Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total

voodooido · 04-05-2021, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Glad to know you’re on his side

If that was meant for me I am in no way pulling against JW. I’m just not drinking the koolaid. The dude is 2nd string at best

SmashMouth · 04-05-2021, 09:19 PM

Did we forget, WhoDats, that we are 8-1 with our backup QBs the past two years?

lee909 · 04-05-2021, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Did we forget, WhoDats, that we are 8-1 with our backup QBs the past two years?

Yeah but that team also had Rankins,Hendrickson,JackRabbit etc

As it stands right now

WR 2 Tre'Quan Smith
CB 2 Patrick Robinson

Then look at the 3rd string LB,DE and DT

This isn't the roster of the past 3 or 4 years.
Plenty of time to add some pieces but its not like there is a big pit of money to do it with.

Boston Saint · 04-05-2021, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

If that was meant for me I am in no way pulling against JW. I’m just not drinking the koolaid. The dude is 2nd string at best

BS. Your attitude and statements towards him make it clear you do not want him to succeed.

jnormand · 04-05-2021, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

BS. Your attitude and statements towards him make it clear you do not want him to succeed.

It's just his opinion. JW has to prove it. I'm not a believer in him right now either. The guy is an interception machine and doesn't seem very intelligent.

Why would he not want him to succeed?

I'll tell you this, I've never been a fan of the guy. Ever. Big deal.

But if he comes in and tears it up, I'll eat crow. But imo, if the front office saw something more in him, he'd have a bigger contract. Not a 1 year prove it deal.

Just my 2 cents.

WW_Who_Dat · 04-06-2021, 01:33 AM

Yep JW is a turnover machine last season ... Throwing the ball ... Taysom is fumbling machine ... Which one wins out?

blackangold · 04-06-2021, 07:47 AM

It all depends on the draft. We have enough picks to improve the team, they need to be used wisely.

Good draft- 11-6
Average or poor draft- 6-11

Surprisingly, our defense is the biggest concern.

Boston Saint · 04-06-2021, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

It's just his opinion. JW has to prove it. I'm not a believer in him right now either. The guy is an interception machine and doesn't seem very intelligent.

Why would he not want him to succeed?

I'll tell you this, I've never been a fan of the guy. Ever. Big deal.

But if he comes in and tears it up, I'll eat crow. But imo, if the front office saw something more in him, he'd have a bigger contract. Not a 1 year prove it deal.

Just my 2 cents.

I have no problem with doubting Winston. I doubt him too. But VD has gone way overboard in his criticism IMO. He’s exaggerated Winston’s turnovers, falsely claimed he was benched for Hill, makes hyperbolic statements about going undefeated and ignores any valid statistical observation about his performance when compared to other QBs. Doubting is one thing, blindly repeating “he sucks” with no other input is a personal grudge.

MatthewT · 04-06-2021, 07:54 AM

What scares me even more than not having Drew Brees behind center is the significant chances of having to start the season with Patrick Robinson and PJ Williams as the starting CB's.

rezburna · 04-06-2021, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

What scares me even more than not having Drew Brees behind center is the significant chances of having to start the season with Patrick Robinson and PJ Williams as the starting CB's.

Casey Hayward
Richard Sherman
A.J. Bouye

Three viable, veteran options at CB still available because of their age. They’re all around the same age as Jackrabbit.

Gareon Conley is still available seeing how Payton loves Ohio State DB’s. Dre Kirkpatrick and Artie Burns as well.

There are options. I’m positive we sign one of these guys and draft a cornerback in the draft.

Also...don’t discount Kwon Alexander returning on a 1 year, prove it deal following his injury to fill the whole at LB.

04-05-2021, 09:11 PM	#11
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by Boston Saint Glad to know you’re on his side If that was meant for me I am in no way pulling against JW. I’m just not drinking the koolaid. The dude is 2nd string at best subguy and jnormand like this.
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04-05-2021, 09:19 PM	#12
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,127 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Did we forget, WhoDats, that we are 8-1 with our backup QBs the past two years? jnormand likes this.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by SmashMouth Did we forget, WhoDats, that we are 8-1 with our backup QBs the past two years? Yeah but that team also had Rankins,Hendrickson,JackRabbit etc As it stands right now WR 2 Tre'Quan Smith CB 2 Patrick Robinson Then look at the 3rd string LB,DE and DT This isn't the roster of the past 3 or 4 years. Plenty of time to add some pieces but its not like there is a big pit of money to do it with.

04-05-2021, 11:01 PM	#14
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by voodooido If that was meant for me I am in no way pulling against JW. I’m just not drinking the koolaid. The dude is 2nd string at best BS. Your attitude and statements towards him make it clear you do not want him to succeed.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by Boston Saint BS. Your attitude and statements towards him make it clear you do not want him to succeed. It's just his opinion. JW has to prove it. I'm not a believer in him right now either. The guy is an interception machine and doesn't seem very intelligent. Why would he not want him to succeed? I'll tell you this, I've never been a fan of the guy. Ever. Big deal. But if he comes in and tears it up, I'll eat crow. But imo, if the front office saw something more in him, he'd have a bigger contract. Not a 1 year prove it deal. Just my 2 cents. subguy, Rugby Saint II, voodooido and 1 others like this.

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Yep JW is a turnover machine last season ... Throwing the ball ... Taysom is fumbling machine ... Which one wins out? jnormand likes this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total It all depends on the draft. We have enough picks to improve the team, they need to be used wisely. Good draft- 11-6 Average or poor draft- 6-11 Surprisingly, our defense is the biggest concern. 73Saint and Boston Saint like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by jnormand It's just his opinion. JW has to prove it. I'm not a believer in him right now either. The guy is an interception machine and doesn't seem very intelligent. Why would he not want him to succeed? I'll tell you this, I've never been a fan of the guy. Ever. Big deal. But if he comes in and tears it up, I'll eat crow. But imo, if the front office saw something more in him, he'd have a bigger contract. Not a 1 year prove it deal. Just my 2 cents. I have no problem with doubting Winston. I doubt him too. But VD has gone way overboard in his criticism IMO. He’s exaggerated Winston’s turnovers, falsely claimed he was benched for Hill, makes hyperbolic statements about going undefeated and ignores any valid statistical observation about his performance when compared to other QBs. Doubting is one thing, blindly repeating “he sucks” with no other input is a personal grudge. K Major and rezburna like this.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total What scares me even more than not having Drew Brees behind center is the significant chances of having to start the season with Patrick Robinson and PJ Williams as the starting CB's. jnormand, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Saints have a surprisingly low projected 2021 win total Originally Posted by MatthewT What scares me even more than not having Drew Brees behind center is the significant chances of having to start the season with Patrick Robinson and PJ Williams as the starting CB's. Casey Hayward Richard Sherman A.J. Bouye Three viable, veteran options at CB still available because of their age. They’re all around the same age as Jackrabbit. Gareon Conley is still available seeing how Payton loves Ohio State DB’s. Dre Kirkpatrick and Artie Burns as well. There are options. I’m positive we sign one of these guys and draft a cornerback in the draft. Also...don’t discount Kwon Alexander returning on a 1 year, prove it deal following his injury to fill the whole at LB. MatthewT, SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.