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shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 12:23 PM

Niners trade with Miami move up to #3
 
Dolphins trading No. 3 overall pick to the San Francisco 49ers for the No. 12 pick, a 2021 third-round pick (SF’s comp pick for Robert Saleh hiring) and first-round picks in 2022 and 2023, per sources.

Not sure it belongs here, but very interesting.

shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 12:26 PM

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There's a really good chance picks 1-4 are QB. Will be the first time it's ever happened. Picks 1-3 have been QB twice......in '71 and '99.

I'm guessing 1-3 will be:

Lawrence
Wilson
Lance

ChrisXVI 03-26-2021 12:28 PM

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Dolphins will have two first round picks for the next three drafts. Incredible.

shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 12:35 PM

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And now the Dolphins just traded with Philly from 12 to 6.

shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 12:36 PM

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They have to be targeting Pitts or Waddle/Smith.

BakoSaint 03-26-2021 01:56 PM

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This is a really weird trade because its #3 not #1 or #2, and they made it way in advance where teams can possibly figure out who they are targeting and jump them or force them to trade more to move up further. They have to love all of the top 3-4 players on their board almost equally. With so much time, there is also a risk that if they love their top 3, one of those 3 could have an issue between now and the draft with misconduct or injury etc and slide, and then they better love their top 4. It just seems so much safer to make this trade closer to the draft, on the clock, or to find a way to get to #1 or #2.

shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 917113)
This is a really weird trade because its #3 not #1 or #2, and they made it way in advance where teams can possibly figure out who they are targeting and jump them or force them to trade more to move up further. They have to love all of the top 3-4 players on their board almost equally. With so much time, there is also a risk that if they love their top 3, one of those 3 could have an issue between now and the draft with misconduct or injury etc and slide, and then they better love their top 4. It just seems so much safer to make this trade closer to the draft, on the clock, or to find a way to get to #1 or #2.

I'm no GM, but it appears they have 2 guys ranked equally after Lawrence and are happy with either. I'm going on record to assume that they love Lance. He would fit the Shanahan QB profile just like RG3 back in the day.

ChrisXVI 03-26-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 917114)
I'm no GM, but it appears they have 2 guys ranked equally after Lawrence and are happy with either. I'm going on record to assume that they love Lance. He would fit the Shanahan QB profile just like RG3 back in the day.

I get it, but that’s an insane gamble giving up that draft capital for such an inexperienced QB in Trey Lance.

K Major 03-26-2021 02:11 PM

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Jamar Chase :p

shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917116)
Jamar Chase :p

He or Pitts will be a Dolphin at 6. Bank on it.

shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917115)
I get it, but that’s an insane gamble giving up that draft capital for such an inexperienced QB in Trey Lance.

I agree. But I bet it happens. The way the hype is going, Lance's stock is on the rise. Not much talk of Fields these days. I could see him dropping.

ChrisXVI 03-26-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 917118)
I agree. But I bet it happens. The way the hype is going, Lance's stock is on the rise. Not much talk of Fields these days. I could see him dropping.

Honestly, the fact that there isn’t much Fields talk these days makes him seem boring in the eyes of football fans... but not to GM’s. Hype is fan driven. Teams know who they want. It’s like when mock drafter’s get bored mocking Lawrence to the Jags so they try to justify Wilson at #1. If I were a betting man I’d say the 49ers have their eyes on Justin Fields.

K Major 03-26-2021 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 917118)
I agree. But I bet it happens. The way the hype is going, Lance's stock is on the rise. Not much talk of Fields these days. I could see him dropping.

Small school or not, Lance has that "it" factor. In the right system, I think he could become a very good NFL QB. Fields is kind of meh for me and I'm not sold on Trevor or Mac J.

shawnkytonk 03-26-2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917122)
Small school or not, Lance has that "it" factor. In the right system, I think he could become a very good NFL QB. Fields is kind of meh for me and I'm not sold on Trevor or Mac J.

Not sold on Trevor? I've seen a few say this. It kinda blows my mind. He's by far the best QB prospect since Luck. Before that it was Elway.

Rugby Saint II 03-26-2021 05:33 PM

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They sure were wheelin' and dealin'.

BakoSaint 03-26-2021 06:09 PM

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I think that when you commit to any of 3 players being your franchise QB a month before the draft, and your have the leftover of those 3 players at #3 overall, you risk a lot if any of the following happens to any of those 3 players in the next month:

poor combine or pro day workout
positive drug test
criminal incident
bad wonderlic test
bad interviews
DUI
public relations incident that would alienate your fanbase
injury during workouts or extracurricular activity
sexual midconduct allegation
past health issue flagging in medical review
etc etc etc

One move that would be hilarious would be if the 49ers, having done this trade early, turn around and trade back in the draft and don't take a QB. I have never seen a team do this, but in theory if you trade away all your own future first round picks, and then turn around and trade for other teams first round picks, it would be like you are leveraging and betting on your own future. I would love for us to trade Saints 2022 and 2023 1st round picks for Falcons 2022 and 2023 1st round picks.

Utah_Saint 03-26-2021 06:48 PM

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I read the 9ers are convinced Atlanta will pick a QB so they wanted to get ahead of them. Maybe on the 9er's board there are only 3 QBs worth a shot.


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