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Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Brees has retired and Russ Wilson isn't an option. JW is on a one year prove it deal & he came cheap . He's good competition for Taysom & the Saints aren't tied to Winston ...

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Old 03-16-2021, 03:07 PM   #1
 
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Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

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Brees has retired and Russ Wilson isn't an option. JW is on a one year prove it deal & he came cheap. He's good competition for Taysom & the Saints aren't tied to Winston long term.

What's your plan at the QB position for 2021 ?
Mac Jones? or the small school prospect (The Deep QB Draft)?
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I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120
TD’s already.
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Old 03-16-2021, 04:13 PM   #3
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I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120
TD’s already.
And 90 ints
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And 90 ints
Remember Brett Farve? Very similar career paths as far as stats.
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Remember Brett Farve? Very similar career paths as far as stats.
It ain’t like Drew Brees didn’t throw his fair share now. Peyton Manning and Brett Favre said hello too. Brees didn’t really cut down on his picks until these last four or five years. He saved them for the big moments then.
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It ain’t like Drew Brees didn’t throw his fair share now. Peyton Manning and Brett Favre said hello too. Brees didn’t really cut down on his picks until these last four or five years. He saved them for the big moments then.
Comparing JW to Payton Manning and brees? You finally fell off your rocker
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Comparing JW to Payton Manning and brees? You finally fell off your rocker
Compare the beginning of their careers and tell me what you see. Especially when it comes to Brees. Who was calling him a 1st Ballot HOF prospect before he came to the Saints?
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Mac at pick #28? Not for me.

I'll ask you what scouts ask coaches/GM on scouting today's QB. Do you view movement ability, 2nd reaction ability as a required trait in your system to be successful in this league? And remove Tom Brady from this because he's an outlier.

Mac isn't an athlete, limited in mobility & many coaches view second reaction as critical in their evaluation. If a coach believes second reaction is extremely important ... Mac is probably not a 1st round pick. Look at the 2020 draft ... The Chargers Herbert kid & Burrow check those boxes. Both extremely athletic, has through the chart reaction ability & are high level athletes. I see traits in Trey Lance of 2021 as well.

No hate here but I don't see Mac translating well at the next level. It's a different game & a beast. Especially at QB.

Perspective.
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Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

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I don’t believe in Mac Jones at all. Gimme the guy with 120
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Mac at pick #28? Not for me.

I'll ask you what scouts ask coaches/GM on scouting today's QB. Do you view movement ability, 2nd reaction ability as a required trait in your system to be successful in this league? And remove Tom Brady from this because he's an outlier.

Mac isn't an athlete, limited in mobility & many coaches view second reaction as critical in their evaluation. If a coach believes second reaction is extremely important ... Mac is probably not a 1st round pick. Look at the 2020 draft ... The Chargers Herbert kid & Burrow check those boxes. Both extremely athletic, has through the chart reaction ability & are high level athletes. I see traits in Trey Lance of 2021 as well.

No hate here but I don't see Mac translating well at the next level. It's a different game & a beast. Especially at QB.

Perspective.



Kurt Warner and Drew Brees comparos...

Maybe as a third rounder?
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Re: Saints and Jameis Winston reach an agreement on a 1-year deal

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Kurt Warner and Drew Brees comparos...

Maybe as a third rounder?
I have heard Mac Jones being touted as the second best prospect (Charlie Weis) and the best (June Jones). They both know QB's. Both say his accuracy is off the charts (see Drew Brees). His leadership is excellent (see Drew Brees). Weis said in a program like Alabama that is full of alpha males for Jones to be universally accepted by all as their singular leader is a game changer when looking for a QB for the NFL. No, he's not the most athletic, but he isn't a stone statue like Tom Brady, either.

That said, he's not going to be there when we pick at #28 ... unless we package and move up. I wouldn't mind that.

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