Since you asked...Mel Kiper's Grade on Saints Draft

K Major · 05-02-2021, 05:41 PM

I'm not even sure there was a "draft expert" before Mel K Jr. Now all of the networks have at least 2 or 3. I've never taken his opinions on players seriously, but I do applaud him for having a hustle that has lasted this long.

Basically, he created his own niche.

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2021, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm not even sure there was a "draft expert" before Mel K Jr. Now all of the networks have at least 2 or 3. I've never taken his opinions on players seriously, but I do applaud him for having a hustle that has lasted this long.

Basically, he created his own niche.

Yeah. I can agree with that. They have created themselves a lucrative job based upon a fairly useless premise.

Not are their opinions on players sketchy, but even more so are their takes upon how teams draft.

jeanpierre · 05-02-2021, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yeah. I can agree with that. They have created themselves a lucrative job based upon a fairly useless premise.

Not are their opinions on players sketchy, but even more so are their takes upon how teams draft.

Just because you lack vision, knowledge, insight doesn't mean it's a useless premise...

And if you'd bother to study the history of the game, then you'd already know guys like Kiper, away from the big lights show, have definitely had an impact on the game...

Teams now hire many of the software companies that the scouting services have, if they are not already using those scouting services to augment their own info...

We now have things like SPARQ, The Wunderlic, and a Combine and many more objective evaluation systems because of these services like Kiper...

I Remember when Saints draft meetings were held over a week long golf trip; now with all the attention, despite nepotism, teams are under pressure to draft better...

Some teams do it better consistently, than others; that's why those teams are usually rebounding after only one bad year and are in a Superbowl every five to ten years...

This year was unusual because of the #BlackSwanEvent, shorted or non-existent seasons, and a lack of the usual evaluation processes...

darksoul35 · 05-03-2021, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm not even sure there was a "draft expert" before Mel K Jr. Now all of the networks have at least 2 or 3. I've never taken his opinions on players seriously, but I do applaud him for having a hustle that has lasted this long.

Basically, he created his own niche.

Plus the whole Todd Todd Todd thing was funny for about a day or so.

05-02-2021, 05:41 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Since you asked...Mel Kiper's Grade on Saints Draft I'm not even sure there was a "draft expert" before Mel K Jr. Now all of the networks have at least 2 or 3. I've never taken his opinions on players seriously, but I do applaud him for having a hustle that has lasted this long. Basically, he created his own niche. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Since you asked...Mel Kiper's Grade on Saints Draft Originally Posted by K Major I'm not even sure there was a "draft expert" before Mel K Jr. Now all of the networks have at least 2 or 3. I've never taken his opinions on players seriously, but I do applaud him for having a hustle that has lasted this long. Basically, he created his own niche. Yeah. I can agree with that. They have created themselves a lucrative job based upon a fairly useless premise. Not are their opinions on players sketchy, but even more so are their takes upon how teams draft.

05-02-2021, 10:54 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Since you asked...Mel Kiper's Grade on Saints Draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yeah. I can agree with that. They have created themselves a lucrative job based upon a fairly useless premise. Not are their opinions on players sketchy, but even more so are their takes upon how teams draft. Just because you lack vision, knowledge, insight doesn't mean it's a useless premise... And if you'd bother to study the history of the game, then you'd already know guys like Kiper, away from the big lights show, have definitely had an impact on the game... Teams now hire many of the software companies that the scouting services have, if they are not already using those scouting services to augment their own info... We now have things like SPARQ, The Wunderlic, and a Combine and many more objective evaluation systems because of these services like Kiper... I Remember when Saints draft meetings were held over a week long golf trip; now with all the attention, despite nepotism, teams are under pressure to draft better... Some teams do it better consistently, than others; that's why those teams are usually rebounding after only one bad year and are in a Superbowl every five to ten years... This year was unusual because of the #BlackSwanEvent, shorted or non-existent seasons, and a lack of the usual evaluation processes... iceshack149, Rsanders24, gosaints1 and 1 others like this.
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darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Since you asked...Mel Kiper's Grade on Saints Draft Originally Posted by K Major I'm not even sure there was a "draft expert" before Mel K Jr. Now all of the networks have at least 2 or 3. I've never taken his opinions on players seriously, but I do applaud him for having a hustle that has lasted this long. Basically, he created his own niche. Plus the whole Todd Todd Todd thing was funny for about a day or so.
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