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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by cmike Vick fought dogs, NO. What Mike did was allowed dog fighting to happen on property that he owned. Which is wrong. Mike kept his mouth closed to a lot of high profile people that also participated ...

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Old 10-17-2021, 10:33 AM   #1
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Vick fought dogs, NO. What Mike did was allowed dog fighting to happen on property that he owned. Which is wrong. Mike kept his mouth closed to a lot of high profile people that also participated in dog fighting and fell on the sword solo. Remember when people came out and defended Vick e.g Clinton Portis and said “ that’s what we do in the hood”. As soon as things got serious, meaning jail time, no one said anything. Vick took the fall and didn’t name names.
The Queen of England races horses. When one is injured what do they do, Death is the solution. Death is Death, no matter how you get there.
The only difference in dog fighting and horse racing is a do-rag vs a fancy hat. Animals suffering at the pleasure of humans.
REMEMBER before I’m torn apart, I did say dog fighting is wrong.

This is the same as Bountygate vs the Eagle’s Gopher program.
Sorry cmike, can’t agree with your horse racing/dog fighting take at all. Yes, injured horses are put down, but that’s hardly the same. We can start with the fact that one is legal, one isn’t. Horses, for the most part, are not hurt by racing them (they run all the time in pastures). Dogs are designed to be hurt by fighting them. There were stories of drowning and electrocuting dogs that did not meet standards at Vick’s place. That is not done to horses. Your comparison is like saying a fight between two professional boxers is the same as a bully beating the crap out of a weaker kid in a school bathroom.

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Old 10-17-2021, 11:01 AM   #2
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Sorry cmike, can’t agree with your horse racing/dog fighting take at all. Yes, injured horses are put down, but that’s hardly the same. We can start with the fact that one is legal, one isn’t. Horses, for the most part, are not hurt by racing them (they run all the time in pastures). Dogs are designed to be hurt by fighting them. There were stories of drowning and electrocuting dogs that did not meet standards at Vick’s place. That is not done to horses. Your comparison is like saying a fight between two professional boxers is the same as a bully beating the crap out of a weaker kid in a school bathroom.


Legality shouldn’t be the measuring stick. It’s people being entertained by a sport where animals are injured due to humans being entertained. Cannabis is legal in most states and not in some. Imagine being a inmate in Alabama on a Weed possession charge. That’s gotta suck.
Imagine being a Saint fan and your team and coach get penalized by a program that the entire league practices.
Horses are breed to be ran. Ain’t nobody breeding pitbulls to be family pets.

LEGAL. Alcohol prohibition never ended. The courts just stopped enforcing penalties and it forced the laws to be changed.

Dog fighting is wrong.
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Old 10-17-2021, 11:08 AM   #3
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Legality shouldn’t be the measuring stick. It’s people being entertained by a sport where animals are injured due to humans being entertained. Cannabis is legal in most states and not in some. Imagine being a inmate in Alabama on a Weed possession charge. That’s gotta suck.
Imagine being a Saint fan and your team and coach get penalized by a program that the entire league practices.
Horses are breed to be ran. Ain’t nobody breeding pitbulls to be family pets.

LEGAL. Alcohol prohibition never ended. The courts just stopped enforcing penalties and it forced the laws to be changed.

Dog fighting is wrong.
Well, legality was only one of the issues I brought up with your comparison. The main issues were one is an entertainment where the animals are guaranteed to get hurt and one is a remote possibility of getting hurt. And in vick’s case his animals were tortured with electrocution and drowning...racehorses are not. Although that does fit into the legality of the two “sports” as well.
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Old 10-17-2021, 11:23 AM   #4
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Well, legality was only one of the issues I brought up with your comparison. The main issues were one is an entertainment where the animals are guaranteed to get hurt and one is a remote possibility of getting hurt. And in vick’s case his animals were tortured with electrocution and drowning...racehorses are not. Although that does fit into the legality of the two “sports” as well.
Vick was wrong. He didn’t stop what he participated in and continued to allow it to happen. I served 8 years in the military special forces. A lot of families suffered by me following orders.

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Old 10-17-2021, 12:07 PM   #5
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Death is Death. Ain’t no coming back from Dat.

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This is a true. Thanks for your service BTW.
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Darnold had a weird start to his rookie season. Since he plays for the enemy, I'll have to come up with an appropriate nickname for him.
Sixth Sense Sam seems appropriate but like his spleen the name is too big.
A timeline of Sam Darnold’s increasingly weird injuries

Weeks 3 and 5: The QB misses two more games due to his spleen enlarging from the mono
Week 7: Darnold loses a toenail against the New England Patriots
(This was the game that Darnold told the press that he was seeing ghosts on the field)
Week 8: Darnold sprains his thumb against the Jacksonville Jaguars
Things didn’t get much better for Darnold the following week against Jacksonville. He threw for 218 yards and three interceptions in a 29-15 loss, and he was epically trolled by Jags fans for his seeing ghosts comment.
(The Jaguars played Ghostbusters on the PA throughout the game)
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LOL! Darnold throws a pick his first pass against the Vikings.
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LOL! Darnold throws a pick his first pass against the Vikings.


Same old Darnold
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