CB Xavien Howard... should we?

The Dude · 07-18-2021, 12:05 PM

As thin as our defensive line is now that Onyemata is out we need to be more aggressive than ever. Our secondary is going to get torched and if you have to throw Adebo back there it could destroy his confidence right out of the gate.

Boston Saint · 07-18-2021, 12:26 PM

Seems like it’s a rare Occurrence when a team can afford to have two shut down corners being paid accordingly on the roster. While it would certainly help for this season, it would certainly set a course of not having Lattimore and Williams in the future. That, along with the picks/players needed makes it iffy.

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2021, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Seems like it’s a rare Occurrence when a team can afford to have two shut down corners being paid accordingly on the roster. While it would certainly help for this season, it would certainly set a course of not having Lattimore and Williams in the future. That, along with the picks/players needed makes it iffy.

The time to win should always be NOW. There's no way to read the future. We could be decimated by injuries in the coming years. There's no telling.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

ChrisXVI · 07-18-2021, 12:49 PM

We could be in striking distance of Derek Stingley Jr in next year’s draft with a cheaper rookie contract to pair with Lattimore.

Boston Saint · 07-18-2021, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The time to win should always be NOW. There's no way to read the future. We could be decimated by injuries in the coming years. There's no telling.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

True, but I’m not sure making that trade puts the team over the top to win this season more so than a trade for a dominant DT, or WR say. If you are Taking on that contract and draft capital commitment then I would look around a bit first.

And this player you want to trade for sounds like the “two in the bush” to me as it will take multiple draft picks/players to get the bird.

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2021, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

True, but I’m not sure making that trade puts the team over the top to win this season more so than a trade for a dominant DT, or WR say. If you are Taking on that contract and draft capital commitment then I would look around a bit first.

And this player you want to trade for sounds like the “two in the bush” to me as it will take multiple draft picks/players to get the bird.

Not saying I want to trade for him specifically. I'm just saying I'm all in on trading picks now for whomever will help. And if we make the right moves that pick will be later in the round and worth far less.

SmashMouth · 07-18-2021, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We could be in striking distance of Derek Stingley Jr in next year’s draft with a cheaper rookie contract to pair with Lattimore.

... top five pick? The problem there is LSU for SP.

K Major · 07-18-2021, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The time to win should always be NOW. There's no way to read the future.

+1

ChrisXVI · 07-18-2021, 03:51 PM

Why not look to trade for JC Jackson from the Patriots? The Patriots gave him a 2nd round RFA tender.

SmashMouth · 07-18-2021, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Why not look to trade for JC Jackson from the Patriots? The Patriots gave him a 2nd round RFA tender.

If he's RFA, then no trade needed. Maybe that's what SP is waiting for, camp to begin and FA to be cut for more help.

07-18-2021, 12:05 PM	#21
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07-18-2021, 12:26 PM	#22
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Seems like it’s a rare Occurrence when a team can afford to have two shut down corners being paid accordingly on the roster. While it would certainly help for this season, it would certainly set a course of not having Lattimore and Williams in the future. That, along with the picks/players needed makes it iffy. jnormand likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Seems like it’s a rare Occurrence when a team can afford to have two shut down corners being paid accordingly on the roster. While it would certainly help for this season, it would certainly set a course of not having Lattimore and Williams in the future. That, along with the picks/players needed makes it iffy. The time to win should always be NOW. There's no way to read the future. We could be decimated by injuries in the coming years. There's no telling. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. K Major likes this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The time to win should always be NOW. There's no way to read the future. We could be decimated by injuries in the coming years. There's no telling. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. True, but I’m not sure making that trade puts the team over the top to win this season more so than a trade for a dominant DT, or WR say. If you are Taking on that contract and draft capital commitment then I would look around a bit first. And this player you want to trade for sounds like the “two in the bush” to me as it will take multiple draft picks/players to get the bird. jnormand likes this.

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07-18-2021, 12:58 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by Boston Saint True, but I’m not sure making that trade puts the team over the top to win this season more so than a trade for a dominant DT, or WR say. If you are Taking on that contract and draft capital commitment then I would look around a bit first. And this player you want to trade for sounds like the “two in the bush” to me as it will take multiple draft picks/players to get the bird. Not saying I want to trade for him specifically. I'm just saying I'm all in on trading picks now for whomever will help. And if we make the right moves that pick will be later in the round and worth far less. K Major likes this.

07-18-2021, 01:10 PM	#27
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We could be in striking distance of Derek Stingley Jr in next year’s draft with a cheaper rookie contract to pair with Lattimore. ... top five pick? The problem there is LSU for SP. jeanpierre likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The time to win should always be NOW. There's no way to read the future. +1

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07-18-2021, 06:04 PM	#30
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: CB Xavien Howard... should we? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Why not look to trade for JC Jackson from the Patriots? The Patriots gave him a 2nd round RFA tender. If he's RFA, then no trade needed. Maybe that's what SP is waiting for, camp to begin and FA to be cut for more help. Rugby Saint II likes this.