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SmashMouth 05-01-2021 05:51 PM

UDFA Signings
 

UDFA next... :popcorn:

You know it'll be fast and furious after the conclusion of the draft. Who's on the short list?

Gil Brandt's top prospects

saintfan 05-01-2021 05:55 PM

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Saintfan is available and will gladly play for the minimum

SmashMouth 05-01-2021 05:59 PM

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neugey 05-01-2021 06:03 PM

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Maybe Tuf Borland from Ohio State as a reserve/special teams LB.

voodooido 05-01-2021 06:05 PM

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Thought he was a safety?

Rsanders24 05-01-2021 06:06 PM

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David Moore OG Grambling
Kenny Yeboah TE Ole Miss
Dylan Moses LB Alabama (why not?)
Marvin Wilson DT Florida St (again...why not)

Rsanders24 05-01-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 919938)
Thought he was a safety?

Definitely looks like he projects to Safety...not CB

AsylumGuido 05-01-2021 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 919932)
https://twitter.com/LarryHolder/stat...27234509008898

UDFA next... :popcorn:

You know it'll be fast and furious after the conclusion of the draft. Who's on the short list?

Whomever our powers that be choose. I can't wait to see. There will be more than a few that will have to make the cut to at least the practice squad.

Rsanders24 05-01-2021 06:09 PM

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Malik Herring DE Georgia

AsylumGuido 05-01-2021 06:11 PM

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Buford Klambach - G - South Dakota School of Mines

neugey 05-01-2021 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919944)
Buford Klambach - G - South Dakota School of Mines


A Hardrocker! That's where my dad went to college.

rezburna 05-01-2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 919935)

I ****in love that name.

SmashMouth 05-01-2021 10:34 PM

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SmashMouth 05-01-2021 10:36 PM

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jeanpierre 05-01-2021 10:43 PM

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SmashMouth 05-02-2021 06:04 AM

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SmashMouth 05-02-2021 06:15 AM

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Pierre Thomas replacement?

SmashMouth 05-02-2021 07:11 AM

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voodooido 05-02-2021 09:59 AM

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Am I the only one confused by the lack of wr taken in the draft or in udfa?

SaintFanInATLHELL 05-02-2021 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 920001)
Am I the only one confused by the lack of wr taken in the draft or in udfa?

Could it be that the Saints have about 18 WR on staff and apparently the brain trust likes those receivers they have?

I just cannot see why folks cannot understand that the Saints current scheme where MT13 is option #1 and AK41 is option #1A that there simply isn't a whole lot of room for production from the other receiving slots. As I pointed out before the Saints offense has TQS10 out there for nearly 70% of the offensive plays the last 2 years. If the Saints are not happy with his production, then why do they keep running him out there? Why has he not been replaced? Sanders last year didn't replace TQS. He replaced Ginn from the year before. And it showed in the numbers. Sanders had 82 targets for 61 catches in a season where MT13 only played 7 games. Ginn had 56 targets for 30 catches the year before when MT13 caught 149 balls in 16 games. Clearly the #1/#2 production of Sanders wasn't setting the world on fire. And I repeat that TQS10 was out on the field for 70% of the offensive snaps both years.

It's impossible to get production out of a position that isn't targeted.

SFIAH

SmashMouth 05-02-2021 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 920001)
Am I the only one confused by the lack of wr taken in the draft or in udfa?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 920004)
Could it be that the Saints have about 18 WR on staff and apparently the brain trust likes those receivers they have?

I just cannot see why folks cannot understand that the Saints current scheme where MT13 is option #1 and AK41 is option #1A that there simply isn't a whole lot of room for production from the other receiving slots. As I pointed out before the Saints offense has TQS10 out there for nearly 70% of the offensive plays the last 2 years. If the Saints are not happy with his production, then why do they keep running him out there? Why has he not been replaced? Sanders last year didn't replace TQS. He replaced Ginn from the year before. And it showed in the numbers. Sanders had 82 targets for 61 catches in a season where MT13 only played 7 games. Ginn had 56 targets for 30 catches the year before when MT13 caught 149 balls in 16 games. Clearly the #1/#2 production of Sanders wasn't setting the world on fire. And I repeat that TQS10 was out on the field for 70% of the offensive snaps both years.

It's impossible to get production out of a position that isn't targeted.

SFIAH

Don't snooze on that South Alabama kid!

Boston Saint 05-02-2021 11:45 AM

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That Stevie Scott is a beast at 6’ 2” 230. He may be a player.

SaintFanInATLHELL 05-02-2021 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 920008)
Don't snooze on that South Alabama kid!

The South Alabama kid picked in the 7th round.

You do know that lightning typically strikes only once? There's Marques Colston. There's Antonio Brown (6th round). There really isn't anyone else.

I repeat: the Saints scheme really doesn't provide for consistent production outside the #1 receiver and #1 back. Typically the other receivers are used to block and to draw defensive secondaries into advantageous configurations. Also, the other positions are used for shot plays.

SFIAH

rezburna 05-02-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 920011)
The South Alabama kid picked in the 7th round.

You do know that lightning typically strikes only once? There's Marques Colston. There's Antonio Brown (6th round). There really isn't anyone else.

I repeat: the Saints scheme really doesn't provide for consistent production outside the #1 receiver and #1 back. Typically the other receivers are used to block and to draw defensive secondaries into advantageous configurations. Also, the other positions are used for shot plays.

SFIAH

I’m rooting for him. I went to South Alabama for a minute too. The program was brand new then, so it’s amazing to see them sending people to the league now.

The Dude 05-02-2021 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 920004)
Could it be that the Saints have about 18 WR on staff and apparently the brain trust likes those receivers they have?

I just cannot see why folks cannot understand that the Saints current scheme where MT13 is option #1 and AK41 is option #1A that there simply isn't a whole lot of room for production from the other receiving slots. As I pointed out before the Saints offense has TQS10 out there for nearly 70% of the offensive plays the last 2 years. If the Saints are not happy with his production, then why do they keep running him out there? Why has he not been replaced? Sanders last year didn't replace TQS. He replaced Ginn from the year before. And it showed in the numbers. Sanders had 82 targets for 61 catches in a season where MT13 only played 7 games. Ginn had 56 targets for 30 catches the year before when MT13 caught 149 balls in 16 games. Clearly the #1/#2 production of Sanders wasn't setting the world on fire. And I repeat that TQS10 was out on the field for 70% of the offensive snaps both years.

It's impossible to get production out of a position that isn't targeted.

SFIAH

I agree with you but it’s not the numbers or talent that concerns me, its their ability to stay healthy. Smith, Calloway, and Harris all seem to get injured when playing limited roles. Especially Harris. I trust the staff but it wouldn’t have hurt my feelings if we had added an earlier round receiver.

AsylumGuido 05-02-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 920016)
I agree with you but it’s not the numbers or talent that concerns me, its their ability to stay healthy. Smith, Calloway, and Harris all seem to get injured when playing limited roles. Especially Harris. I trust the staff but it wouldn’t have hurt my feelings if we had added an earlier round receiver.

Anything guaranteeing that the earlier drafted WR doesn't suffer an injury as well? The saying is that the injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Every player suffers injuries at one point or another. It is the nature of the game.

Rell&Gold 05-02-2021 07:24 PM

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I think that South Alabama WR makes the team I think I see what Sean is doing I think. Him Deonte Harris I like it plus The Saints are good at finding small school offensive Talent

neugey 05-02-2021 08:33 PM

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Too early to worry about the WR depth. Let's see what the June 1 cuts and preseason cuts in August might bring.

jeanpierre 05-02-2021 08:44 PM

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Was hoping the Saints could've signed these guys...

LB Dylan Moses, Alabama (JAX)
WR Josh Imatorbhebhe, Illinois (JAX)
S Christian Uphoff, Illinois State (GB)
WR Antonio Nunn, Buffalo (ATL)
LB Paddy Fisher, Northwestern (CAR)

K Major 05-02-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 920041)
Was hoping the Saints could've signed these guys...

LB Dylan Moses, Alabama (JAX)

I thought Dylan would have dropped to 3rd, maybe 4th but not undrafted.

If he can stay healthy, he'll help Jacksonville. Urban Meyer & Trevor will need all the help they can get.

The Dude 05-02-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 920033)
Anything guaranteeing that the earlier drafted WR doesn't suffer an injury as well? The saying is that the injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Every player suffers injuries at one point or another. It is the nature of the game.

Exactly. Even more of a reason to have more bodies to step in if needed. Do you argue with your door knob when your internet service is interrupted?

K Major 05-02-2021 09:46 PM

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Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible.

Good luck to him.

SmashMouth 05-02-2021 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 920044)
Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible.

Good luck to him.

But of course... as all rookies and UDFA. That's a given.

jeanpierre 05-02-2021 10:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 920042)
I thought Dylan would have dropped to 3rd, maybe 4th but not undrafted.

If he can stay healthy, he'll help Jacksonville. Urban Meyer & Trevor will need all the help they can get.

Reading that medicals (health and history) were very limited, inconsistent, or unavailable on many rated prospects for this draft...

Wonder if there really will be an investigation re: some teams got medicals on players upon request, but others teams didn't receive them at all...

Payton even made a post draft comment to the effect that for players on their board they chose they had clean bills of health on them...

This is where not having a combine really hurts, because when everyone is in one place, you can correct oversights of uneven flow of common information...

jeanpierre 05-02-2021 10:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 920044)
Kawaan Baker will have to excel on special teams to have a shot at a roster spot. Anything is possible.

Good luck to him.

We're likely carrying five to six wide receivers on the roster; this is how I'd rank 'em...

WR1 - Mike Thomas
WR2 - TreQuan Smith (best case for him)
WR3 - Marquez Callaway

Now, let me stop here and say this is based on actual experience; right now, Callaway looks to have the higher ceiling of the WR2, WR3...

WR4 - Deonte Harris

Because of Harris' role as KR/PR, believe we'll carry six WRs, so...

Then you got these guys...

19 - Jake Lampman (RFC 2021)
83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021)
84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)
00 - Jalen McCleskey (FA 2021)
00 - Kawaan Baker (R7, P255)

So he's got to show enough to be in the top 2 or 3 of that third tier group...

Boston Saint 05-02-2021 11:57 PM

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It wouldn’t surprise me if Winston has a good connection with Humphrey or someone else he had a lot of practice with doing backup reps.

K Major 05-03-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 920049)
83 - Juwan Johnson (ERFA 2021)
84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (ERFA 2021)


I wonder if SP has ever thought of moving Juwan to TE ? With his skill set, he seems like he'd be a little bit more effective there in this offense.

As for Southlake (Jordan Humphrey), I won't hold my breath. Decent blocker but lacks separation (biggest knock coming out of UT) & ball skills. With his size, he should be winning more battles against smaller CB's off the line.

SmashMouth 05-03-2021 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 920067)
I wonder if SP has ever thought of moving Juwan to TE ? With his skill set, he seems like he'd be a little bit more effective there in this offense.

As for Southlake (Jordan Humphrey), I won't hold my breath. Decent blocker but lacks separation (biggest knock coming out of UT) & ball skills. With his size, he should be winning more battles against smaller CB's off the line.

Maybe he's learned since his days at Royal Stadium? He sure seems effective in the red zone.

SmashMouth 05-03-2021 08:37 AM

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Syracuse cornerback Atrilleon "Trill" Williams is a 6-foot-3, 208-pound defensive back who elected to opt out of his junior season midway through the 2020 campaign because of injuries. In three seasons with the Orange, he racked up 93 tackles, three forced fumbles, 10 pass breakups and four interceptions.

Will he make inroads in the depth chart, and gulp... even get "Atrilleon" interceptions and pass breakups?

K Major 05-03-2021 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 920076)
Syracuse cornerback Atrilleon "Trill" Williams is a 6-foot-3, 208-pound defensive back who elected to opt out of his junior season midway through the 2020 campaign because of injuries. In three seasons with the Orange, he racked up 93 tackles, three forced fumbles, 10 pass breakups and four interceptions.

Will he make inroads in the depth chart, and gulp... even get "Atrilleon" interceptions and pass breakups?

Your camp beast perhaps?


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