It’s unfortunate and sad...

iceshack149 · 06-06-2021, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I lay that squarely on DA's shoulders.

I love Sean Payton but he and Loomis held on to some subpar coaches for far too long before Allen even returned to New Orleans.
Ironically, in my opinion, the Saints offensively-minded Head Coach is the reason that the defense has struggled all these years.

I'm sure most of us have a disdain for Gregg Williams but Payton was very hands-off when Williams was the Defensive Coordinator and we all got to see the Saints win a Superbowl. Maybe Sean should mind his meat and stick to offense.

Rugby Saint II · 06-06-2021, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I love Sean Payton but he and Loomis held on to some subpar coaches for far too long before Allen even returned to New Orleans.
Ironically, in my opinion, the Saints offensively-minded Head Coach is the reason that the defense has struggled all these years.

I'm sure most of us have a disdain for Gregg Williams but Payton was very hands-off when Williams was the Defensive Coordinator and we all got to see the Saints win a Superbowl. Maybe Sean should mind his meat and stick to offense.

When Sean took his thumb print off the defenses we played better. I guess that he thought if he could beat a great defense then he could build one and that cost us dearly. It was great that Ireland seemed to get control of that situation and give the DC what they needed not what Sean wanted.

I love him but he needs to stay out of the defensive meetings and let the scouts and Ireland do the drafting. It's worked pretty well lately for both sides of the ball.

jeanpierre · 06-06-2021, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I love Sean Payton but he and Loomis held on to some subpar coaches for far too long before Allen even returned to New Orleans.
Ironically, in my opinion, the Saints offensively-minded Head Coach is the reason that the defense has struggled all these years.

I'm sure most of us have a disdain for Gregg Williams but Payton was very hands-off when Williams was the Defensive Coordinator and we all got to see the Saints win a Superbowl. Maybe Sean should mind his meat and stick to offense.

06-06-2021, 12:10 PM	#1
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,407 Blog Entries: 1	Re: It’s unfortunate and sad... Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I lay that squarely on DA's shoulders. I love Sean Payton but he and Loomis held on to some subpar coaches for far too long before Allen even returned to New Orleans. Ironically, in my opinion, the Saints offensively-minded Head Coach is the reason that the defense has struggled all these years. I'm sure most of us have a disdain for Gregg Williams but Payton was very hands-off when Williams was the Defensive Coordinator and we all got to see the Saints win a Superbowl. Maybe Sean should mind his meat and stick to offense. jeanpierre, dizzle88 and K Major like this.

06-06-2021, 12:18 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: It’s unfortunate and sad... Originally Posted by iceshack149 I love Sean Payton but he and Loomis held on to some subpar coaches for far too long before Allen even returned to New Orleans. Ironically, in my opinion, the Saints offensively-minded Head Coach is the reason that the defense has struggled all these years. I'm sure most of us have a disdain for Gregg Williams but Payton was very hands-off when Williams was the Defensive Coordinator and we all got to see the Saints win a Superbowl. Maybe Sean should mind his meat and stick to offense. When Sean took his thumb print off the defenses we played better. I guess that he thought if he could beat a great defense then he could build one and that cost us dearly. It was great that Ireland seemed to get control of that situation and give the DC what they needed not what Sean wanted. I love him but he needs to stay out of the defensive meetings and let the scouts and Ireland do the drafting. It's worked pretty well lately for both sides of the ball.

06-06-2021, 01:39 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: It’s unfortunate and sad... Originally Posted by iceshack149 I love Sean Payton but he and Loomis held on to some subpar coaches for far too long before Allen even returned to New Orleans. Ironically, in my opinion, the Saints offensively-minded Head Coach is the reason that the defense has struggled all these years. I'm sure most of us have a disdain for Gregg Williams but Payton was very hands-off when Williams was the Defensive Coordinator and we all got to see the Saints win a Superbowl. Maybe Sean should mind his meat and stick to offense.