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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As I have been saying all along, Winston is the ONLY logical choice to start. We can say that all day cant we... but that is only half of the equation. With the rest of the ...

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Old 05-25-2021, 08:17 AM   #1
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As I have been saying all along, Winston is the ONLY logical choice to start.
We can say that all day cant we... but that is only half of the equation.

With the rest of the equation being how prone Sean Payton is to make constantly logical decisions. You may also want to consider that there has been nothing ground breaking in regards to Winston or Hill since last season yet that logical choice wasn't made in 2020 when Drew was out.
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Old 05-25-2021, 08:32 AM   #2
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We can say that all day cant we... but that is only half of the equation.

With the rest of the equation being how prone Sean Payton is to make constantly logical decisions. You may also want to consider that there has been nothing ground breaking in regards to Winston or Hill since last season yet that logical choice wasn't made in 2020 when Drew was out.
As I posted in my previous reply ...

"Hill will not be the backup. It will be the same setup as the past two seasons with Winston as the starter (ala Brees), Book as the game day backup (ala Bridgewater and Winston), and Hill as the utility player/#2 starter in case of extended injury. Hill is too valuable to leave off the field and too valuable to simply play solely game manager at QB. Winston has already embraced that role publicly."

Last season the logical choice was Winston in the "game day backup" role, while Hill's game day preparations were as the Swiss army knife. Hill had the playbook down better than Winston for the long run, but Winston (with the game day prep) was to come in during the game if needed. Very logical.

This season with a full season under his belt Winston will be Brees, with Book as Winston, and Hill starring as himself.

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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As I posted in my previous reply ...

"Hill will not be the backup. It will be the same setup as the past two seasons with Winston as the starter (ala Brees), Book as the game day backup (ala Bridgewater and Winston), and Hill as the utility player/#2 starter in case of extended injury. Hill is too valuable to leave off the field and too valuable to simply play solely game manager at QB. Winston has already embraced that role publicly."

Last season the logical choice was Winston in the "game day backup" role, while Hill's game day preparations were as the Swiss army knife. Hill had the playbook down better than Winston for the long run, but Winston (with the game day prep) was to come in during the game if needed. Very logical.

This season with a full season under his belt Winston will be Brees, with Book as Winston, and Hill starring as himself.
Stop saying logic, you are ignoring that Sean Payton is not prone to rational decisions all of the time. There is no logical certainty with an emotional decision maker.

When you are this emphatic, you are generally trying to silence the voice in your head telling you there is a high probability of another result.
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Old 05-25-2021, 09:42 AM   #4
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Stop saying logic, you are ignoring that Sean Payton is not prone to rational decisions all of the time. There is no logical certainty with an emotional decision maker.

When you are this emphatic, you are generally trying to silence the voice in your head telling you there is a high probability of another result.
You guys are pulling a Star Trek argument...Guido Spock is arguing about what logic dictates and Oak is pressing the Kirk do the unexpected/ chaos theory side. If I had the know how I’d make a meme!
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Stop saying logic, you are ignoring that Sean Payton is not prone to rational decisions all of the time. There is no logical certainty with an emotional decision maker.

When you are this emphatic, you are generally trying to silence the voice in your head telling you there is a high probability of another result.
The uses of Winston and Hill last season was perfectly logical. The fact that you feel Payton may make what you feel as an irrational decision at times doesn't negate that fact.

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The uses of Winston and Hill last season was perfectly logical. The fact that you feel Payton may make what you feel as an irrational decision at times doesn't negate that fact.

Like a chameleon you shift from Nostradamus to Spock after Boston makes a comment that plays to your ego, then you actually post a meme to further cheer your self on LOL... You are drowning in your own narcissism. My comments have never been about what is the best or most logical choice, if you actually read what I have written. The discussion has always been about you using that template to claim to know what the outcome will be and me telling you that Sean Payton (you know, the man that makes the decision) is just not that predictable. Spock takes all possible variables into account, you do not, you are choosing to ignore a very impactful one.

After reading this, Spock would look at you and in a Morgan Freeman voice say "He is right you know"...

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Like a chameleon you shift from Nostradamus to Spock after Boston makes a comment that plays to your ego, then you actually post a meme to further cheer your self on LOL......
I was playing to both egos in all fairness. Kirk kicks ass.
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Like a chameleon you shift from Nostradamus to Spock after Boston makes a comment that plays to your ego, then you actually post a meme to further cheer your self on LOL... You are drowning in your own narcissism. My comments have never been about what is the best or most logical choice, if you actually read what I have written. The discussion has always been about you using that template to claim to know what the outcome will be and me telling you that Sean Payton (you know, the man that makes the decision) is just not that predictable. Spock takes all possible variables into account, you do not, you are choosing to ignore a very impactful one.

After reading this, Spock would look at you and in a Morgan Freeman voice say "He is right you know"...
I never implied I could read the future. I can, however, take what has been demonstrated in the past consistently and extrapolate that to the future with what I believe is fairly high probability. It is simple analysis. It is an important part of what I did professionally for 25 years as a business and systems analyst.

Does that mean it will work out exactly as I described? No. But I would be extremely surprised if it didn't.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
I never implied I could read the future. I can, however, take what has been demonstrated in the past consistently and extrapolate that to the future with what I believe is fairly high probability. It is simple analysis. It is an important part of what I did professionally for 25 years as a business and systems analyst.

Does that mean it will work out exactly as I described? No. But I would be extremely surprised if it didn't.
Guido thinks like an analyst. He is Spock! I knew it!
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