Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB
 

Taysom Hill was a quarterback when he entered the NFL, but his time with the Saints has seen him fill a lot of roles on offense and special teams.

Drew Brees’ retirement has led to a shift back to his original stomping grounds, however. Hill is competing with Jameis Winston to be the new starting quarterback in New Orleans and said it is “something that I’m not taking lightly and I’m going to give it everything I’ve got.”

Hill thinks his bid will be helped by spending an entire offseason playing quarterback after years of splitting focus among a variety of spots.

“Yeah it’s nice,” Hill said, via Rod Walker of NOLA.com. “Look, at the end of the day and when I first got here and I started doing all this stuff, the answer when I was asked ‘hey, what’s the end goal for you?’ has always been to play quarterback. I’m a quarterback at heart and that’s my mindset. That is really nice when I can tailor all of my offseason program to being as good of a quarterback as I possibly can.”

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He better be ready to switch back to that other role of a weapon. He'll be needed there.

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I do wish him luck, and if he’s the man so be it, but I don’t see him at the helm with a guy that can throw 30 tds on a whim. I don’t think Hill can throw 30 tds in 2 seasons he can run for them though.


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He might be another 30-30 guy. 30 tds 30 fumbles.

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Our team is better with Hill at his current role. Even if he truly is slightly better than Winston we would win more games with Winston at Qb and Hill as a utility player.

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That simple concept seems to escape some people.

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But Stevens just got cut and became available ... :bng:

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With a 90 man roster limit what does that tell you? Where would he fit on the roster? Does anyone have confidence he can fill the Taysom role? He was a shot in the dark like most late round picks.

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He might be...but Winston IS.

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That's true with Brees as QB. No matter who is around Winston...WE KNOW who he is. Winston WILL lose us some games. Hill is all upside AND A LOT OF IT. Remember the guy is still GROWING into the NFL QB position. AFTER WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THIS TEAM --- HE DESERVES --- THE OPPORTUNITY.

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Here's a thought ... The team will most likely lose some games no matter who is at QB... Hill has better skills to get us the tough wins than Winston. And sure, why not ON OCCAISION use Winston as QB and Hill as joker option.
I confess - I'm hoping for Hill to be the next great QB on the scene. Winston already LOST ONE JOB and I don't want to see a repeat here. I've already said on here that if Winston gets the Job, in mho he will lose it by week six or at most week eight. CLEARLY Hill is on the way up and Winston is trying to HANG ON. lol. Just so everyone is clear about MHO.

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Get a grip, son. You are losing it. Hill has done nothing but fill in at a satisfactory level when needed.

As for Winston, yes, we know he won a National Championship in college. We know he won the most prestigious honor for a college player with the Heisman. We know he led the league in passing yards in 2019. We know he was second in the league in TD passes in 2019.

What has Hill accomplished? Why does he deserve the starting role?

I'll give it to you he needs to play. He is a great athlete. Just not at QB.

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Only when it helps him sell his narrative or tell someone that he's right and they're wrong.

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This is an often missed but very important teaching moment. It is all fine and dandy to tell children "you can be anything that you want to". But, by the time adulthood arrives adequate time should have been spent determining what skill sets are present.

I started working during the summer when I was 13 as a welders helper on a pipeline crew. Each summer my job was different and by the time I was 17 I had spent time sandblasting, painting, chipping buckshot, driving dozers and tractors, working on bulldozers and tractors, plowing, bush-hogging, levy repair. general farm work etc... This gave me a wide variety of application experience and an understanding of my natural abilities. Spend a summer on a 25 year old Massey Ferguson and you'll get a feel for your mechanical and trouble shooting talents lol.

Recent generations have pumped out young adults with a head full of goals and dreams but an absolutely empty toolbox or applications understanding outside of a through misunderstanding of our government, adequate complaint and sarcasm prowess, and a decent KDR in BattleField...

In Taysom's head he is an NFL QB, in his toolkit he is not (or it remains to be seen if he is).

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I watch some bowl games and watch whenever I can see my NC State play even though I honestly couldn't name a single player on the roster, either. You really don't have to follow the college game at all to know who wins the Heisman, however.

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First of all, cut back on the caffeine. Second, I guess Kamara and CGM “deserve” a chance at QB too then for all they’ve done for this team, right? Because so far all Hill has shown is that he’s a great athlete who can run, hit, and catch and has a Propensity to fumble when he does so. As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven “deserving’s got nothing to do with it”.

And what does growing into the position mean? Hill is three years older than Winston. Hill gets a chance to grow into the NFL QB position, but Winston doesn’t? You don’t think Green Bay and Saints coaches (plus the entire drafting NFL world) might know a thing or two about evaluating his potential as a starting NFL QB? Since playing at BYU the dude has had every opportunity to win a starting QB job and, guess what?...HE IS GETTING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW! Hill, Winston, Simeon, and Book are all getting the chance to win the starting job. I personally don’t care who it is that does win it but my money is on Winston. Doesn’t mean I’m pulling for him more than anyone else. But he’s clearly demonstrated he posses superior skills to be an NFL QB over the other three at this point.

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Hey man, Hill is the underdog. Never played a down for a rival. Ever. He's come in and played multiple positions and has done well doing it. Even doing things that your boy Winston would scoff and probably refuse to do.

I've been pulling for the underdog for a 35 years (the Saints). Not gonna stop now. And there ain't a damn thing wrong with it.

Anyone pulling for Hill....I say hell yeah! And if he doesn't get the nod at QB, I hope he makes the whole team rethink their rank and file at their position. Because he makes them all look expendable.

Nothing wrong with cheering for a true athlete and a true sportsman.

PS. AG can kiss my ass.

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Sounds good. I’m not pulling against Hill by any means. As I clearly stated I have no preference in who wins the starting QB race. I love Hills game as the gadget guy and think he is most effective in that roll. Just my opinion.

On another note, most of the NFL watching world and half the people on this site have written Winston off after his 30 Int season. The Saints are paying Hill more money, and Hill got the starts in place of Brees last year. I would argue that Winston is the underdog in this scenario. And if you are going to pull against a guy because he played for another team you are going to be rooting against a lot of guys. I think it would be great for the Saints to win the SB with Winston, kick Tampa’s ass, and cram it to Ariens by beating him with the QB that he let go!

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Honestly, whilst Drew retiring makes us worse, I'm excited to see what the team, specifically the offense, can do.

I hope Payton opens up the offense a bit and gets the QB, whoever it is, to push the ball down the field, rather than dump offs or check downs.

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Dude he let him go and got TB. Keeping Crabby Partty and not taking TB would've been absolutely absurd. Lol. 1 season and he delivered a SB.

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Oh, I would have done the same thing. I’m just saying if Payton could take Winston and go on a 5-6 year successful run that would be a thumb in Ariens eye.

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Over the last couple of weeks on NFL Radio topics have included looking into the teams and their prospects for 2021. More than not have said they expect more out of the offense than what we have seen the last couple of years. Injuries to Brees had a lot to do with that, but so did injuries to Thomas and others. Most felt Winston could give more of an explosive dynamic which has been missing. What will be missed is Brees' leadership on and off the field.

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That is where Kamara and Jordan and D Davis can hopefully fill that void. y all accounts it seems like those guys have the character to do so.

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Winston is the Saints future

They started Taysum last year to see what he was made of and to hide Jameis

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May the best man win! I don't have a dog in this fight. When Winston got here I was totally against him playing QB for the Saints. I wanted my man Hill to win it. But upon further reflection I think Winston may be able to fix some of his issues and Payton can fix a few more. If so Winston has the potential to at least be a transitional QB while Payton continues to look for what amounts to Drew's replacement.

Hill excels at his Swiss army knife role and does it better than anybody in the NFL. I like him in that role and if he loses the nation will still enjoy watching him do his thing on game day. May the best man win win!

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Those were the three I was thinking about mainly. The other was Malcolm Jenkins.

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What good is having a Swiss Army knife if you don’t get any qb play? I say give him a chance. If he wins the competition good for him. If not, go back to playing every position in the field. I do however feel at this point I’m their career he is better than JW.

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What has Hill shown in his professional career at QB that makes him better than Winston? Guess which has four career TD's passing and which has 121.

He certainly wasn't anywhere near as good in college as was Winston and played against far inferior opponents.

Hill ------- 37 games, 58.2% completion, 43 passing TD's, 31 picks, 32 rushing TD's
Winston - 27 games, 66.0% completion, 65 passing TD's, 28 picks, 7 rushing TD's

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Who here has said to not give him a chance?

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I remember someone claiming that Taysom broke all of Steve Young's BYU records. While looking at college numbers I discovered that Taysom doesn't own any BYU records. In fact, Steve Young only owns one record himself and that's for season passing percentage at .713. Ty Detmer, John Walsh, and Jim McMahon own most all of the others.

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Yeah. He definitely has a chance. I don't believe it's a good one, but he does have a chance.

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Steve Young

Taysom Hill

Taysom had a couple of years where he didn't play much do to injuries,

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I can’t believe I’m going to say this because normally I think this line of thinking is crap, but It almost makes one wonder if there is a racial component to the way people are writing him off and ignoring his accomplishments.

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The key in my post was “at this point in their career”. There is a reason why he took over last year. Hill was playing better and giving the Saints a better chance to win.

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No, Hill was given the job because he had been in the system for four years and Winston, because of the lack of off-season and pre-season, only had a couple of months or so of practice in the system. He was also told by Payton at the beginning of the season if Brees were to go down the job would be his for those reasons. Now, after a full season followed by a mostly full pre-season they should be on even ground as far that the playbook goes. I believe Winston is still miles ahead on pure ability to play QB, however.

All Hill managed to do when he started was to keep his head above water while facing a horrible Falcons' defense twice, a Denver team with no QB on the roster, and a poor Philly team to which he lost.

Now, if by some miracle he does outperform Winston then he may get the job, but it will cost the Saints he tremendous talents in other parts of the game. Even if he were somehow somewhat better than Winston it would be a net loss for the Saints offense.

That's why I am hoping like hell that Winston beats him out, which I fully expect, and we can field a better team all around.

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That is glaringly obvious, Boston. That line of thinking IS crap, but it is absolutely real. :(

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There are enough black QBs starting and being given a chance in the league for me to accept that as a certainty. The Saints has no problem with Brooks or Blake starting. Winston is just being thrown in the same group with guys like Trubitski, Darnold, and Rosen. What I can’t figure out is why when he’s better than them.