The Deep QB Draft

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2021, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Godhell will make a statement and take a third round just to get his points across that this will not be tolerated by the Saints. Everyone else gets off Scott free. Hell, Goodell may give one of the offending teams our draft pick.

To be honest, the Saints were multiple offenders. The Raiders got the same treatment for the same violations.

SmashMouth · 03-08-2021, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kellen Mond ?

Didn't expect him in the top 5 of NFL QB prospects.

Saints Hater Chris Sims' been sniffing glue ever since he couldn't hold his daddy's jock strap. Maybe it affected his brain too as evidenced from his questionable foosball commentary.

SmashMouth · 03-08-2021, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I have no idea what to think of in regards to Mac Jones. Alabama has a pretty poor history of producing pro quarterbacks. They work with so much talent over there that it makes their QB prospects extremely hard to evaluate.

Detractors may argue the same for Burreraux? Nawhhh, it can't be.

neugey · 03-08-2021, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you seriously think there are six or seven starting quality QB's in the draft? Historically there are seldom more than three or four that ever become full-time starters. Usually less than that. Of those three or four only one or two become what could be called "franchise QB's".

I'm expecting Fields, Jones and Mond to be busts or non-factors before long. Lance is a project who if I had to bet, won't pan out. That leaves just Lawrence and Wilson and possibly 1-2 sleepers. I could be way off, but that's what my gut and time watching college ball last year is telling me.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2021, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I'm expecting Fields, Jones and Mond to be busts or non-factors before long. Lance is a project who if I had to bet, won't pan out. That leaves just Lawrence and Wilson and possibly 1-2 sleepers. I could be way off, but that's what my gut and time watching college ball last year is telling me.

Sounds about right. Anyone counting on a savior in the draft at QB is betting on very tiny odds. We may have to draft 20 (edit: okay, maybe 10) to get one as a viable long term starter. Unless we can manage to only win a game or two for few years in a row.

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TheOak · 03-09-2021, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sounds about right. Anyone counting on a savior in the draft at QB is betting on very tiny odds. We may have to draft 20 (edit: okay, maybe 10) to get one as a viable long term starter. Unless we can manage to only win a game or two for few years in a row.

So what’s your plan Guido... What high probability scenario would you recommend?

K Major · 03-09-2021, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I'm expecting Fields, Jones and Mond to be busts or non-factors before long. Lance is a project who if I had to bet, won't pan out. That leaves just Lawrence and Wilson and possibly 1-2 sleepers. I could be way off, but that's what my gut and time watching college ball last year is telling me.

I see what you're saying here on these guys …

For me, I simply believe Mac Jones will struggle at the NFL level. Decent arm, could make all the right throws but this was at Bama. A machine with clean pockets to throw out of. No one will be open in the NFL.

Mac better hope he is selected by a team with a decent to good O line. Otherwise, we could see Burrow (Cincy has the worst O line in football) part II and a torn ACL

. I think Kurt Cousins will be his ceiling at the NFL level in the right system.

No clue on Trevor or Fields but I think Mond is a career back up.

Personally, I hope we go CB, LB or O line at #28. Safer picks IMO.

AsylumGuido · 03-09-2021, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

So what’s your plan Guido... What high probability scenario would you recommend?

Having Brees decide to return would be ideal. Beyond that, the scenarios, in my opinion, are not very rosy. We can retain Taysom Hill as a starter and start taking chances on an annual basis drafting QB's in hope that one of them eventually pans out to be a decent option.

The Dude · 03-09-2021, 02:45 PM

Most fans around here are really high on Jones because he’s an SEC player and they don’t take the time to look at other prospects who are obviously much better. I think Jones had bust written all over him and I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 ft pole. I would honestly rather draft a developmental guy Payton believes in and roll with Winston.

03-08-2021, 01:18 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Godhell will make a statement and take a third round just to get his points across that this will not be tolerated by the Saints. Everyone else gets off Scott free. Hell, Goodell may give one of the offending teams our draft pick. To be honest, the Saints were multiple offenders. The Raiders got the same treatment for the same violations.

03-08-2021, 02:59 PM	#12
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by K Major Kellen Mond ? Didn't expect him in the top 5 of NFL QB prospects. Saints Hater Chris Sims' been sniffing glue ever since he couldn't hold his daddy's jock strap. Maybe it affected his brain too as evidenced from his questionable foosball commentary.

03-08-2021, 03:02 PM	#13
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by papz I have no idea what to think of in regards to Mac Jones. Alabama has a pretty poor history of producing pro quarterbacks. They work with so much talent over there that it makes their QB prospects extremely hard to evaluate. Detractors may argue the same for Burreraux? Nawhhh, it can't be.

03-08-2021, 06:02 PM	#14
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,695 Blog Entries: 13	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you seriously think there are six or seven starting quality QB's in the draft? Historically there are seldom more than three or four that ever become full-time starters. Usually less than that. Of those three or four only one or two become what could be called "franchise QB's". I'm expecting Fields, Jones and Mond to be busts or non-factors before long. Lance is a project who if I had to bet, won't pan out. That leaves just Lawrence and Wilson and possibly 1-2 sleepers. I could be way off, but that's what my gut and time watching college ball last year is telling me.

03-08-2021, 06:10 PM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by neugey I'm expecting Fields, Jones and Mond to be busts or non-factors before long. Lance is a project who if I had to bet, won't pan out. That leaves just Lawrence and Wilson and possibly 1-2 sleepers. I could be way off, but that's what my gut and time watching college ball last year is telling me. Sounds about right. Anyone counting on a savior in the draft at QB is betting on very tiny odds. We may have to draft 20 (edit: okay, maybe 10) to get one as a viable long term starter. Unless we can manage to only win a game or two for few years in a row.

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03-09-2021, 01:03 PM	#17
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sounds about right. Anyone counting on a savior in the draft at QB is betting on very tiny odds. We may have to draft 20 (edit: okay, maybe 10) to get one as a viable long term starter. Unless we can manage to only win a game or two for few years in a row. So what’s your plan Guido... What high probability scenario would you recommend?

03-09-2021, 01:19 PM	#18
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by neugey I'm expecting Fields, Jones and Mond to be busts or non-factors before long. Lance is a project who if I had to bet, won't pan out. That leaves just Lawrence and Wilson and possibly 1-2 sleepers. I could be way off, but that's what my gut and time watching college ball last year is telling me. I see what you're saying here on these guys … For me, I simply believe Mac Jones will struggle at the NFL level. Decent arm, could make all the right throws but this was at Bama. A machine with clean pockets to throw out of. No one will be open in the NFL. Mac better hope he is selected by a team with a decent to good O line. Otherwise, we could see Burrow (Cincy has the worst O line in football) part II and a torn ACL . I think Kurt Cousins will be his ceiling at the NFL level in the right system. No clue on Trevor or Fields but I think Mond is a career back up. Personally, I hope we go CB, LB or O line at #28. Safer picks IMO.
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03-09-2021, 01:44 PM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: The Deep QB Draft Originally Posted by TheOak So what’s your plan Guido... What high probability scenario would you recommend? Having Brees decide to return would be ideal. Beyond that, the scenarios, in my opinion, are not very rosy. We can retain Taysom Hill as a starter and start taking chances on an annual basis drafting QB's in hope that one of them eventually pans out to be a decent option.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: The Deep QB Draft Most fans around here are really high on Jones because he’s an SEC player and they don’t take the time to look at other prospects who are obviously much better. I think Jones had bust written all over him and I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 ft pole. I would honestly rather draft a developmental guy Payton believes in and roll with Winston. neugey likes this.
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