Comeback Player of the Year favorite

SmashMouth · 06-09-2021, 09:53 AM

Saints receiver Michael Thomas isn’t listed, but should be.

On the list for what Charean Williams would call “coming back from sucking” are Colts quarterback Carson Wentz (+900), Panthers quarterback Sam Darnold (+1600), and Saints quarterback Jameis Winston (+3300).

more here for the complete list

Best comment from the article you ask?

Coming back from sucking should include Cam Newton.

Rugby Saint II · 06-09-2021, 02:19 PM

Winston...anybody? It may not be likely but it's very possible. At least that is what most of us are hoping to see happen.

K Major · 06-09-2021, 03:34 PM

Michael Thomas.

jeanpierre · 06-09-2021, 04:25 PM

Lots of the national talking heads throwing around who's the best WR and Thomas isn't even mentioned...

Closest comparison to @CantGuardMike would be Davante Adams, who's Rodgers only legit target...

Only other two in that league of WR would be DeAndre Hopkins and Julio Jones, and am curious to see how Julio and the Titans get on this season...

Boston Saint · 06-09-2021, 04:42 PM

JP...How do you rate Diggs out of curiosity?

jeanpierre · 06-09-2021, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

JP...How do you rate Diggs out of curiosity?

Stephon Diggs? Until he exploded with the Bucks, thought his best moment was that reception which shall not be recollected...

But Diggs and Josh Allen (who I said was the BPA in the 2018 Draft) really have something good going and they just need a legit RB1 and they're right there with the Chiefs...

Top 10 WR1 in the NFL:

Michael Thomas
DeAndre Hopkins
Julio Jones
Devante Adams
Tyreek Hill
Odell Beckham
Robert Woods
Mike Evans
Allen Robinson II
Stephon Diggs

Honorable Mention: Adam Thielen

Why? He may be better with a better QB (Diggs MIN > BUF)

In fact, with that Bills DST, they may be the better team; HC Sean McDermott is a Top 5 NFL HC (Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Bruce Arians, Sean Payton, and McDermott)...

Boston Saint · 06-09-2021, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Stephon Diggs? Until he exploded with the Bucks, thought his best moment was that reception which shall not be recollected...

But Diggs and Josh Allen (who I said was the BPA in the 2018 Draft) really have something good going and they just need a legit RB1 and they're right there with the Chiefs...

Top 10 WR1 in the NFL:

Michael Thomas

DeAndre Hopkins

Julio Jones

Devante Adams

Tyreek Hill

Odell Beckham

Robert Woods

Mike Evans

Allen Robinson II

Stephon Diggs

Honorable Mention: Adam Thielen

Why? He may be better with a better QB (Diggs MIN > BUF)

In fact, with that Bills DST, they may be the better team; HC Sean McDermott is a Top 5 NFL HC (Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Bruce Arians, Sean Payton, and McDermott)...

Thanks for your thoughts! Solid ranking from what my limited perspective gives. Calvin Ridley springs to mind as a solid player as well. What are your thoughts on him ?

jeanpierre · 06-09-2021, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Thanks for your thoughts! Solid ranking from what my limited perspective gives. Calvin Ridley springs to mind as a solid player as well. What are your thoughts on him ?

Curious situation with Julio Jones having a new zip code; Ridley, an elite WRz, will face more CB1s now; but the ATL will also have TE Kyle Pitts...

Sure the ATL is hoping for a WRz/TE1 combination like the KC Chefs have with Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce; KC has had a revolving door at their WRx...

Atlanta will also now have a void at their WRx; this may allow the Saints to put Marshon on an island and rotate the secondary to Ridley's side at the WRz...

Like our chances and considering these factors, certain looks like Ridley is set to regress some this season; so it'll be interesting to see if he responds...

K Major · 06-10-2021, 12:53 PM

^^^ No hate on Falcons draft pick Pitts, however I see him as Vernon Davis 2.0. Has all the measurables, physical traits & tools you can ask for but will it translate at the next level ? … risky but we shall see. Superstardom is no guarantee.

For what it's worth, Kittle and Kelce' were mid rounders and arguably the best in the league at TE.

AsylumGuido · 06-10-2021, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^ No hate on Falcons draft pick Pitts, however I see him as Vernon Davis 2.0. Has all the measurables, physical traits & tools you can ask for but will it translate at the next level ? … risky but we shall see. Superstardom is no guarantee.

For what it's worth, Kittle and Kelce' were mid rounders and arguably the best in the league at TE.

But now teams are looking for that type of TE and with the increased demand they're likely going to be drafted earlier and earlier. That said, you can still find gems later mixed in amongst the coal heap.

06-09-2021, 09:53 AM	#1
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06-09-2021, 02:19 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite Winston...anybody? It may not be likely but it's very possible. At least that is what most of us are hoping to see happen. Boston Saint likes this.

06-09-2021, 03:34 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite Michael Thomas. SmashMouth and jeanpierre like this.

06-09-2021, 04:25 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite Lots of the national talking heads throwing around who's the best WR and Thomas isn't even mentioned... Closest comparison to @CantGuardMike would be Davante Adams, who's Rodgers only legit target... Only other two in that league of WR would be DeAndre Hopkins and Julio Jones, and am curious to see how Julio and the Titans get on this season... SmashMouth likes this.

06-09-2021, 04:42 PM	#5
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06-09-2021, 08:09 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite Originally Posted by Boston Saint JP...How do you rate Diggs out of curiosity? Stephon Diggs? Until he exploded with the Bucks, thought his best moment was that reception which shall not be recollected... But Diggs and Josh Allen (who I said was the BPA in the 2018 Draft) really have something good going and they just need a legit RB1 and they're right there with the Chiefs... Top 10 WR1 in the NFL: Michael Thomas DeAndre Hopkins Julio Jones Devante Adams Tyreek Hill Odell Beckham Robert Woods Mike Evans Allen Robinson II Stephon Diggs Honorable Mention: Adam Thielen Why? He may be better with a better QB (Diggs MIN > BUF) In fact, with that Bills DST, they may be the better team; HC Sean McDermott is a Top 5 NFL HC (Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Bruce Arians, Sean Payton, and McDermott)... jnormand, SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.
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06-09-2021, 09:20 PM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite Originally Posted by jeanpierre Stephon Diggs? Until he exploded with the Bucks, thought his best moment was that reception which shall not be recollected... But Diggs and Josh Allen (who I said was the BPA in the 2018 Draft) really have something good going and they just need a legit RB1 and they're right there with the Chiefs... Top 10 WR1 in the NFL: Michael Thomas DeAndre Hopkins Julio Jones Devante Adams Tyreek Hill Odell Beckham Robert Woods Mike Evans Allen Robinson II Stephon Diggs Honorable Mention: Adam Thielen Why? He may be better with a better QB (Diggs MIN > BUF) In fact, with that Bills DST, they may be the better team; HC Sean McDermott is a Top 5 NFL HC (Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Bruce Arians, Sean Payton, and McDermott)... Thanks for your thoughts! Solid ranking from what my limited perspective gives. Calvin Ridley springs to mind as a solid player as well. What are your thoughts on him ? jeanpierre likes this.

06-09-2021, 11:31 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite Originally Posted by Boston Saint Thanks for your thoughts! Solid ranking from what my limited perspective gives. Calvin Ridley springs to mind as a solid player as well. What are your thoughts on him ? Curious situation with Julio Jones having a new zip code; Ridley, an elite WRz, will face more CB1s now; but the ATL will also have TE Kyle Pitts... Sure the ATL is hoping for a WRz/TE1 combination like the KC Chefs have with Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce; KC has had a revolving door at their WRx... Atlanta will also now have a void at their WRx; this may allow the Saints to put Marshon on an island and rotate the secondary to Ridley's side at the WRz... Like our chances and considering these factors, certain looks like Ridley is set to regress some this season; so it'll be interesting to see if he responds... Boston Saint likes this.
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06-10-2021, 12:53 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite ^^^ No hate on Falcons draft pick Pitts, however I see him as Vernon Davis 2.0. Has all the measurables, physical traits & tools you can ask for but will it translate at the next level ? … risky but we shall see. Superstardom is no guarantee. For what it's worth, Kittle and Kelce' were mid rounders and arguably the best in the league at TE. SmashMouth, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

06-10-2021, 01:16 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Comeback Player of the Year favorite Originally Posted by K Major ^^^ No hate on Falcons draft pick Pitts, however I see him as Vernon Davis 2.0. Has all the measurables, physical traits & tools you can ask for but will it translate at the next level ? … risky but we shall see. Superstardom is no guarantee. For what it's worth, Kittle and Kelce' were mid rounders and arguably the best in the league at TE. But now teams are looking for that type of TE and with the increased demand they're likely going to be drafted earlier and earlier. That said, you can still find gems later mixed in amongst the coal heap.