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ChrisXVI 07-23-2021 09:38 AM
Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Ankle surgery late in the offseason. Could be out 4 months

iceshack149 07-23-2021 09:42 AM
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ChrisXVI 07-23-2021 09:42 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
That explains Jameis and Tre’Quan spending all summer together practicing. Just fire me into the sun lol.

The Dude 07-23-2021 09:47 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
We’re ****ed.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 09:51 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Looks like we get to see Calloway become a star early. We'll be sitting at 6-0 and getting both Thomas and Onyemata back at the same time. It's going to be an epic season.

:bng:

jeanpierre 07-23-2021 09:54 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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K Major 07-23-2021 09:55 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Why wait so long before having off season surgery Mike??

Halo 07-23-2021 10:01 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...alm_statue.jpg

K Major 07-23-2021 10:03 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Gotta get on those phones and propose a trade.

Relying on a 2nd year player and 3quan isn’t gonna be enough.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 10:11 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923584)
Gotta get on those phones and propose a trade.

Relying on a 2nd year player and 3quan isn’t gonna be enough.
It may have to be.

halloween 65 07-23-2021 10:12 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
I really think Calloway steps up.

ChrisXVI 07-23-2021 10:13 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 

This is from JANUARY. Why did it take 6 months?!

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 10:14 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 923591)
I really think Calloway steps up.
Same here. We may not miss a beat.

jeanpierre 07-23-2021 10:18 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923579)
Why wait so long before having off season surgery Mike??
While attending Tulane, worked at the hospital; one of the services that worked the same floor as our unit was orthopedics...

During that time working while in school, can tell you this is common in borderline decisons for Sx, and the Docs will try to see if the patient can heal sans Sx...

Kinda of the First Do No Harm philosophy that is implied in the Hippocratic Oath; Sx brings the risk of infection, delaying, even complicating, recovery...

The unrelated parallels (other than being New Orleans Saints) to the rookie breakout and subsequent injuries as Marques Colston incurred though are troublesome...

Not so worried about WRx as Calloway and Tre'Quan should be able to provide enough production; but the WRz is now that much more important...

Hoping the rookie Baker can take the opportunity for the slot targets as the WRs...

The opportunity for those targets is now Colonel Trautman...

halloween 65 07-23-2021 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923593)
Same here. We may not miss a beat.
I'm really pulling for Baker, great size and weight with really good hands. My dark horse so to speak.

halloween 65 07-23-2021 10:23 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923594)
While attending Tulane, worked at the hospital; one of the services that worked the same floor as our unit was orthopedics...

During that time working while in school, can tell you this is common in borderline decisons for Sx, and the Docs will try to see if the patient can heal sans Sx...

Kinda of the First Do No Harm philosophy that is implied in the Hippocratic Oath; Sx brings the risk of infection, delaying, even complicating, recovery...

The unrelated parallels (other than being New Orleans Saints) to the rookie breakout and subsequent injuries as Marques Colston incurred though are troublesome...

Not so worried about WRx as Calloway and Tre'Quan should be able to provide enough production; but the WRz is now that much more important...

Hoping the rookie Baker can take the opportunity for the slot targets as the WRs...

The opportunity for those targets is now Colonel Trautman...
That's exactly what happened with my knee, wait....wait....wait.... surgury.

K Major 07-23-2021 10:25 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923590)
It may have to be.
I doubt that. Tre and Callaway have yet to prove that they can stay healthy. Will Sean allow these guys (K Baker as well) to compete? Absolutely but they will start bringing in veteran guys at some point for random workouts.

Emmanuel and Jared are no longer catching passes in NO.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 10:31 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 923592)
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...59395516276738

This is from JANUARY. Why did it take 6 months?!
Elective surgeries were impossible to schedule for the beginning few months of the year. I know that for certain here in Louisiana. I suspect it was the same elsewhere. A guy in my Sunday School class had to wait from February until late May to have knee surgery. My niece works for an orthopedic clinic and they didn't do anything other than emergency surgery for months, as well. Not saying this is the definite reason, but it may have been a factor.

Then again, he may have hoped it would heal on its own.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 10:37 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923599)
I doubt that. Tre and Callaway have yet to prove that they can stay healthy. Will Sean allow these guys (K Baker as well) to compete? Absolutely but they will start bringing in veteran guys at some point for random workouts.

Emmanuel and Jared are no longer catching passes in NO.
I don't doubt they'll be shopping around. It just may not be possible to bring one in now. Given that Thomas is expected to return they may not want to bring in a veteran replacement until after the beginning of the season to avoid the full season salary. Regardless, I think this team is going to do some special things. Winning is as much a mindset as a roster. These players are used to winning on a regular basis. I just don't see them folding their tents and shutting it down.

Halo 07-23-2021 10:45 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923600)
Elective surgeries were impossible to schedule for the beginning few months of the year. I know that for certain here in Louisiana. I suspect it was the same elsewhere. A guy in my Sunday School class had to wait from February until late May to have knee surgery. My niece works for an orthopedic clinic and they didn't do anything other than emergency surgery for months, as well. Not saying this is the definite reason, but it may have been a factor.

Then again, he may have hoped it would heal on its own.
I don't know, this is BIG money. Sports ortho doctors do surgery ASAP with what NFL players pay. I'm more inclined to believe the 2nd point that the team doctors saw improvement and that it would heal itself and the results were not what they expected, so they recommended surgery.

SmashMouth 07-23-2021 11:27 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923594)
While attending Tulane, worked at the hospital; one of the services that worked the same floor as our unit was orthopedics...

During that time working while in school, can tell you this is common in borderline decisons for Sx, and the Docs will try to see if the patient can heal sans Sx...

Kinda of the First Do No Harm philosophy that is implied in the Hippocratic Oath; Sx brings the risk of infection, delaying, even complicating, recovery...

The unrelated parallels (other than being New Orleans Saints) to the rookie breakout and subsequent injuries as Marques Colston incurred though are troublesome...

Not so worried about WRx as Calloway and Tre'Quan should be able to provide enough production; but the WRz is now that much more important...

Hoping the rookie Baker can take the opportunity for the slot targets as the WRs...

The opportunity for those targets is now Colonel Trautman...
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 923597)
That's exactly what happened with my knee, wait....wait....wait.... surgury.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923600)
Elective surgeries were impossible to schedule for the beginning few months of the year. I know that for certain here in Louisiana. I suspect it was the same elsewhere. A guy in my Sunday School class had to wait from February until late May to have knee surgery. My niece works for an orthopedic clinic and they didn't do anything other than emergency surgery for months, as well. Not saying this is the definite reason, but it may have been a factor.

Then again, he may have hoped it would heal on its own.
All of this is fine, except in the case of a professional football player. Drew Brees didn't wait for his arm injury to heal before electing surgery. If that's your living, you get her done. Even if you wait to heal, which he had already done DURING the season, he'd know by SB time it was inevitable. He just lost invaluable time and likely cost the team in letting them down.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 11:42 AM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 923607)
All of this is fine, except in the case of a professional football player. Drew Brees didn't wait for his arm injury to heal before electing surgery. If that's your living, you get her done. Even if you wait to heal, which he had already done DURING the season, he'd know by SB time it was inevitable. He just lost invaluable time and likely cost the team in letting them down.
You are assuming the decision to wait was all his. As JP pointed out, a good ortho surgeon will avoid surgery at all cost. Their priority is for the well-being of their patient, not the convenience of the team or the wishes of the fans.

The Dude 07-23-2021 01:11 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Gotta have that garbage time TD in garbage time in game one against the Bucs. Totally worth it.

SmashMouth 07-23-2021 02:02 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 923612)
You are assuming the decision to wait was all his. As JP pointed out, a good ortho surgeon will avoid surgery at all cost. Their priority is for the well-being of their patient, not the convenience of the team or the wishes of the fans.
https://i.giphy.com/media/jH6s9HMMi53dSdI73r/200.gif

Kamara he isn't, MT with his recovery from injury. Kamara is about the only one able to overcome what surgery forces others to correct. MT knew before the SB. That's FIVE months wasted... and on that big fat contract whose ink is still relatively fresh, we'll see just how many wins in the fall.

jeanpierre 07-23-2021 02:33 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923599)
I doubt that. Tre and Callaway have yet to prove that they can stay healthy. Will Sean allow these guys (K Baker as well) to compete? Absolutely but they will start bringing in veteran guys at some point for random workouts.

Emmanuel and Jared are no longer catching passes in NO.
Now we got two guys that can get the ball to Sanders - No Sanders. Wow...

K Major 07-23-2021 02:35 PM
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So no David O, No Mike Thomas and possibly no Lattimore as we enter week 1 :o.

That’s gonna be a tough out vs Green Bay.

jeanpierre 07-23-2021 03:30 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923630)
So no David O, No Mike Thomas and possibly no Lattimore as we enter week 1 :o.

That’s gonna be a tough out vs Green Bay.
“Those first four weeks before the bye will be important for this team, I think. And that’s an obvious statement, and yet, certainly for this team.”

- Sean Payton, 2016

Source: ESPN/Mike Triplett - Sean Payton: Fast start so important for Saints that even preseason matters

Funny how history keeps repeating itself - JP

David O is six (6) weeks; CantGuardMike likely six (6) to eight (8) weeks before full strength; Marshon Lattimore - WTF knows...

K Major 07-23-2021 03:48 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923636)
“Those first four weeks before the bye will be important for this team, I think. And that’s an obvious statement, and yet, certainly for this team.”

David O is six (6) weeks; CantGuardMike likely six (6) to eight (8) weeks before full strength; Marshon Lattimore - WTF knows...
In a “pass happy” league, the uncertainty with Latt’s suspension and a hole left by Janoris, cornerback position is still the biggest need right now.

That pass rush of Davenport, Cam J, Peyton and Tanoh really needs to bring it with authority :biggun:

neugey 07-23-2021 04:32 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
I'm having serious concerns about the medical staff handling this issue. We're getting close to the one-year anniversary of this injury. How is a high-ankle sprain, even a bad one, taking on this big of a timetable?!

jeanpierre 07-23-2021 04:34 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923638)
In a “pass happy” league, the uncertainty with Latt’s suspension and a hole left by Janoris, cornerback position is still the biggest need right now.

That pass rush of Davenport, Cam J, Peyton and Tanoh really needs to bring it with authority :biggun:
I'd say WRz, because right now, we've only got one proven tooth in the bite of that offense right now...

As posted on the FA thread, I'd go out and get Golden Tate, at least you'd have an offense that can keep you in it...

Not afraid to play rookies, and with Adebo replacing Jenkins, you have the same DB group you've had the last two seasons...

K Major 07-23-2021 04:49 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 923641)
I'm having serious concerns about the medical staff handling this issue. We're getting close to the one-year anniversary of this injury. How is a high-ankle sprain, even a bad one, taking on this big of a timetable?!
Remember he had surgery right after the Tampa game.

This is another surgery unfortunately.

neugey 07-23-2021 05:05 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923645)
Remember he had surgery right after the Tampa game.

This is another surgery unfortunately.

If there was that much risk, he shouldn't have been cleared to play in the post-season. This has become a high-ankle injury with a Tommy John surgery time table. I don't know how this makes any sense. I fear whoever treated Thomas' ankle totally pooped the bed.


In other news, Dak is reportedly fully healthy, and that injury occurred at least a month after MT's. Go figure.

K Major 07-23-2021 05:22 PM
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If I had to take a guess, Mike wanted to lay it all on the line for Drew, even while injured.

subguy 07-23-2021 05:30 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
The hits just keep on coming. You definitely have to give Hill the nod. Winston won't have a chance without the #1 receiver.

jeanpierre 07-23-2021 05:55 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923638)
In a “pass happy” league, the uncertainty with Latt’s suspension and a hole left by Janoris, cornerback position is still the biggest need right now.

That pass rush of Davenport, Cam J, Peyton and Tanoh really needs to bring it with authority :biggun:
Granderson is the guy that really steps forward this year...

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 06:20 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923630)
So no David O, No Mike Thomas and possibly no Lattimore as we enter week 1 :o.

That’s gonna be a tough out vs Green Bay.
With no league MVP Aaron Rodgers on our turf. They have obstacles, too.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 06:27 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 923649)
If I had to take a guess, Mike wanted to lay it all on the line for Drew, even while injured.
He said said that explicitly. He said the only reason he played through the injury was for Drew.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 06:27 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923653)
Granderson is the guy that really steps forward this year...
Exactly. I think so, too.

AsylumGuido 07-23-2021 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 923650)
The hits just keep on coming. You definitely have to give Hill the nod. Winston won't have a chance without the #1 receiver.
Without our #1 receiver we need Hill at receiver more than ever. Why waste Winston on the bench doing nothing when he can be at QB and Hill out there catching balls, running the ball, making tackles, returning kicks, blocking, and coming in for the occasional wildcat. That would be the best use of our talent.

SmashMouth 07-23-2021 06:51 PM
Re: Michael Thomas Out for Start of Season
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 923642)
I'd say WRz, because right now, we've only got one proven tooth in the bite of that offense right now...

As posted on the FA thread, I'd go out and get Golden Tate, at least you'd have an offense that can keep you in it...

Not afraid to play rookies, and with Adebo replacing Jenkins, you have the same DB group you've had the last two seasons...
Are you available, JP?


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