Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

03-15-2021, 09:55 PM

Overpaid and overrated. He will be the highest paid back up in the league unless we use him as trade bait. Might get a rd 5 since his contract is so cheap. Someone tell him to stay out of the seafood markets and he should stay a viable backup.

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2021, 09:59 PM

I heard a point made today on NFL Network while talking about the Saints QB post Brees. They were discussing Winston. They said that if the Saints signed Winston his expectations would be based upon the value of his contract. If it was greater than Hill's he should be expected to be the starter. If it was less then he should be expected to be the backup.

Hill has a guaranteed total salary with bonuses of $12.159 million this season.

Winston has a deal worth "up to" $12 million this season.

I seriously hope Winston does play QB because Taysom's value comes as the hybrid player. Either one is a huge step down from what we have had for the past 15 years.

rezburna · 03-15-2021, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

From a physical talent standpoint there is no question. As far as intelligence and football IQ Winston doesn’t come close. Drew has likely forgotten more about football than Winston knows.

That stated... I like Winston and believe he is the future. With Payton Winston could turn into a great QB, but the beauty is he only needs to be good and we’ll be fine.

You gotta remember, when Winston was coming out of college they were comparing his football IQ to Peyton Manning. Mariucci said he was one of the most astute X’s and O’s guys he had ever seen. His Wonderlic was 1 point shy of both Manning and Brees. If you ask me, we got a steal. Keep that pocket clean and we’re going to the ship.

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WW_Who_Dat · 03-15-2021, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

You gotta remember, when Winston was coming out of college they were comparing his football IQ to Peyton Manning. Mariucci said he was one of the most astute X’s and O’s guys he had ever seen. His Wonderlic was 1 point shy of both Manning and Brees. If you ask me, we got a steal. Keep that pocket clean and we’re going to the ship.

I have been on the same page and liked your analysis rezburna over the years, the exception your position on Brees the past couple of years.. I hope everything you and others have said prasing Winston shows up on the field. Like others have question about judgment and character in the past but if he’s our guy in the huddle I’m pulling for him. I think next season will be a triple e-ticket rollercoaster ride.

lee909 · 03-15-2021, 11:11 PM

A one year deal suits everyone.
If Winston shows he's the guy he get paid next year the real big money. He's bet on himself to succeed and the Saints get to see him without being locked in.

Rsanders24 · 03-15-2021, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

You gotta remember, when Winston was coming out of college they were comparing his football IQ to Peyton Manning. Mariucci said he was one of the most astute X’s and O’s guys he had ever seen. His Wonderlic was 1 point shy of both Manning and Brees. If you ask me, we got a steal. Keep that pocket clean and we’re going to the ship.

This. Now Payton has a QB that can put the ball anywhere on the field and was said to have a very high football IQ. I am very excited to see what he can do with a full year with Payton working with him. The talent is definitely there and it’s one of the reasons I’m against getting rid of Armstead. Let’s stabilize the line and give Winston a fair shot. This is a win-win for us no matter how you look at it.

Boston Saint · 03-15-2021, 11:16 PM

I’ve always been one who’s looked at the upside of Jameis Winston. Sure he has had his problems early in career as many players have, but he has also accomplished a lot more than most players. 5,000 yard passing season. Career 120-90 TD to Int ratio. Yeah he needs ball control skills, but he also got sacked a lot and had different OCs in his 5 year stint at Tampa IIRC.

The dude is a big, strong, First overall Heisman-winning pick. Only 27 and has never had a serious injury. He’s everything Drew Brees isn’t! Get some production from WRs and Trautman and Payton might be like a kid in a candy store again with his play calling. Let’s put it this way, if Payton can help Winston improve half as much as he helped Brees improve, then they will be set at QB!

neugey · 03-16-2021, 06:42 AM

I like that this is a one-year prove-it deal and it frees us up to whatever we see fit to do in the draft (no added pressure of picking a QB unless it's the right guy). Do we still have Simien?

SaintGnome · 03-16-2021, 08:00 AM

Sean in the past made Kerry Collins better, made Quincy Carter into a real QB, and had only one loss without Drew in the last two seasons. I'm intrigued on what he will do post Drew. Taysom has skills, and so does Winston. Let the best man win.

03-15-2021, 09:55 PM	#21
Threaded by voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,751 Rating: (0 votes - average) Overpaid and overrated. He will be the highest paid back up in the league unless we use him as trade bait. Might get a rd 5 since his contract is so cheap. Someone tell him to stay out of the seafood markets and he should stay a viable backup. jnormand likes this.
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03-15-2021, 09:59 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Winston signed I heard a point made today on NFL Network while talking about the Saints QB post Brees. They were discussing Winston. They said that if the Saints signed Winston his expectations would be based upon the value of his contract. If it was greater than Hill's he should be expected to be the starter. If it was less then he should be expected to be the backup. Hill has a guaranteed total salary with bonuses of $12.159 million this season. Winston has a deal worth "up to" $12 million this season. I seriously hope Winston does play QB because Taysom's value comes as the hybrid player. Either one is a huge step down from what we have had for the past 15 years.
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03-15-2021, 10:23 PM	#23
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,679	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by blackangold From a physical talent standpoint there is no question. As far as intelligence and football IQ Winston doesn’t come close. Drew has likely forgotten more about football than Winston knows. That stated... I like Winston and believe he is the future. With Payton Winston could turn into a great QB, but the beauty is he only needs to be good and we’ll be fine. You gotta remember, when Winston was coming out of college they were comparing his football IQ to Peyton Manning. Mariucci said he was one of the most astute X’s and O’s guys he had ever seen. His Wonderlic was 1 point shy of both Manning and Brees. If you ask me, we got a steal. Keep that pocket clean and we’re going to the ship. Rsanders24, ChrisXVI, K Major and 1 others like this.

03-15-2021, 11:09 PM	#25
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,166 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by rezburna You gotta remember, when Winston was coming out of college they were comparing his football IQ to Peyton Manning. Mariucci said he was one of the most astute X’s and O’s guys he had ever seen. His Wonderlic was 1 point shy of both Manning and Brees. If you ask me, we got a steal. Keep that pocket clean and we’re going to the ship. I have been on the same page and liked your analysis rezburna over the years, the exception your position on Brees the past couple of years.. I hope everything you and others have said prasing Winston shows up on the field. Like others have question about judgment and character in the past but if he’s our guy in the huddle I’m pulling for him. I think next season will be a triple e-ticket rollercoaster ride. Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.

03-15-2021, 11:11 PM	#26
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,778 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal A one year deal suits everyone. If Winston shows he's the guy he get paid next year the real big money. He's bet on himself to succeed and the Saints get to see him without being locked in. Rsanders24 and rezburna like this.

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03-15-2021, 11:13 PM	#27
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,474	Re: Winston signed Originally Posted by rezburna You gotta remember, when Winston was coming out of college they were comparing his football IQ to Peyton Manning. Mariucci said he was one of the most astute X’s and O’s guys he had ever seen. His Wonderlic was 1 point shy of both Manning and Brees. If you ask me, we got a steal. Keep that pocket clean and we’re going to the ship. This. Now Payton has a QB that can put the ball anywhere on the field and was said to have a very high football IQ. I am very excited to see what he can do with a full year with Payton working with him. The talent is definitely there and it’s one of the reasons I’m against getting rid of Armstead. Let’s stabilize the line and give Winston a fair shot. This is a win-win for us no matter how you look at it. rezburna likes this.

03-15-2021, 11:16 PM	#28
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,879	Re: Winston signed I’ve always been one who’s looked at the upside of Jameis Winston. Sure he has had his problems early in career as many players have, but he has also accomplished a lot more than most players. 5,000 yard passing season. Career 120-90 TD to Int ratio. Yeah he needs ball control skills, but he also got sacked a lot and had different OCs in his 5 year stint at Tampa IIRC. The dude is a big, strong, First overall Heisman-winning pick. Only 27 and has never had a serious injury. He’s everything Drew Brees isn’t! Get some production from WRs and Trautman and Payton might be like a kid in a candy store again with his play calling. Let’s put it this way, if Payton can help Winston improve half as much as he helped Brees improve, then they will be set at QB! iceshack149, Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.
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03-16-2021, 06:42 AM	#29
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal I like that this is a one-year prove-it deal and it frees us up to whatever we see fit to do in the draft (no added pressure of picking a QB unless it's the right guy). Do we still have Simien? saintsfan1976, Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.

03-16-2021, 08:00 AM	#30
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Sean in the past made Kerry Collins better, made Quincy Carter into a real QB, and had only one loss without Drew in the last two seasons. I'm intrigued on what he will do post Drew. Taysom has skills, and so does Winston. Let the best man win. Rugby Saint II, rezburna and Boston Saint like this.