PFF Draft Simulator

Boston Saint · 04-08-2021, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I just don't get the pre-draft hype. Nobody other than those making the picks have any impact on who is actually taken by whom. I am as excited as the next person, however, during our picks of the actual draft just to see who we get. At that point I learn as much as possible about that player. I don't really expect, however, any true determination of the value of the player picked until at least two or three years down the road. If they prove their worth earlier, great! That's why I see draft grades as totally meaningless. That appears to be the feeling of many so-called experts in the field, as well, even as they give grades as directed.

I, of course, know the importance of the draft to the success of a team. I also know that the speculations of fans has zero impact on that degree of success. But, as I have mentioned before, some of y'all get a kick out of playing the guessing game. It's just not my cup of tea. With no prior expectations I am never disappointed with the draft.

You say you are gluten for everyday football 😝, yet you don’t get the draft hype. Strange.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2021, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You say you are gluten for everyday football 😝, yet you don’t get the draft hype. Strange.

I love the draft itself. It's when you find out who your potential new players might be. I'll be glued to the TV watching for each of our picks. What I don't get is the desire to try to make the picks yourself. ie. the mock drafts and such. With a little patience you'll know come draft day.

I'll do mock drafts for fantasy football trying to gauge what others might do because I am the one that is going to be doing the actual drafting when the time comes. I just don't get what is gained from mocking the rookie draft. The only thing I ever see from it is a bunch of fans getting pissed off because real teams didn't pick who the fans wanted them to pick. I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment.

Can y'all honestly explain to me what is gained by researching all of these college players and then setting your expectations up to be shot down. What is the appeal?

Boston Saint · 04-08-2021, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I love the draft itself. It's when you find out who your potential new players might be. I'll be glued to the TV watching for each of our picks. What I don't get is the desire to try to make the picks yourself. ie. the mock drafts and such. With a little patience you'll know come draft day.

I'll do mock drafts for fantasy football trying to gauge what others might do because I am the one that is going to be doing the actual drafting when the time comes. I just don't get what is gained from mocking the rookie draft. The only thing I ever see from it is a bunch of fans getting pissed off because real teams didn't pick who the fans wanted them to pick. I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment.

Can y'all honestly explain to me what is gained by researching all of these college players and then setting your expectations up to be shot down. What is the appeal?

What’s the appeal of bragging about never being wrong about something you don’t participate in ?

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2021, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

What’s the appeal of bragging about never being wrong about something you don’t participate in ?

What is there to be right or wrong about? What's the appeal? What is it I am missing? I absolutely get the appeal of the actual real draft.

I've asked this in the past but never really got an answer. What's the attraction in trying to figure out who you think your team might pick when you can simply wait and see? I'm looking for serious answers. What is the motivation?

And boasting about never being wrong about draft picks is an attempt at humor.

MarchingOn · 04-08-2021, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I love the draft itself. It's when you find out who your potential new players might be. I'll be glued to the TV watching for each of our picks. What I don't get is the desire to try to make the picks yourself. ie. the mock drafts and such. With a little patience you'll know come draft day.

I'll do mock drafts for fantasy football trying to gauge what others might do because I am the one that is going to be doing the actual drafting when the time comes. I just don't get what is gained from mocking the rookie draft. The only thing I ever see from it is a bunch of fans getting pissed off because real teams didn't pick who the fans wanted them to pick. I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment.

Can y'all honestly explain to me what is gained by researching all of these college players and then setting your expectations up to be shot down. What is the appeal?

"I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment."

Not even the the notorious 2014 Draft?

Brandin Cooks, WR. 2014 Draft: First Round, 20th Overall: ...

Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB. 2014 Draft: Second Round, 58th Overall. (and passing on WR Landry when we needed one in a deep WR draft because we were silly and took only Cooks instead)

Khairi Fortt, LB. 2014 Draft: Fourth Round, 126th Overall: ...
Vinnie Sunseri, S. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 167th Overall: ...
Ronald Powell, OLB. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 169th Overall: ...
Tavon Rooks, OT.

None but Cooks even in the NFL. Got the entire Scouting Dept fired and brought use ireland. That's what disappointment does. Or, as Forrest Gump's momma would say, "Stupid is what Stupid does."

K Major · 04-09-2021, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

"I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment."

Not even the the notorious 2014 Draft?

Brandin Cooks, WR. 2014 Draft: First Round, 20th Overall: ...

Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB. 2014 Draft: Second Round, 58th Overall. (and passing on WR Landry when we needed one in a deep WR draft because we were silly and took only Cooks instead)

Khairi Fortt, LB. 2014 Draft: Fourth Round, 126th Overall: ...
Vinnie Sunseri, S. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 167th Overall: ...
Ronald Powell, OLB. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 169th Overall: ...
Tavon Rooks, OT.

None but Cooks even in the NFL. Got the entire Scouting Dept fired and brought use ireland. That's what disappointment does. Or, as Forrest Gump's momma would say, "Stupid is what Stupid does."

What the hell was Ryan Pace thinking here?

Cooks good for a minute but the supporting cast ...

That was ugly.

jeanpierre · 04-09-2021, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

What the hell was Ryan Pace thinking here?

Cooks good for a minute but the supporting cast ...

That was ugly.

Pace, or Sean?

Sean won a Superbowl, one more than this franchise ever thought it'd see, but he got Don Shula life-time tenure for it. So no one can question Sean...

AsylumGuido · 04-10-2021, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

"I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment."

Not even the the notorious 2014 Draft?

Brandin Cooks, WR. 2014 Draft: First Round, 20th Overall: ...

Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB. 2014 Draft: Second Round, 58th Overall. (and passing on WR Landry when we needed one in a deep WR draft because we were silly and took only Cooks instead)

Khairi Fortt, LB. 2014 Draft: Fourth Round, 126th Overall: ...
Vinnie Sunseri, S. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 167th Overall: ...
Ronald Powell, OLB. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 169th Overall: ...
Tavon Rooks, OT.

None but Cooks even in the NFL. Got the entire Scouting Dept fired and brought use ireland. That's what disappointment does. Or, as Forrest Gump's momma would say, "Stupid is what Stupid does."

LOL! I never said that I have never been disappointed in the eventual results of a draft, MarchingOn. My reference to not being disappointed is that I don't have my mind set on certain players that I have spent time researching and hoping beyond hope that my team takes those players when the real kaka hits the fan. Some seem to take the picks personally and for some it seems to take years to recover if they don't match their expectations, if ever.

That what I meant. I don't set my expectations so when the draft takes place I enjoy every pick and immediately start trying to find out about who we picked.

subguy · 04-09-2021, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You say you are gluten for everyday football 😝, yet you don’t get the draft hype. Strange.

I guess he is gluten free

iceshack149 · 04-09-2021, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

I guess he is gluten free

It's a bit of a running joke currently.

https://blackandgold.com/saints/1003...ghlight=gluten (Saints players complain about 17 game schedule)

04-08-2021, 12:29 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I just don't get the pre-draft hype. Nobody other than those making the picks have any impact on who is actually taken by whom. I am as excited as the next person, however, during our picks of the actual draft just to see who we get. At that point I learn as much as possible about that player. I don't really expect, however, any true determination of the value of the player picked until at least two or three years down the road. If they prove their worth earlier, great! That's why I see draft grades as totally meaningless. That appears to be the feeling of many so-called experts in the field, as well, even as they give grades as directed. I, of course, know the importance of the draft to the success of a team. I also know that the speculations of fans has zero impact on that degree of success. But, as I have mentioned before, some of y'all get a kick out of playing the guessing game. It's just not my cup of tea. With no prior expectations I am never disappointed with the draft. You say you are gluten for everyday football 😝, yet you don’t get the draft hype. Strange. iceshack149 and jeanpierre like this.

04-08-2021, 01:50 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by Boston Saint You say you are gluten for everyday football 😝, yet you don’t get the draft hype. Strange. I love the draft itself. It's when you find out who your potential new players might be. I'll be glued to the TV watching for each of our picks. What I don't get is the desire to try to make the picks yourself. ie. the mock drafts and such. With a little patience you'll know come draft day. I'll do mock drafts for fantasy football trying to gauge what others might do because I am the one that is going to be doing the actual drafting when the time comes. I just don't get what is gained from mocking the rookie draft. The only thing I ever see from it is a bunch of fans getting pissed off because real teams didn't pick who the fans wanted them to pick. I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment. Can y'all honestly explain to me what is gained by researching all of these college players and then setting your expectations up to be shot down. What is the appeal?
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

04-08-2021, 02:34 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I love the draft itself. It's when you find out who your potential new players might be. I'll be glued to the TV watching for each of our picks. What I don't get is the desire to try to make the picks yourself. ie. the mock drafts and such. With a little patience you'll know come draft day. I'll do mock drafts for fantasy football trying to gauge what others might do because I am the one that is going to be doing the actual drafting when the time comes. I just don't get what is gained from mocking the rookie draft. The only thing I ever see from it is a bunch of fans getting pissed off because real teams didn't pick who the fans wanted them to pick. I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment. Can y'all honestly explain to me what is gained by researching all of these college players and then setting your expectations up to be shot down. What is the appeal? What’s the appeal of bragging about never being wrong about something you don’t participate in ?

04-08-2021, 03:02 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by Boston Saint What’s the appeal of bragging about never being wrong about something you don’t participate in ? What is there to be right or wrong about? What's the appeal? What is it I am missing? I absolutely get the appeal of the actual real draft. I've asked this in the past but never really got an answer. What's the attraction in trying to figure out who you think your team might pick when you can simply wait and see? I'm looking for serious answers. What is the motivation? And boasting about never being wrong about draft picks is an attempt at humor.

04-08-2021, 10:29 PM	#5
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I love the draft itself. It's when you find out who your potential new players might be. I'll be glued to the TV watching for each of our picks. What I don't get is the desire to try to make the picks yourself. ie. the mock drafts and such. With a little patience you'll know come draft day. I'll do mock drafts for fantasy football trying to gauge what others might do because I am the one that is going to be doing the actual drafting when the time comes. I just don't get what is gained from mocking the rookie draft. The only thing I ever see from it is a bunch of fans getting pissed off because real teams didn't pick who the fans wanted them to pick. I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment. Can y'all honestly explain to me what is gained by researching all of these college players and then setting your expectations up to be shot down. What is the appeal? "I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment." Not even the the notorious 2014 Draft? Brandin Cooks, WR. 2014 Draft: First Round, 20th Overall: ... Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB. 2014 Draft: Second Round, 58th Overall. (and passing on WR Landry when we needed one in a deep WR draft because we were silly and took only Cooks instead) Khairi Fortt, LB. 2014 Draft: Fourth Round, 126th Overall: ... Vinnie Sunseri, S. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 167th Overall: ... Ronald Powell, OLB. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 169th Overall: ... Tavon Rooks, OT. None but Cooks even in the NFL. Got the entire Scouting Dept fired and brought use ireland. That's what disappointment does. Or, as Forrest Gump's momma would say, "Stupid is what Stupid does." SmashMouth likes this.

04-09-2021, 08:00 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by MarchingOn "I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment." Not even the the notorious 2014 Draft? Brandin Cooks, WR. 2014 Draft: First Round, 20th Overall: ... Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB. 2014 Draft: Second Round, 58th Overall. (and passing on WR Landry when we needed one in a deep WR draft because we were silly and took only Cooks instead) Khairi Fortt, LB. 2014 Draft: Fourth Round, 126th Overall: ... Vinnie Sunseri, S. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 167th Overall: ... Ronald Powell, OLB. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 169th Overall: ... Tavon Rooks, OT. None but Cooks even in the NFL. Got the entire Scouting Dept fired and brought use ireland. That's what disappointment does. Or, as Forrest Gump's momma would say, "Stupid is what Stupid does." What the hell was Ryan Pace thinking here? Cooks good for a minute but the supporting cast ... That was ugly. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

04-09-2021, 08:49 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by K Major What the hell was Ryan Pace thinking here? Cooks good for a minute but the supporting cast ... That was ugly. Pace, or Sean? Sean won a Superbowl, one more than this franchise ever thought it'd see, but he got Don Shula life-time tenure for it. So no one can question Sean... K Major likes this.

04-10-2021, 04:29 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by MarchingOn "I'm never disappointed in a draft because I don't set myself up for disappointment." Not even the the notorious 2014 Draft? Brandin Cooks, WR. 2014 Draft: First Round, 20th Overall: ... Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB. 2014 Draft: Second Round, 58th Overall. (and passing on WR Landry when we needed one in a deep WR draft because we were silly and took only Cooks instead) Khairi Fortt, LB. 2014 Draft: Fourth Round, 126th Overall: ... Vinnie Sunseri, S. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 167th Overall: ... Ronald Powell, OLB. 2014 Draft: Fifth Round, 169th Overall: ... Tavon Rooks, OT. None but Cooks even in the NFL. Got the entire Scouting Dept fired and brought use ireland. That's what disappointment does. Or, as Forrest Gump's momma would say, "Stupid is what Stupid does." LOL! I never said that I have never been disappointed in the eventual results of a draft, MarchingOn. My reference to not being disappointed is that I don't have my mind set on certain players that I have spent time researching and hoping beyond hope that my team takes those players when the real kaka hits the fan. Some seem to take the picks personally and for some it seems to take years to recover if they don't match their expectations, if ever. That what I meant. I don't set my expectations so when the draft takes place I enjoy every pick and immediately start trying to find out about who we picked.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

04-09-2021, 05:56 AM	#9
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,099	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by Boston Saint You say you are gluten for everyday football 😝, yet you don’t get the draft hype. Strange. I guess he is gluten free

04-09-2021, 10:27 AM	#10
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PFF Draft Simulator Originally Posted by subguy I guess he is gluten free It's a bit of a running joke currently. https://blackandgold.com/saints/1003...ghlight=gluten (Saints players complain about 17 game schedule)