Does the Saints locker room want Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill?

AsylumGuido · 06-02-2021, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

So, you're saying it's a FACT that Winston didn't know the playbook by WEEK 11 well enough is why Taysom started over him. If the guy didn't know it well enough to start by WEEK 11, 12, 13, and 14 ----- Will he ever?
Also I cannot think of a quarterback in HIS FIRST FOUR STARTS - EVER - that completed 72.7 percent of his passes. That includes Winston who had a dismal 58.32% percent in his first year. (i couldn't break down the first 4 games.) In 2019 WITH ALL HIS experience HE COULD ONLY MANAGE 63.64% see below for his career stats:
2020 New Orleans Saints 4 11 7 63.64 75 6.8 19 0 0 5 45.45 0 2 11 83.5
2019 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 626 380 60.7 5109 8.2 71 33 30 243 38.82 75 47 282 84.3
2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11 378 244 64.55 2992 7.9 64 19 14 152 40.21 34 27 157 90.2
2017 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13 442 282 63.8 3504 7.9 70 19 11 180 40.72 32 33 207 92.2
2016 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 567 345 60.85 4090 7.2 45 28 18 214 37.74 43 35 239 86.1
2015 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 535 312 58.32 4042 7.6 68 22 15 201 37.57 57 27 190 84.2
TOTAL 76 2559 1570 61.35 19812 7.7 337 121 88 995 38.88 241 171 1086 86.9

PS Don't forget Taysom broke all of Steve Young's records at BYU. But sure (tongue in cheek) "he's more valuable to us as a swiss army knife."
No, I am not a Mormon...not even close. But the guy can play Quarterback (better than Winston) and has PROVEN it.

If I remember correctly, Winston did okay in college as well. It seems he won the Heisman AND the National Championship.

And I'm sure Winston had a grasp of the playbook by week 11. But with far more time under his belt with the playbook, Hill was the logical choice to start those few games. Now the difference between Winston's and Hill's playbook knowledge would be negligible and Hills value as a versatile weapon tips the scale in Winston's favor of starting moving forward.

And, I'm not sure what you are watching, but when has Hill ever shown he was better at playing QB than Winston? He has started four games in his entire NFL career. He managed to beat an Atlanta team with a horrible defense two of those games. He was the starting QB against a Denver team that had no QB's on the active gameday roster for another win. He lost to a poor Eagles squad in the other. He threw two picks and fumbled the ball FIVE times in his four starts. He has passed for FOUR TD's in his entire NFL career.

What about any of that is impressive?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Does the Saints locker room want Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by Thirty3 So, you're saying it's a FACT that Winston didn't know the playbook by WEEK 11 well enough is why Taysom started over him. If the guy didn't know it well enough to start by WEEK 11, 12, 13, and 14 ----- Will he ever? Also I cannot think of a quarterback in HIS FIRST FOUR STARTS - EVER - that completed 72.7 percent of his passes. That includes Winston who had a dismal 58.32% percent in his first year. (i couldn't break down the first 4 games.) In 2019 WITH ALL HIS experience HE COULD ONLY MANAGE 63.64% see below for his career stats: 2020 New Orleans Saints 4 11 7 63.64 75 6.8 19 0 0 5 45.45 0 2 11 83.5 2019 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 626 380 60.7 5109 8.2 71 33 30 243 38.82 75 47 282 84.3 2018 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11 378 244 64.55 2992 7.9 64 19 14 152 40.21 34 27 157 90.2 2017 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13 442 282 63.8 3504 7.9 70 19 11 180 40.72 32 33 207 92.2 2016 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 567 345 60.85 4090 7.2 45 28 18 214 37.74 43 35 239 86.1 2015 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 535 312 58.32 4042 7.6 68 22 15 201 37.57 57 27 190 84.2 TOTAL 76 2559 1570 61.35 19812 7.7 337 121 88 995 38.88 241 171 1086 86.9 PS Don't forget Taysom broke all of Steve Young's records at BYU. But sure (tongue in cheek) "he's more valuable to us as a swiss army knife." No, I am not a Mormon...not even close. But the guy can play Quarterback (better than Winston) and has PROVEN it. If I remember correctly, Winston did okay in college as well. It seems he won the Heisman AND the National Championship. And I'm sure Winston had a grasp of the playbook by week 11. But with far more time under his belt with the playbook, Hill was the logical choice to start those few games. Now the difference between Winston's and Hill's playbook knowledge would be negligible and Hills value as a versatile weapon tips the scale in Winston's favor of starting moving forward. And, I'm not sure what you are watching, but when has Hill ever shown he was better at playing QB than Winston? He has started four games in his entire NFL career. He managed to beat an Atlanta team with a horrible defense two of those games. He was the starting QB against a Denver team that had no QB's on the active gameday roster for another win. He lost to a poor Eagles squad in the other. He threw two picks and fumbled the ball FIVE times in his four starts. He has passed for FOUR TD's in his entire NFL career. What about any of that is impressive?
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