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jeanpierre 06-01-2021 11:49 AM
Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 

AsylumGuido 06-01-2021 02:56 PM
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Seems like a good gamble to me. I have a feeling I'll be getting me a Davenport jersey to replace the Brees jersey I have worn since the 2006 preseason after this coming season.

halloween 65 06-01-2021 03:52 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 921402)
Seems like a good gamble to me. I have a feeling I'll be getting me a Davenport jersey to replace the Brees jersey I have worn since the 2006 preseason after this coming season.
Going from hero(Brees) to zero(Davenport), I see. I dig it!!

AsylumGuido 06-01-2021 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 921404)
Going from hero(Brees) to zero(Davenport), I see. I dig it!!
Undoubtedly I have more faith than you.

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The Dude 06-01-2021 06:24 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 
Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy.
We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much.

Boston Saint 06-01-2021 07:28 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 921410)
Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy.
We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much.
Careful Dude, It’s not popular to deny the greatness that has been Davenport!

st thomas 06-01-2021 07:48 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 921410)
Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy.
We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much.

Can someone compare when we drafted cam against dav stats. Cam seems like is never injured though?


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AsylumGuido 06-02-2021 08:18 AM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 
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Can someone compare when we drafted cam against dav stats. Cam seems like is never injured though?


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A well known saying in the NFL is that the injury rate is 100%. At some point(s) or another every player will suffer injuries. Some come early in their careers and never appear again. Others remain mostly healthy until late in their careers. Davenport has been forced to deal with injuries each of his three season thus far. That is simply misfortune.

As for Cam versus Davenport, Jordan only had one season with over ten sacks in his first six years. That was in his third year in 2013 with 12.5 sacks. He really broke out in year seven having 13, 12, and 15.5 over the next three seasons.

Another thing to consider is that Davenport has been used more on running downs in the Saints DE rotation. It appears that Dennis Allen did not trust Hendrickson in that role as he played almost exclusively passing downs. I'm expecting Davenport to get more use in that pass rush role moving forward if Turner can show his worth versus the run.

saintsfan1976 06-02-2021 08:41 AM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 
This year's defensive line is already better than last season's.

dizzle88 06-02-2021 12:10 PM
Re: Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 921422)
A well known saying in the NFL is that the injury rate is 100%. At some point(s) or another every player will suffer injuries. Some come early in their careers and never appear again. Others remain mostly healthy until late in their careers. Davenport has been forced to deal with injuries each of his three season thus far. That is simply misfortune.

As for Cam versus Davenport, Jordan only had one season with over ten sacks in his first six years. That was in his third year in 2013 with 12.5 sacks. He really broke out in year seven having 13, 12, and 15.5 over the next three seasons.

Another thing to consider is that Davenport has been used more on running downs in the Saints DE rotation. It appears that Dennis Allen did not trust Hendrickson in that role as he played almost exclusively passing downs. I'm expecting Davenport to get more use in that pass rush role moving forward if Turner can show his worth versus the run.
I don't buy the misfortune card, some people are just more injury prone than others, and Sean Payton seems to find them lol


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