I hope we don't trade up.

TheOak · 04-29-2021, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Firstly, I honesty feel that Payton knows we do not have two QB's. I believe he knows full well who the starter is and that that person is Winston. Don't forget, Winston was the first overall pick in the draft, as will be Trevor Lawrence. After Lawrence there is a major drop off to QB #2 (which appears to be Wilson) which will supposedly go #2 overall. After that there is a huge drop in potential. I feel Winston is easily better than anyone after Lawrence or Wilson. If the Saints feel the same there is no reason to target a QB given those two are out of reach.

Do I think Winston is the next Drew Brees? No. I don't think the next Drew Brees is even in the draft this year. Hell, it may be ten years, or more, before we see another. And don't forget, we didn't draft our last Drew Brees.

Who is the QB (or QB's) in this draft that you are confident will be better than Jameis Winston?

The catch there brother is that when Drew Brees was in the draft, no one thought he would be Drew Brees either. Payton has an eye for QBs, I do believe he also had some words of influence getting Romo drafted in Dallas.

I promise you that Hill will go down a few games and that leaves us with Teddy and no back up. Winston only has 3 of 5 16 game seasons in Tampa so when he goes down Hill is all we have. Again, go all in and put you next franchise QB in a position to be there when you absolutely need him. Kind of like that 7th rounder.. what was his name... Tom Brady? I know Brady was a seventh rounder but if Payton is doing diligence to move up I trust that he has a very good reason.

AsylumGuido · 04-29-2021, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The catch there brother is that when Drew Brees was in the draft, no one thought he would be Drew Brees either. Payton has an eye for QBs, I do believe he also had some words of influence getting Romo drafted in Dallas.

I promise you that Hill will go down a few games and that leaves us with Teddy and no back up. Winston only has 3 of 5 16 game seasons in Tampa so when he goes down Hill is all we have. Again, go all in and put you next franchise QB in a position to be there when you absolutely need him. Kind of like that 7th rounder.. what was his name... Tom Brady? I know Brady was a seventh rounder but if Payton is doing diligence to move up I trust that he has a very good reason.

And if the QB whisperer, Payton, agrees with me and knows there is no franchise worthy QB in the 2021 draft after Lawrence, and maybe Wilson?

And how many QB's drafted after let's say the 2nd round have turned out to be "franchise" quality in the history of the NFL? Not many. Most drafted in the first round do not end up being "franchise" quality.

TheOak · 04-29-2021, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And if the QB whisperer, Payton, agrees with me and knows there is no franchise worthy QB in the 2021 draft after Lawrence, and maybe Wilson?

And how many QB's drafted after let's say the 2nd round have turned out to be "franchise" quality in the history of the NFL? Not many. Most drafted in the first round do not end up being "franchise" quality.

You are drifting Guido, that is a lot of ifs and I have been replying under the premise of the OP which is that he is preparing for something that is higher in the first round.

I'll go along with you though just for fun. If he does "agree with you" can you please get t it on video?

AsylumGuido · 04-29-2021, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You are drifting Guido, that is a lot of ifs and I have been replying under the premise of the OP which is that he is preparing for something that is higher in the first round.

I'll go along with you though just for fun. If he does "agree with you" can you please get t it on video?

I am absolutely hoping he is planning on something higher in the first round. And I hope like hell it isn't a QB. Then again, I would be shocked if it was. I'll record it when he says it, though, if you wish.

04-29-2021, 02:18 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: I hope we don't trade up. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Firstly, I honesty feel that Payton knows we do not have two QB's. I believe he knows full well who the starter is and that that person is Winston. Don't forget, Winston was the first overall pick in the draft, as will be Trevor Lawrence. After Lawrence there is a major drop off to QB #2 (which appears to be Wilson) which will supposedly go #2 overall. After that there is a huge drop in potential. I feel Winston is easily better than anyone after Lawrence or Wilson. If the Saints feel the same there is no reason to target a QB given those two are out of reach. Do I think Winston is the next Drew Brees? No. I don't think the next Drew Brees is even in the draft this year. Hell, it may be ten years, or more, before we see another. And don't forget, we didn't draft our last Drew Brees. Who is the QB (or QB's) in this draft that you are confident will be better than Jameis Winston? The catch there brother is that when Drew Brees was in the draft, no one thought he would be Drew Brees either. Payton has an eye for QBs, I do believe he also had some words of influence getting Romo drafted in Dallas. I promise you that Hill will go down a few games and that leaves us with Teddy and no back up. Winston only has 3 of 5 16 game seasons in Tampa so when he goes down Hill is all we have. Again, go all in and put you next franchise QB in a position to be there when you absolutely need him. Kind of like that 7th rounder.. what was his name... Tom Brady? I know Brady was a seventh rounder but if Payton is doing diligence to move up I trust that he has a very good reason. gosaints1 likes this.
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04-29-2021, 04:26 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: I hope we don't trade up. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And if the QB whisperer, Payton, agrees with me and knows there is no franchise worthy QB in the 2021 draft after Lawrence, and maybe Wilson? And how many QB's drafted after let's say the 2nd round have turned out to be "franchise" quality in the history of the NFL? Not many. Most drafted in the first round do not end up being "franchise" quality. You are drifting Guido, that is a lot of ifs and I have been replying under the premise of the OP which is that he is preparing for something that is higher in the first round. I'll go along with you though just for fun. If he does "agree with you" can you please get t it on video?

04-29-2021, 04:30 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: I hope we don't trade up. Originally Posted by TheOak You are drifting Guido, that is a lot of ifs and I have been replying under the premise of the OP which is that he is preparing for something that is higher in the first round. I'll go along with you though just for fun. If he does "agree with you" can you please get t it on video? I am absolutely hoping he is planning on something higher in the first round. And I hope like hell it isn't a QB. Then again, I would be shocked if it was. I'll record it when he says it, though, if you wish.

04-29-2021, 02:28 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: I hope we don't trade up. Originally Posted by TheOak The catch there brother is that when Drew Brees was in the draft, no one thought he would be Drew Brees either. Payton has an eye for QBs, I do believe he also had some words of influence getting Romo drafted in Dallas. I promise you that Hill will go down a few games and that leaves us with Teddy and no back up. Winston only has 3 of 5 16 game seasons in Tampa so when he goes down Hill is all we have. Again, go all in and put you next franchise QB in a position to be there when you absolutely need him. Kind of like that 7th rounder.. what was his name... Tom Brady? I know Brady was a seventh rounder but if Payton is doing diligence to move up I trust that he has a very good reason. And if the QB whisperer, Payton, agrees with me and knows there is no franchise worthy QB in the 2021 draft after Lawrence, and maybe Wilson? And how many QB's drafted after let's say the 2nd round have turned out to be "franchise" quality in the history of the NFL? Not many. Most drafted in the first round do not end up being "franchise" quality.