Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

SmashMouth · 03-16-2021, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Brees has retired and Russ Wilson isn't an option. JW is on a one year prove it deal & he came cheap. He's good competition for Taysom & the Saints aren't tied to Winston long term.

What's your plan at the QB position for 2021 ?

Mac Jones? or the small school prospect (The Deep QB Draft)?

rezburna · 03-16-2021, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mac Jones? or the small school prospect (The Deep QB Draft)?

I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120
TD’s already.

voodooido · 03-16-2021, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120
TD’s already.

And 90 ints

K Major · 03-16-2021, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mac Jones? or the small school prospect (The Deep QB Draft)?

Mac at pick #28? Not for me.

I'll ask you what scouts ask coaches/GM on scouting today's QB. Do you view movement ability, 2nd reaction ability as a required trait in your system to be successful in this league? And remove Tom Brady from this because he's an outlier.

Mac isn't an athlete, limited in mobility & many coaches view second reaction as critical in their evaluation. If a coach believes second reaction is extremely important ... Mac is probably not a 1st round pick. Look at the 2020 draft ... The Chargers Herbert kid & Burrow check those boxes. Both extremely athletic, has through the chart reaction ability & are high level athletes. I see traits in Trey Lance of 2021 as well.

No hate here but I don't see Mac translating well at the next level. It's a different game & a beast. Especially at QB.

Perspective.

SmashMouth · 03-16-2021, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120
TD’s already.

Originally Posted by K Major

Mac at pick #28? Not for me.

I'll ask you what scouts ask coaches/GM on scouting today's QB. Do you view movement ability, 2nd reaction ability as a required trait in your system to be successful in this league? And remove Tom Brady from this because he's an outlier.

Mac isn't an athlete, limited in mobility & many coaches view second reaction as critical in their evaluation. If a coach believes second reaction is extremely important ... Mac is probably not a 1st round pick. Look at the 2020 draft ... The Chargers Herbert kid & Burrow check those boxes. Both extremely athletic, has through the chart reaction ability & are high level athletes. I see traits in Trey Lance of 2021 as well.

No hate here but I don't see Mac translating well at the next level. It's a different game & a beast. Especially at QB.

Perspective.

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Kurt Warner and Drew Brees comparos...

Maybe as a third rounder?

Rugby Saint II · 03-16-2021, 01:56 PM

We'll probably still be looking for another QB next year unfortunately. Maybe not but probably so. I have no faith in Winston until he proves me wrong and I hope he does. I look forward to watching Simien at training camp. You never know....

subguy · 03-16-2021, 06:17 PM

Being from Florida, my Bucs loving friends are estatic. They endured Winston and can't believe he is the best we could do. Hopefully, he can go to the wizard and get a brain, judgment is not Winston's strong attribute. Maybe he can learn to throw the ball away or take a sack, instead of throwing it to the wrong jersey. We will see. Praying for a solid pick in the draft.

I love the Saints and just hoped for more.

The Dude · 03-16-2021, 08:08 PM

Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy.

subguy · 03-17-2021, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy.

It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season.

Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints.

We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season.

I hope for the best

K Major · 03-17-2021, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season.

Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints.

We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season.

I hope for the best

What other options do you think the Saints front office should have explored based on our current situation as it pertains to the QB position post Brees & cap ? Maybe trade for Minshew? Fig Newton, Marcus Marriota or roll with Taysom? Or push all your chips forward in drafting a QB in the 1st rd of the upcoming draft?

Unfortunately for us Russ Wilson isn't an option in New Orleans.

03-16-2021, 03:07 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,813 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by K Major Brees has retired and Russ Wilson isn't an option. JW is on a one year prove it deal & he came cheap. He's good competition for Taysom & the Saints aren't tied to Winston long term. What's your plan at the QB position for 2021 ? Mac Jones? or the small school prospect (The Deep QB Draft)?

03-16-2021, 04:13 PM	#3
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by rezburna I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120 TD’s already. And 90 ints jnormand likes this.
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03-16-2021, 03:44 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mac Jones? or the small school prospect (The Deep QB Draft)? Mac at pick #28? Not for me. I'll ask you what scouts ask coaches/GM on scouting today's QB. Do you view movement ability, 2nd reaction ability as a required trait in your system to be successful in this league? And remove Tom Brady from this because he's an outlier. Mac isn't an athlete, limited in mobility & many coaches view second reaction as critical in their evaluation. If a coach believes second reaction is extremely important ... Mac is probably not a 1st round pick. Look at the 2020 draft ... The Chargers Herbert kid & Burrow check those boxes. Both extremely athletic, has through the chart reaction ability & are high level athletes. I see traits in Trey Lance of 2021 as well. No hate here but I don't see Mac translating well at the next level. It's a different game & a beast. Especially at QB. Perspective.

03-16-2021, 01:56 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal We'll probably still be looking for another QB next year unfortunately. Maybe not but probably so. I have no faith in Winston until he proves me wrong and I hope he does. I look forward to watching Simien at training camp. You never know.... jnormand likes this.

03-16-2021, 06:17 PM	#7
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Being from Florida, my Bucs loving friends are estatic. They endured Winston and can't believe he is the best we could do. Hopefully, he can go to the wizard and get a brain, judgment is not Winston's strong attribute. Maybe he can learn to throw the ball away or take a sack, instead of throwing it to the wrong jersey. We will see. Praying for a solid pick in the draft. I love the Saints and just hoped for more. jnormand likes this.

03-16-2021, 03:11 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mac Jones? or the small school prospect (The Deep QB Draft)? I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120 TD’s already. ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy. Rugby Saint II, OldMaid, gosaints1 and 3 others like this.
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03-17-2021, 05:08 AM	#9
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by The Dude Everyone is hung up on Qb but I’m more worried about filling the holes we have on our roster. It doesn’t matter who the Qb is if our defense goes to ****, we saw that with Brees when he was in his prime. Roll with Winston and start filling holes so if we do happen to hit on a franchise Qb in the next few years he has a team around him. If that guy is Winston I’m all for it, if not at least there will be some young talent on the roster to help out the next guy. It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season. Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints. We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season. I hope for the best
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03-17-2021, 10:07 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal Originally Posted by subguy It certailnly is concerning to watch our D be dismantled as it is this off-season. Now that you now have signed 30/30 at QB, since you plan on him being lower to middle of the pack, there has to be some other focus or plan for the Saints. We just lost a team leader, a 70% completion QB that was able to help make up the delta of weak defenses over the years. You don't have that luxury with Winston. If he can't correct, bad judgment in the check down, it will be a long season. I hope for the best What other options do you think the Saints front office should have explored based on our current situation as it pertains to the QB position post Brees & cap ? Maybe trade for Minshew? Fig Newton, Marcus Marriota or roll with Taysom? Or push all your chips forward in drafting a QB in the 1st rd of the upcoming draft? Unfortunately for us Russ Wilson isn't an option in New Orleans. Boston Saint likes this.