Si.com/Bob Rose | Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport

jeanpierre · 06-01-2021, 11:49 AM

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AsylumGuido · 06-01-2021, 02:56 PM

Seems like a good gamble to me. I have a feeling I'll be getting me a Davenport jersey to replace the Brees jersey I have worn since the 2006 preseason after this coming season.

halloween 65 · 06-01-2021, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Seems like a good gamble to me. I have a feeling I'll be getting me a Davenport jersey to replace the Brees jersey I have worn since the 2006 preseason after this coming season.

Going from hero(Brees) to zero(Davenport), I see. I dig it!!

AsylumGuido · 06-01-2021, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Going from hero(Brees) to zero(Davenport), I see. I dig it!!

Undoubtedly I have more faith than you.

The Dude · 06-01-2021, 06:24 PM

Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy.
We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much.

Boston Saint · 06-01-2021, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy.
We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much.

Careful Dude, It’s not popular to deny the greatness that has been Davenport!

st thomas · 06-01-2021, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy.
We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much.

Can someone compare when we drafted cam against dav stats. Cam seems like is never injured though?

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AsylumGuido · 06-02-2021, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Can someone compare when we drafted cam against dav stats. Cam seems like is never injured though?

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A well known saying in the NFL is that the injury rate is 100%. At some point(s) or another every player will suffer injuries. Some come early in their careers and never appear again. Others remain mostly healthy until late in their careers. Davenport has been forced to deal with injuries each of his three season thus far. That is simply misfortune.

As for Cam versus Davenport, Jordan only had one season with over ten sacks in his first six years. That was in his third year in 2013 with 12.5 sacks. He really broke out in year seven having 13, 12, and 15.5 over the next three seasons.

Another thing to consider is that Davenport has been used more on running downs in the Saints DE rotation. It appears that Dennis Allen did not trust Hendrickson in that role as he played almost exclusively passing downs. I'm expecting Davenport to get more use in that pass rush role moving forward if Turner can show his worth versus the run.

saintsfan1976 · 06-02-2021, 08:41 AM

This year's defensive line is already better than last season's.

dizzle88 · 06-02-2021, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

A well known saying in the NFL is that the injury rate is 100%. At some point(s) or another every player will suffer injuries. Some come early in their careers and never appear again. Others remain mostly healthy until late in their careers. Davenport has been forced to deal with injuries each of his three season thus far. That is simply misfortune.

As for Cam versus Davenport, Jordan only had one season with over ten sacks in his first six years. That was in his third year in 2013 with 12.5 sacks. He really broke out in year seven having 13, 12, and 15.5 over the next three seasons.

Another thing to consider is that Davenport has been used more on running downs in the Saints DE rotation. It appears that Dennis Allen did not trust Hendrickson in that role as he played almost exclusively passing downs. I'm expecting Davenport to get more use in that pass rush role moving forward if Turner can show his worth versus the run.

I don't buy the misfortune card, some people are just more injury prone than others, and Sean Payton seems to find them lol

06-01-2021, 11:49 AM	#1
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Seems like a good gamble to me. I have a feeling I'll be getting me a Davenport jersey to replace the Brees jersey I have worn since the 2006 preseason after this coming season. saintsfan1976 and st thomas like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Seems like a good gamble to me. I have a feeling I'll be getting me a Davenport jersey to replace the Brees jersey I have worn since the 2006 preseason after this coming season. Going from hero(Brees) to zero(Davenport), I see. I dig it!! The Dude and Boston Saint like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by halloween 65 Going from hero(Brees) to zero(Davenport), I see. I dig it!! Undoubtedly I have more faith than you. st thomas and shawnkytonk like this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,877	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by The Dude Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy. We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much. Careful Dude, It’s not popular to deny the greatness that has been Davenport!

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by The Dude Thought he would be a game changer once he finally got healthy last year. He pretty much disappeared. Guess he wasn’t all that healthy. We also invested so much into him because we were in “win now mode”. Apparently they saw something in him that made them think he could make an immediate impact. Here we are three years later still waiting for that impact. He didn’t help us during the “win now” window and that alone tells me we gave up too much. Can someone compare when we drafted cam against dav stats. Cam seems like is never injured though? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-02-2021, 08:18 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by st thomas Can someone compare when we drafted cam against dav stats. Cam seems like is never injured though? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A well known saying in the NFL is that the injury rate is 100%. At some point(s) or another every player will suffer injuries. Some come early in their careers and never appear again. Others remain mostly healthy until late in their careers. Davenport has been forced to deal with injuries each of his three season thus far. That is simply misfortune. As for Cam versus Davenport, Jordan only had one season with over ten sacks in his first six years. That was in his third year in 2013 with 12.5 sacks. He really broke out in year seven having 13, 12, and 15.5 over the next three seasons. Another thing to consider is that Davenport has been used more on running downs in the Saints DE rotation. It appears that Dennis Allen did not trust Hendrickson in that role as he played almost exclusively passing downs. I'm expecting Davenport to get more use in that pass rush role moving forward if Turner can show his worth versus the run. saintsfan1976 and st thomas like this.
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06-02-2021, 08:41 AM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,547 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport This year's defensive line is already better than last season's.

06-02-2021, 12:10 PM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Si.com/Bob Rose \| Saints Taking a Gamble on Marcus Davenport Originally Posted by AsylumGuido A well known saying in the NFL is that the injury rate is 100%. At some point(s) or another every player will suffer injuries. Some come early in their careers and never appear again. Others remain mostly healthy until late in their careers. Davenport has been forced to deal with injuries each of his three season thus far. That is simply misfortune. As for Cam versus Davenport, Jordan only had one season with over ten sacks in his first six years. That was in his third year in 2013 with 12.5 sacks. He really broke out in year seven having 13, 12, and 15.5 over the next three seasons. Another thing to consider is that Davenport has been used more on running downs in the Saints DE rotation. It appears that Dennis Allen did not trust Hendrickson in that role as he played almost exclusively passing downs. I'm expecting Davenport to get more use in that pass rush role moving forward if Turner can show his worth versus the run. I don't buy the misfortune card, some people are just more injury prone than others, and Sean Payton seems to find them lol jeanpierre and Boston Saint like this.