Sam Darnold... should we?

cmike · 10-17-2021, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Sorry cmike, can’t agree with your horse racing/dog fighting take at all. Yes, injured horses are put down, but that’s hardly the same. We can start with the fact that one is legal, one isn’t. Horses, for the most part, are not hurt by racing them (they run all the time in pastures). Dogs are designed to be hurt by fighting them. There were stories of drowning and electrocuting dogs that did not meet standards at Vick’s place. That is not done to horses. Your comparison is like saying a fight between two professional boxers is the same as a bully beating the crap out of a weaker kid in a school bathroom.

Legality shouldn’t be the measuring stick. It’s people being entertained by a sport where animals are injured due to humans being entertained. Cannabis is legal in most states and not in some. Imagine being a inmate in Alabama on a Weed possession charge. That’s gotta suck.
Imagine being a Saint fan and your team and coach get penalized by a program that the entire league practices.
Horses are breed to be ran. Ain’t nobody breeding pitbulls to be family pets.

LEGAL. Alcohol prohibition never ended. The courts just stopped enforcing penalties and it forced the laws to be changed.

Dog fighting is wrong.

Boston Saint · 10-17-2021, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

Legality shouldn’t be the measuring stick. It’s people being entertained by a sport where animals are injured due to humans being entertained. Cannabis is legal in most states and not in some. Imagine being a inmate in Alabama on a Weed possession charge. That’s gotta suck.
Imagine being a Saint fan and your team and coach get penalized by a program that the entire league practices.
Horses are breed to be ran. Ain’t nobody breeding pitbulls to be family pets.

LEGAL. Alcohol prohibition never ended. The courts just stopped enforcing penalties and it forced the laws to be changed.

Dog fighting is wrong.

Well, legality was only one of the issues I brought up with your comparison. The main issues were one is an entertainment where the animals are guaranteed to get hurt and one is a remote possibility of getting hurt. And in vick’s case his animals were tortured with electrocution and drowning...racehorses are not. Although that does fit into the legality of the two “sports” as well.

cmike · 10-17-2021, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Well, legality was only one of the issues I brought up with your comparison. The main issues were one is an entertainment where the animals are guaranteed to get hurt and one is a remote possibility of getting hurt. And in vick’s case his animals were tortured with electrocution and drowning...racehorses are not. Although that does fit into the legality of the two “sports” as well.

Vick was wrong. He didn’t stop what he participated in and continued to allow it to happen. I served 8 years in the military special forces. A lot of families suffered by me following orders.

Death is Death. Ain’t no coming back from Dat.

Who Dat

iceshack149 · 10-17-2021, 11:43 AM

Darnold had a weird start to his rookie season. Since he plays for the enemy, I'll have to come up with an appropriate nickname for him.
Sixth Sense Sam seems appropriate but like his spleen the name is too big.

A timeline of Sam Darnold’s increasingly weird injuries

Weeks 3 and 5: The QB misses two more games due to his spleen enlarging from the mono
Week 7: Darnold loses a toenail against the New England Patriots

(This was the game that Darnold told the press that he was seeing ghosts on the field)

Week 8: Darnold sprains his thumb against the Jacksonville Jaguars
Things didn’t get much better for Darnold the following week against Jacksonville. He threw for 218 yards and three interceptions in a 29-15 loss, and he was epically trolled by Jags fans for his seeing ghosts comment.

(The Jaguars played Ghostbusters on the PA throughout the game)

AsylumGuido · 10-17-2021, 12:05 PM

LOL! Darnold throws a pick his first pass against the Vikings.

Boston Saint · 10-17-2021, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

Death is Death. Ain’t no coming back from Dat.

Who Dat

This is a true. Thanks for your service BTW.

Cruize · 10-17-2021, 01:28 PM

Tua.

Lord_Saint83 · 10-17-2021, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

LOL! Darnold throws a pick his first pass against the Vikings.

Same old Darnold

K Major · 10-17-2021, 03:47 PM

Panthers took an L.

SmashMouth · 10-18-2021, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

As for Sam Darnold ...

Some Panther faithful are starting to accept him for who he is. An average NFL QB. 5 ints in 2 weeks is awful. He's facing a decent Minnesota defensive line today.

Go Vikes!

The more film there is to review...

10-17-2021, 11:01 AM	#51
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Sorry cmike, can’t agree with your horse racing/dog fighting take at all. Yes, injured horses are put down, but that’s hardly the same. We can start with the fact that one is legal, one isn’t. Horses, for the most part, are not hurt by racing them (they run all the time in pastures). Dogs are designed to be hurt by fighting them. There were stories of drowning and electrocuting dogs that did not meet standards at Vick’s place. That is not done to horses. Your comparison is like saying a fight between two professional boxers is the same as a bully beating the crap out of a weaker kid in a school bathroom. Legality shouldn’t be the measuring stick. It’s people being entertained by a sport where animals are injured due to humans being entertained. Cannabis is legal in most states and not in some. Imagine being a inmate in Alabama on a Weed possession charge. That’s gotta suck. Imagine being a Saint fan and your team and coach get penalized by a program that the entire league practices. Horses are breed to be ran. Ain’t nobody breeding pitbulls to be family pets. LEGAL. Alcohol prohibition never ended. The courts just stopped enforcing penalties and it forced the laws to be changed. Dog fighting is wrong.

10-17-2021, 11:08 AM	#52
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? Originally Posted by cmike Legality shouldn’t be the measuring stick. It’s people being entertained by a sport where animals are injured due to humans being entertained. Cannabis is legal in most states and not in some. Imagine being a inmate in Alabama on a Weed possession charge. That’s gotta suck. Imagine being a Saint fan and your team and coach get penalized by a program that the entire league practices. Horses are breed to be ran. Ain’t nobody breeding pitbulls to be family pets. LEGAL. Alcohol prohibition never ended. The courts just stopped enforcing penalties and it forced the laws to be changed. Dog fighting is wrong. Well, legality was only one of the issues I brought up with your comparison. The main issues were one is an entertainment where the animals are guaranteed to get hurt and one is a remote possibility of getting hurt. And in vick’s case his animals were tortured with electrocution and drowning...racehorses are not. Although that does fit into the legality of the two “sports” as well.

10-17-2021, 11:23 AM	#53
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Well, legality was only one of the issues I brought up with your comparison. The main issues were one is an entertainment where the animals are guaranteed to get hurt and one is a remote possibility of getting hurt. And in vick’s case his animals were tortured with electrocution and drowning...racehorses are not. Although that does fit into the legality of the two “sports” as well. Vick was wrong. He didn’t stop what he participated in and continued to allow it to happen. I served 8 years in the military special forces. A lot of families suffered by me following orders. Death is Death. Ain’t no coming back from Dat. Who Dat

10-17-2021, 11:43 AM	#54
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,092 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? Darnold had a weird start to his rookie season. Since he plays for the enemy, I'll have to come up with an appropriate nickname for him. Sixth Sense Sam seems appropriate but like his spleen the name is too big. A timeline of Sam Darnold’s increasingly weird injuries Weeks 3 and 5: The QB misses two more games due to his spleen enlarging from the mono Week 7: Darnold loses a toenail against the New England Patriots (This was the game that Darnold told the press that he was seeing ghosts on the field) Week 8: Darnold sprains his thumb against the Jacksonville Jaguars Things didn’t get much better for Darnold the following week against Jacksonville. He threw for 218 yards and three interceptions in a 29-15 loss, and he was epically trolled by Jags fans for his seeing ghosts comment. (The Jaguars played Ghostbusters on the PA throughout the game)

10-17-2021, 12:05 PM	#55
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? LOL! Darnold throws a pick his first pass against the Vikings. Lord_Saint83 likes this.

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10-17-2021, 12:07 PM	#56
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? Originally Posted by cmike Death is Death. Ain’t no coming back from Dat. Who Dat This is a true. Thanks for your service BTW.

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10-17-2021, 01:39 PM	#58
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido LOL! Darnold throws a pick his first pass against the Vikings. Same old Darnold

10-17-2021, 03:47 PM	#59
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10-18-2021, 10:33 AM	#60
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,012 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Sam Darnold... should we? Originally Posted by K Major As for Sam Darnold ... Some Panther faithful are starting to accept him for who he is. An average NFL QB. 5 ints in 2 weeks is awful. He's facing a decent Minnesota defensive line today. Go Vikes! The more film there is to review...