Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

In "honor" of the lame Olympics....

"Sayonara Michael!"

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

The more I’ve thought about this the more it doesn’t make sense.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Yeah. I know. Some people always think they know best and ignore science and the advice from doctors. If two doctors told me I had the flu I would believe them not some idiot on social media who is probably uneducated. I guess he was going to show Payton. He certainly did just that. Now Payton might show him the door.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

"After the season it was decided that he was gonna treat that conservatively. And I think we all had an expectation that [the ankle] would heal and he'd be fine coming into camp this year," Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said Wednesday. "But we get to the minicamp, and obviously it wasn't quite right. So we had to make the call and collectively made the call to have the surgery in June.

"Obviously with hindsight we would've preferred that surgery to be earlier in February or March. But it wasn't. You know, it is what it is. And hopefully he's had a good result so far, and hopefully we'll get him back sooner rather than later."

It sounds like no one was that concerned until minicamp and June was the earliest chance based upon the "wait and see" approach that was agreed upon by all.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

It seems to me that there was a lack of follow-up/track of his progression. I understand completely the idea of letting it heal on it’s own. I don’t follow that it took them this many weeks into the “wait and see” process to realize that the approach was not working. This surgery should likely have been done before now either way.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

You know that for a fact? I haven't seen anywhere that stated he "blew off follow up appointment(s)" with the doctor that was personally monitoring his injury.

Could you please post your source? Do you know this doctor? Any documentation of said appointment(s)? Did the doctor break HIPPA rules discussing the treatment and/or follow up?

Really wanting to see your proof. This could blow the roof off everything if you truly have a scoop!

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

I liked it better before players started growing vaginas.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Loomis and Payton's statements seem honest but still seem to have a bit of CYA in them. I think both the org and Thomas likely each have some portion of the blame for foolishly kicking the can (in this case, the can being Thomas' ankle) down the road.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Yeah, everyone putting the blame solely on Thomas is making me role my eyes at them. Although there a quite a few who put a political spin on everything here. A whole lotta "pot meet kettle" going on.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

I think things went sideways last season for MT ... First the injury, then frustration over the healing timeline then last but not least attitude and behavior. SP called time out ... don't think MT ever got over it and knowing SP reputation ... rivers run deep.

Hard for me to believe that a professional athlete of MT stature would not realize is ankle was still not progressing on schedule and take the initative and responsibility to notify the team and physician of his ankle's status.

Can not say with certainty where the team was during this offseason decision making process. ML was very diplomatic on the issue in his presser, SP not so much. Could the concerns and opinions on the timing and recommendation for surgery been discussed by the staff, Doctor and MT but then the protocol not followed. Something didn't happen that should have happen ... SP's comments kinda point that direction.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

No. You said he "blew off follow up appointment(s)" with the doctor that was personally monitoring his injury. My question is, unless you are involved in HIPPA compliance violations how would you know that there were scheduled appointments to "blow off". The fact that there was no follow-up until pre-camp corroborates nothing. Where is the proof of scheduled appointments being "blown off"?

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

I’m wondering if mapcow’s map is geographical, political, or topographical.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Fictional.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Have to agree with looking for a trade partner. We are no longer a pass first team with drew gone and there is no reason to pay a wr 20 million a year.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

I believe in Payton's offense we will continue to pass as much as the defense allows. Besides, we have a QB that lead the entire NFL in passing yards two years ago.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Kinda like you spreading the rumor Russell Wilson food poison or covid related matter.....

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

coming from a supposed individual that lives entirely in fantasy land....

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Kinda like you spreading the rumor Russell Wilson food poison or covid related matter.....:dunce:

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

coming from a supposed individual that lives it's life entirely in fantasy land....:bng:

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

all the above...baby.... all the above:biggun:

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

Are you actually that stupid?

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

You sure seem to be..... you said it. About Russell Wilson and food poisoning and all.... Got the string to prove it too:bugeyes:

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

You have serious issues, dude. You need help.

Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

yeah... my issue is you and your impish attitude:dunce:

do yourself a favor and ignore me.... like you said you would. phalic:bng:

told ya Thomas was gone:p