannon, but it's not like he didn't have receivers in TB.

Guess we'll see. Maybe I'll have crow etouffee next season.

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Mac at pick #28? Not for me.

I'll ask you what scouts ask coaches/GM on scouting today's QB. Do you view movement ability, 2nd reaction ability as a required trait in your system to be successful in this league? And remove Tom Brady from this because he's an outlier.

Mac isn't an athlete, limited in mobility & many coaches view second reaction as critical in their evaluation. If a coach believes second reaction is extremely important ... Mac is probably not a 1st round pick. Look at the 2020 draft ... The Chargers Herbert kid & Burrow check those boxes. Both extremely athletic, has through the chart reaction ability & are high level athletes. I see traits in Trey Lance of 2021 as well.

No hate here but I don't see Mac translating well at the next level. It's a different game & a beast. Especially at QB.

Perspective.

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It's only 5.5 with incentives. If he reaches those incentives, it's well worth it.

And a slower, more indecisive Brooks??? Hahahahaha.....do you even watch football?

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And 90 ints

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Remember Brett Farve? Very similar career paths as far as stats.

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Kurt Warner and Drew Brees comparos... :popcorn:

Maybe as a third rounder?

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Actually, it's $5.5 million PLUS incentives. The incentives total $7 million on their own. Given he had no stats last season the incentives will be classified as "unlikely to be achieved" and won't hit the books until 2022 if he does reach them. Still not bad.

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I have heard Mac Jones being touted as the second best prospect (Charlie Weis) and the best (June Jones). They both know QB's. Both say his accuracy is off the charts (see Drew Brees). His leadership is excellent (see Drew Brees). Weis said in a program like Alabama that is full of alpha males for Jones to be universally accepted by all as their singular leader is a game changer when looking for a QB for the NFL. No, he's not the most athletic, but he isn't a stone statue like Tom Brady, either.

That said, he's not going to be there when we pick at #28 ... unless we package and move up. I wouldn't mind that.

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Being from Florida, my Bucs loving friends are estatic. They endured Winston and can't believe he is the best we could do. Hopefully, he can go to the wizard and get a brain, judgment is not Winston's strong attribute. Maybe he can learn to throw the ball away or take a sack, instead of throwing it to the wrong jersey. We will see. Praying for a solid pick in the draft.


I love the Saints and just hoped for more.

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It ain’t like Drew Brees didn’t throw his fair share now. Peyton Manning and Brett Favre said hello too. Brees didn’t really cut down on his picks until these last four or five years. He saved them for the big moments then.

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As a third rounder I’m with it. As a first? Nah! I want Horn or Moehrig.

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Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy.

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Whoa wow, no chance ah


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Another rookie QB to dominate Payton and Brees , you got it Jamison Winston 2015 thought I’d add that


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I wish he'd stop putting his fingers in his mouth. I have to remind my 3 year old of that.

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It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season.

Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints.

We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season.

I hope for the best

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What other options do you think the Saints front office should have explored based on our current situation as it pertains to the QB position post Brees & cap ? Maybe trade for Minshew? Fig Newton, Marcus Marriota or roll with Taysom? Or push all your chips forward in drafting a QB in the 1st rd of the upcoming draft?

Unfortunately for us Russ Wilson isn't an option in New Orleans.

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Why does everyone expect Winston to have exactly the same type of performance as the last time he was a full time starter? Is it because he's on the same team, with the same coaches, the same offensive line, and the same defense?

It took Brady 3/4 of a season to undo the damage in personnel, scheme, and coaching to turn the pirate ship around. There was lots and lots of bad judgement to spread around in the Bucs organization in 2019.

Payton's offense is predicated on have a multi layered passing game, always with an outlet, and simpler half field reads. It's designed to highlight the strengths of the QB and to minimize the weaknesses.

Winston demonstrated in his short stint in the 2nd half of the SF game that dumping the ball off to Kamara is a smart move that he's capable of pulling off.

So, I severely doubt that the Saints are planning on Winston being in the middle to lower tier of QBs in the NFL.

SFIAH

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As far as talent being lost, there was no way the money offered to T. rex was going to be matched by the Saints, cap or not. Brown, Murray, Jenkins, and Sanders are the ones that hurt most and were most a result of the cap issues. IMO. Let’s see what the team does via draft/signings to address things.

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I hope that we get a comp pick for everyone of those but I realize that there is a limit. So it's a good thing that we can't afford expensive free agents. Yes, I know Brown was traded. One of the places we shine is finding up and coming young players who fit the system or just needs good coaching in a fresh environment.

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Comparing JW to Payton Manning and brees? You finally fell off your rocker

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Compare the beginning of their careers and tell me what you see. Especially when it comes to Brees. Who was calling him a 1st Ballot HOF prospect before he came to the Saints?

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It is easy to be critical from the sidelines and we probably played the best option we had. It is more a criticism of Winston as opposed to criticism of the front office

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I think he learned as much as he could under Brees. I don't think that he doesn't have the talent or the arm I just think he's prone to make a lot of bad judgment calls and I don't think that can be fixed by watching a quarterback like Drew Brees for a year. Obviously, I could be wrong so could any of the detractors but so could all the people who are singing his praise right now.

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Nailed it!:biggun: